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But.. What I want to create now is something I havent run across before.. At least not at high lvls. My idea, is an common one. To make a war-wizard who is more physical than normal. But doesn't leave out any of the magical essence of being a wizard. 80% of the war-wizards I have seen are singled in spells. Usually giants for the strength benefit. I wanted to have a fairly regular wizard, singled in shield, edged, doubled in spells and spell aiming. As well as having all the other usual skills in some amount like scroll reading, MIU etc.. But I also want to be able to wear brigindine armor, and be FULLY singled in CM. not 0.5x or 1x with 1x in spells. AS I was creating my new wizard I really felt it was possible to do this. Right now Im just getting over a period where I was not hunting or creating anything.. I just sat in the game and bummed around. Merchanting or dueling.. Whatever caught my fancy. Heres the wizard I started about half a year ago.. Hes been rerolled numerous times since then, and this will be the last or second to last time he is rerolled. If this doesnt work I will skip the CM and go for a fairly normal wizard.

If I could get opinions, and insight into this training regimen I would be deeply grateful. I don't want to waste my time just to get to lvl 60 or higher and see that.. It just isnt going to work.

Race: Half-Elven Profession: Wizard (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 35 Expr: 43631 Level: 4
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 88 .... 19
Dexterity (DE): 54 .... 7
Discipline (DI): 62 .... 1
Logic (LO): 51 .... 0
Intelligence (IN): 50 .... 0
Strength (ST): 87 .... 18
Reflexes (RE): 58 .... 14
Charisma (CH): 80 .... 20
Wisdom (WI): 96 .... 23
Aura (AU): 72 .... 11
Mana: 6 Silver: 0

(at level 4), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Bonus Rank
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Shield Use : 25 [5]
Combat Maneuvers : 25 [5]
Edged Weapons : 25 [5]
Perception : 25 [5]
Spell Aiming : 50 [10]
Physical Training : 10 [2]
Mental Training Points : 10

Your spell lists:
Major Elemental...3
Minor Elemental...1
Wizard Circle.....4

As you can see, he is already missing 2 spells. He also has none of the other skills like scrolls, MIU, mana share..Things I was planning on getting later.

I was wondering if anyone had a helpful program that could calulate the training points I would get at each level.. Not just the stats. I could do it all one lvl at a time and figure it all out. But it took me a long long time to do the same thing for my rogue. If there is a program.. I think it would make my life and everyone elses who does this kinda stuff alot easier.

Any help would be appreciated. reg

Amerlise's site has a stat growth checker that will tell you TPs as the level grow.

I posted the link somewhere on these boards...hehe. Good luck in finding it.

edge reg

Sonic reg

He trained in physical training every 5 trainings. 1 spell every level. 1 stalking/hiding. 1 Shield. 1 Armor. I believe he was getting an ambushing training every other level or every 3 levels.

I'll try to find it and post it. reg

Every stat was placed for maximum stat growth. Although I am not getting as many TPs as I need right now, I will be getting much more later in life.. Instead of having stats stuck at 50 my whole life, they will all be high Maxing before I hit the Lvl Cap.

Heres a look at his stats every 20 trains starting at 20..

At 20 trains, your stats will be:
Constitution (CO): 91 .... 20
Dexterity (DE): 62 .... 11
Discipline (DI): 69 .... 4
Logic (LO): 64 .... 7
Intelligence (IN): 63 .... 6
Strength (ST): 89 .... 19
Reflexes (RE): 66 .... 18
Charisma (CH): 83 .... 21
Wisdom (WI): 98 .... 24
Aura (AU): 80 .... 15
( Total = 765 ) 45/45 TP's

At 40 trains, your stats will be:
Constitution (CO): 93 .... 21
Dexterity (DE): 72 .... 16
Discipline (DI): 76 .... 8
Logic (LO): 74 .... 12
Intelligence (IN): 73 .... 11
Strength (ST): 92 .... 21
Reflexes (RE): 73 .... 21
Charisma (CH): 86 .... 23
Wisdom (WI): 100 .... 25
Aura (AU): 90 .... 20
( Total = 829 ) 49/49 TP's

