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Thrown Weapons

Has anyone attempted to make use of the new thrown weapon skill system? I am curious to see some logs of the attack, it's effectiveness, usefulness and whether this was something warriors find usefull and much needed.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

I rolled a rogue using thrown weapons that night that it came out. Me and another friend did some experimenting and we think that Dex and Reflex add to the AS and strength is what determines how big of a weapon you can throw effectivly. The only dilema that we encountered is if you train in ambushing or not. I know with rogues that ambushing gives them a certain amount of crit ranking but I know that is also using the AMBUSH command. We tried to find an archer and ask if they trained in ambush since archers don't use the AMBUSH verb either. The only other thing that you should keep in mind is that you'll need brawling to get any parry DS or edged weapons because thrown weapons won't give any parry DS when holding a weapon. I'll try to get some logs out earlier. All i can say is that it's fun as crap. I carried two short swords i found in kobolds and never used more than two throws to kill a rat. reg
Hmm... that could be correct, thrown weapons working like archery. When you throw a weapon at a specific body part, does it connect often or go off target?

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

OK here is one fry, I had full leather, a wooden shield, and one short sword. Nothing ever took more that two throws to kill but i only had one weapon. I didn't loose any weapons but i believe you do if you miss. Also for some reason the aimed attack wasn't working. Can't figure that one out. Welp here it is.

>look[Abandoned Sewer]
The trickle of sludge begins to move a bit faster, as the slope steepens. The small pipes in the walls grow fewer, but no less filthy. You can feel a touch of moving air, perhaps a bit fresher than that which you've grown used to breathing. You also see a short sword, a giant rat, a giant rat and a giant rat.
Obvious exits: north, south.
>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +56 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +38 = +21
A clean miss.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>get swordYou already have that.
>A giant rat scurries out of a nearby shadow!
>stance offA giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +56 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +44 = +27
A clean miss.
>You are now in an offensive stance.
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +83 = +173
... and hit for 42 points of damage!
Skull cracks in several places.
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +39 = +43
A clean miss.
>search ratYou search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
get sword>The sword is out of your reach.
>get swordA giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +33 = +37
A clean miss.
>The sword is out of your reach.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>hurl swordYou cannot attack the short sword.
>Aniqua just arrived.
hurl rat>With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +65 = +155
... and hit for 32 points of damage!
Strike connects with shoulder blade!
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>Aniqua just went south.
>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +75 = +79
A clean miss.
>search ratYou search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>Aniqua just arrived.
>Aniqua just went north.
>get swordAniqua just arrived.
>The sword is out of your reach.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>A giant rat scampers in!
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +48 = +138
... and hit for 14 points of damage!
Weak slash to the giant rat's lower back!
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>look[Abandoned Sewer]
The trickle of sludge begins to move a bit faster, as the slope steepens. The small pipes in the walls grow fewer, but no less filthy. You can feel a touch of moving air, perhaps a bit fresher than that which you've grown used to breathing. You also see a short sword, a giant rat, a giant rat and a giant rat.
Also in the room: Aniqua
Obvious exits: north, south.
>Aniqua just went north.
>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +3 = +7
A clean miss.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>hideYou fail to slip into hiding.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
>A giant rat squeaks as it slowly backs away.

A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +91 = +95
A clean miss.
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +86 = +176
... and hit for 38 points of damage!
Shield arm mangled horribly.
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>search ratYou search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>Aon just arrived.
get sword>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +9 = +13
A clean miss.
>You pick up a short sword.
>Aon just went south.
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +53 = +143
... and hit for 23 points of damage!
Feint to the left goes astray as the giant rat dodges!
You scratch my back...
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>Aon just arrived.
>Aon just went north.
A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +55 = +59
A clean miss.
>search ratYou search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>hurl ratThat's not going to do much. Try using a weapon.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +81 = +171
... and hit for 31 points of damage!
Strike pierces forearm!
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>search ratYou search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.

[Abandoned Sewer]
The trickle of sludge begins to move a bit faster, as the slope steepens. The small pipes in the walls grow fewer, but no less filthy. You can feel a touch of moving air, perhaps a bit fresher than that which you've grown used to breathing. You also see a short sword.
Obvious exits: north, south.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
n>n
[Abandoned Sewer]
There is a small bit of sludgy water pouring out of one of the many small pipes. It has collected into a dark slimy looking pool here, with a small trickle of filth oozing on down the tunnel. There is just enough room to pick your way around it as you continue on deeper into the earth.
Obvious exits: north, south.
>
[Abandoned Sewer]
The openings of small pipes are visible through the muck on the walls. To judge from the smell, they used to deliver raw sewage into this main tunnel. The tunnel continues to descend, as the darkness and humidity seem to close in around you. You also see a giant rat.
Obvious exits: north, south.
>A giant rat scampers in!
A nearby shadow seems to shift, revealing a giant rat!
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +49 = +139
... and hit for 17 points of damage!
Minor puncture to the abdomen.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: -25 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +17 = -9
A clean miss.
get sword>The sword is out of your reach.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +72 = +162
... and hit for 31 points of damage!
Strong slash to throat nicks a few blood vessels.
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +68 = +72
A clean miss.
A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +43 = +47
A clean miss.
>search ratYou search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +11 = +101
... and hit for 1 point of damage!
Weak slash across chest!
Slightly less painful than heartburn.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +34 = +38
A clean miss.
>look[Abandoned Sewer]
The openings of small pipes are visible through the muck on the walls. To judge from the smell, they used to deliver raw sewage into this main tunnel. The tunnel continues to descend, as the darkness and humidity seem to close in around you. You also see a short sword, a giant rat and a giant rat.
Obvious exits: north, south.
>A giant rat scampers in!
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>hideRoundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +66 = +156
... and hit for 25 points of damage!
Large gash to the left arm, several muscles torn.
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
You are unable to remain hidden!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>A giant rat cocks its head, squeaking fiercely!
A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +5 = +9
A clean miss.
>search ratYou search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>hurl rat headA giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +12 = +16
A clean miss.
A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +40 = +44
A clean miss.
>I could not find what you were referring to.
>help hurlHURL the is action verb to invoke thrown weapon combat. Any weapon type can be thrown with variable effectiveness based upon weapon characteristics. If the weapon impacts the target, it may glance off or become lodged upon the target. If the weapon misses the target, then it may fall to the ground nearby and may be picked up after a certain time delay or it may become lost in the surrounding environ. Take care that you don't throw away your most prized possessions.
Your strenth bonus affects the size of the weapon you may be able to effectively throw. Heavy weapons will tend to do more damage than lighter weighted ones. However, lighter weapons are easier to aim when thrown.

