I figured as playing a warrior that doesn't want to have to rely on anyone for anything, I'd have to try out forging. From everything I've read we are supposed to be naturals at it. After eight hours through the middle of the night I'd have to say(with my being a half-elf and having a high discipline with any other stats reflecting guildwork being average) that it is relatively easy(a hundred and eighteen "aha's" in one night) and seems that in the long run, will keep me interested as a warrior a little bit more than guild skills. Sure it's not much of a trade off to relocate gaming hours to, but, after I've power hunted to eighty trains and appear in my hundreds(when stat developement isn't as important as character developement), I'd probably rather rattle around the Zul Logoth forges getting dirty looks from dwarves then be popping boxes or aspiring to hunt the rift. Sure, I'm still making crude hammers and probably will be for another month, but tedious as it is, I like it. Opinions and reports of progress anyone? reg