At 60 trains, your stats will be:
Constitution (CO): 95 .... 22
Dexterity (DE): 82 .... 21
Discipline (DI): 83 .... 11
Logic (LO): 84 .... 17
Intelligence (IN): 83 .... 16
Strength (ST): 95 .... 22
Reflexes (RE): 80 .... 25
Charisma (CH): 89 .... 24
Wisdom (WI): 100 .... 25
Aura (AU): 97 .... 23
( Total = 888 ) 53/53 TP's

At 80 trains, your stats will be:
Constitution (CO): 97 .... 23
Dexterity (DE): 88 .... 24
Discipline (DI): 89 .... 14
Logic (LO): 92 .... 21
Intelligence (IN): 92 .... 21
Strength (ST): 99 .... 24
Reflexes (RE): 86 .... 28
Charisma (CH): 92 .... 26
Wisdom (WI): 100 .... 25
Aura (AU): 100 .... 25
( Total = 935 ) 55/56 TP's

At 100 trains, your stats will be:
Constitution (CO): 100 .... 25
Dexterity (DE): 95 .... 27
Discipline (DI): 96 .... 18
Logic (LO): 99 .... 24
Intelligence (IN): 99 .... 24
Strength (ST): 100 .... 25
Reflexes (RE): 92 .... 31
Charisma (CH): 95 .... 27
Wisdom (WI): 100 .... 25
Aura (AU): 100 .... 25
( Total = 976 ) 58/58 TP's

At 120 trains, your stats will be:
Constitution (CO): 100 .... 25
Dexterity (DE): 100 .... 30
Discipline (DI): 100 .... 20
Logic (LO): 100 .... 25
Intelligence (IN): 100 .... 25
Strength (ST): 100 .... 25
Reflexes (RE): 97 .... 33
Charisma (CH): 98 .... 29
Wisdom (WI): 100 .... 25
Aura (AU): 100 .... 25
( Total = 995 ) 59/59 TP's

At 136 trains, your stats will be:
Constitution (CO): 100 .... 25
Dexterity (DE): 100 .... 30
Discipline (DI): 100 .... 20
Logic (LO): 100 .... 25
Intelligence (IN): 100 .... 25
Strength (ST): 100 .... 25
Reflexes (RE): 100 .... 35
Charisma (CH): 100 .... 30
Wisdom (WI): 100 .... 25
Aura (AU): 100 .... 25
( Total = 1000 ) 60/60 TP's

Also, Alfador. Do you know any wizards who have this type of training plan and who would be willing to talk to me? I would love to get in contact with anyone who has a lvled wizard with this training pattern.

Omni, the training pattern Suvar had was not something that interested me. I have seen his character.. and wasn't really impressed. I think as a wizard doubling in spells is mandatory, and tripling wouldnt be a bad idea. Also hiding/ambushing isnt something I plan to do with a hunting wizard. Just wouldnt be any good at all in my opinion.

Thanks for the help guys! I really appreciate it and I still look forward to more insight. reg

I didn't max out my mana share until 50. That is no big deal.

Get armor use. I am personally going to chain so I can survive a hit. If you are going to swing in the rift you will need to be able to survive a hit.

double in spells. I think I have only 3 triples and can hunt effectively with 409 and 415 in the rift. I been hunting that way for so long I can't tell you what my bolt is anymore. The plane I hunt also. I can't kill anything with my bolt.

the CvA for higher armor is going to really help in the rift to. Right now I get a 50% chance of being warded with dissipation up and brig on. I even use a td shield once in a while.

Maybe EN will have something that a mage can swing at.

edge

reg

Sonic reg

What I was looking for was an opinion on whether he is possible, and if possible, whether it is worth it to try and do it this way. Edge pointed out a site with a program that should help, but I haven't looked for that site yet. Hopefully that program should make it easier for me to come up with an idea about whether this guy can fully single in Cm, fully double in spells and spell aiming etc.. And still get the small skills that are a very necessary part of being a wizard.

I guess it basically comes down to:

Do I try it this way?

Or... Do I scrap CM, and try to triple in spells or get more physical skills. Or go a totally different way. What makes the best wizard? reg

quote:

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Originally posted by AestheticDeath:
What makes the best wizard?

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The best wizard is someone you enjoy playing.

reg