USAGE:
HURL <target> - throws held weapon at specified target.
HURL <target> <body location> - attack specified targeted body location.
>hurl rat right armI do not understand, please rephrase that.
>Nouse just arrived.
>look[Abandoned Sewer]
The openings of small pipes are visible through the muck on the walls. To judge from the smell, they used to deliver raw sewage into this main tunnel. The tunnel continues to descend, as the darkness and humidity seem to close in around you. You also see a giant rat and a giant rat.
Also in the room: Nouse
Obvious exits: north, south.
>Nouse just went south.
>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +64 = +68
A clean miss.
A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +84 = +88
A clean miss.
>hurl rat headI could not find what you were referring to.
>Vetum just arrived.
Vetum just went south.
>hideRoundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
>hurl rat headI could not find what you were referring to.
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +79 = +169
... and hit for 41 points of damage!
Well placed strike shatters a rib!
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
You are unable to remain hidden!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +35 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +81 = +85
A clean miss.
>search ratYou search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>lookVetum just arrived.
>[Abandoned Sewer]
The openings of small pipes are visible through the muck on the walls. To judge from the smell, they used to deliver raw sewage into this main tunnel. The tunnel continues to descend, as the darkness and humidity seem to close in around you. You also see a short sword and a giant rat.
Also in the room: Vetum
Obvious exits: north, south.
>Vetum just went north.
>Nouse just arrived.
>Nouse just went north.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordThe sword is out of your reach.
>get swordYou pick up a short sword.
>hurl ratWith a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a short sword into flight.
You throw a short sword at a giant rat!
AS: +40 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +83 = +173
... and hit for 47 points of damage!
Crossing slash to chest catches the giant rat's attention!
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a short sword past its target to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>search ratYou search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>nn


Name: Segratius Tevalius Race: Sylvankind Profession: Rogue (shown as: Rogue)
Gender: Male Age: 26 Expr: 10769 Level: 1
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 48 .... -1
Dexterity (DE): 87 .... 23
Discipline (DI): 85 .... 12
Logic (LO): 55 .... 2
Intelligence (IN): 52 .... 1
Strength (ST): 83 .... 16
Reflexes (RE): 68 .... 14
Charisma (CH): 48 .... 4
Wisdom (WI): 50 .... 0
Aura (AU): 96 .... 28
Mana: 3 Silver: 0

Segratius (at level 1), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Bonus Rank
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Armor Use : 10 [2]
Shield Use : 20 [4]
Combat Maneuvers : 20 [4]
Thrown Weapons : 20 [4]
Climbing : 5 [1]
Swimming : 5 [1]
Stalking & Hiding : 20 [4]
Perception : 10 [2]
Ambush : 20 [4]
Physical Training : 10 [2]
Picking Pockets : 20 [4]
Mental Training Points : 3

Only thing i regret is not tripling in hiding and doubling brawling but I suppose I can start tripling hiding next train and brawling in a few trains. Otherwise I think i did pretty well. Tripling hiding is important i think because with enough you'll never need to come out of hiding to attack.

Avalor reg

I have been trying to roll up a thrown using rogue for a bunch of hours now,since i saw Nindy's post. I assume ambushing with thrown weapons will be alot like archery. If your hidden and use 'hurl rat left leg' It should be an ambush with the added crit ranks.

My question is do they have thrown weapon stores for things like throwing daggers? Can you use a shield if your throwing small weapons like daggers? Does CM training help offensivly?

It would make sense to me if your throwing daggers to be able to use a shield and if your thowing battle axes to have to use two hands.

-The ever curious Thorauk reg

Nifty Avalor! You can use a shield then right? You wrote you had one.

I have my training i want but i cant decide between edged or brawling. I see benifits for both but i think im leaning toward edged. Only reason being i probably will be with the weapon in my hand more often than throwing it. Altho who knows maybe i can squeeze in singling brawling and have the best of both worlds reg

Yeah i carry a shield. With those stats and skills rats can't touch me and kobolds can just barely nick me when they get a roll above 90. I am going to start brawling for parry DS because I assume that you will be able to throw blunts as well as edged weapons. I'm not sure about the CM affecting the AS but it does affect DS and manuvers. For that matter alone i train it. Also i did some more testing, as you can see with a normal short sword from a kobold i have a 40 AS with a 40 AVD. I bought a broadsword from the weapon shop and i had a 40 AS with a 34 AVD. For some reason though I'm not able to aim. I tried hidden and not hidden using hurl rat head and hurl rat right leg but both times it said "I cannot find what you are referring to" or something like that. If anyone could help me out there i'd really appreciate it. Thanks

Avalor reg

I haven't had a chance to confirm this but I have been told that CM will not raise AS.

Avalor reg