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How much armor does a mage need?

Well here is a curious debate. In 13 trainings I will be wearing chain armor(9% hindrance). Kranar has a huge headstart on me. But we are going to chain.

What is everyones thoughts on this?

edge reg

From a RP point of view I think mages and sorcs in any armor look silly. Not to mention one wearing chain.

From a mechanics point of view, I would sack the extra 2% hinderance for chain.

Buckwheet reg

Lohlem says something about Dead Mages and armor, but I can't remember what it was.

I also don't know if it still applies, given the types of critter attacks GS has now compared with the year he made the statement.

Something to check into though.

R
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<< From a RP point of view I think mages and sorcs in any armor look silly. Not to mention one wearing chain. >>

Heh, see this is totally different than from my point of view.

My point of view is that wizards and sorcerers who are as weak as a twig and snap when they are touched look silly and pathetic.

A wizard who can stand up against good hard hits and live, now that's far from silly.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

I didn't say weak as a twig.

I said wearing heavy armor.

Tenser in D&D never took a hit, neither did Gandalf in Lord of the Rings.

Yet they didn't wear heavy armor, but were not frail and sick as Raistlin in Dragonlance.

If you wanted to say you were a paladin, bladesinger, cleric, or magic rogue heavy armor is good for look and RP.

Buckwheet reg

Well, you can alter the armor to be more RP like. Chainmail mesh robes or something along those lines. To appear more wizard like. But give you the Chainmail protection.

Anyone got the Damage factors for Chainmail vs Brig?

edge reg

How much ranks of armor ya need fer chain, and is it full body coverage? I lost me site fer some ol guide reg
Ok, just a quick interjection: The only reason Raistlin was so "weak" and "frail" was due to the sacrifice he made at his Test. Thats it, other mages of the DragonLance saga were fully able to fight well, if they wished, but I believe by the council they were forced to use daggers? I forget
Either way, didn't matter, Raistlin tore up any mage out there. reg
Yup that was why he was weak. However not once in there did I read that the mages were wearing "billowing chain armor." Even the super strong and big mage...uhm what was his name...man! Argh! He was the big dark skinned mage who used his magic to be a sailor.

Anyway.

Buckwheet
PS. Fizban was a frail old man in ROBES. And he was a god.
reg

All fine and dandy, except GS doesn't support ANY of this.

In Gemstone a mage is the weakest profession defensive wise. TD is pathetic, DS is pathetic, and we hunt in offensive stance.

So although all these nice mages in other fantasy worlds may be mighty and superior, ask them to take a trip to Elanthia for the weekend and watch them suffer.

The strongest mage in GS is a weak warrior.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

Exactly my point.

From a RP standpoint I don't like mages in heavy armor. (See first post)

From a mechanics point of view. The heavier the armor the better. (See first post)

From a players point of view I would sack the training points for the extra armor and 2% hinderance. (See first post)

Buckwheet

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The cookie maker opens his fortune cookie. It says "Live chickens are better than dead ducks."

There is the question of form versus function. If you want your wizard to look like a wizard, then there are limitations to what he can do due to his equipment. If you want your wizard to be able to hunt the big critters, then you might want to consider equipping the character with whatever it takes to make sure that he returns home to spend his loot and cuddle with his honey. ::"Oh, sorry honey. No diamonds today. How about some pretty costume jewelry? What's that?? The couch??"::

I personally took my lead from the armor hindrance chart and decided that I wanted my wizard to top out with double leathers. Of course, that means that I need to be careful of what I hunt.

I think it is a question of what you want your character to do. Sure, the typical wizard probably wouldn't be wearing heavy duty armor, but you might want your wizard to be able to walk through the valley of death and not fear anything because he is the baddest, meanest wizard in the valley. And that will usually mean that he have the hardware.

Good luck with your decision. Looking forward to seeing you in that valley.


Gandmor reg

I recommend 110 ranks in armor. reg