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chain vs 903..water

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +217 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +6 = +221
... and hits for 37 points of damage!
Nasty blow to your neck!
You are stunned for 3 rounds!

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Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +25 = +245
... and hits for 41 points of damage!
Nasty blow to your left leg!
You are stunned for 1 rounds!

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +55 = +275
... and hits for 47 points of damage!
Strong blow to your right arm breaks it!
You are stunned for 3 rounds!

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +53 = +273
... and hits for 46 points of damage!
Nasty blow to head leaves you dazed!
You are stunned for 4 rounds!

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +55 = +275
... and hits for 47 points of damage!
Nasty blow to your right leg!
You are stunned for 1 rounds!

Heavy crit padded brig now..............

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +217 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +6 = +221
... and hits for 37 points of damage!
Nasty blow to your neck!
You are stunned for 3 rounds!

Tillmen gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +12 = +204
... and hits for 38 points of damage!
Nasty blow to your left leg!
You are stunned for 1 rounds!

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +39 = +231
... and hits for 46 points of damage!
Good blow to your left leg!
You are stunned for 3 rounds!

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +21 = +213
... and hits for 40 points of damage!
Nasty blow to your back!
You are stunned for 1 rounds!

Tillmen gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +1 = +193
... and hits for 22 points of damage!
Stubs one of the fingers on your left hand.

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a stream of water at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +53 = +245
... and hits for 42 points of damage!
Good blow to your right arm!
You are stunned for 2 rounds!

acid vs heavy crit padded brig

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a hissing stream of acid at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +20 = +218
... and hits for 36 points of damage!
Acid raises angry red welts on the arm!
You are stunned for 1 rounds!

Tillmen gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a hissing stream of acid at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +13 = +211
... and hits for 36 points of damage!
Acid burns to the midsection leave a lasting impression.

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a hissing stream of acid at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +41 = +239
... and hits for 41 points of damage!
Excruciating pain as back of hand is dissolved!
You are stunned for 2 rounds!

chain vs acid

* Edgeleaf just bit the dust!
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Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a hissing stream of acid at you!
AS: +222 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +65 = +291
... and hits for 117 points of damage!
Acid causing a gaping hole in the back can't be healthy!
The buzz of thoughts in your mind subsides.
You feel your extra strength departing.

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a hissing stream of acid at you!
AS: +141 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +8 = +153
... and hits for 29 points of damage!
Acid works its way into the skin. Nasty burn.

* Edgeleaf just bit the dust!
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Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a hissing stream of acid at you!
AS: +182 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +84 = +270
... and hits for 95 points of damage!
Acid burns a hole in the neck causing a fatal fluid leak!
You feel your extra strength departing.

lightning in chain...

Tillmen gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a powerful lightning bolt at you!
AS: +101 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +48 + d100 roll: +92 = +208
... and hits for 112 points of damage!
Hideously bright electrical bolt sends left arm into another universe. Happy traveling.
You are stunned for 12 rounds!

heavy crit padded brig vs lightning

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a powerful lightning bolt at you!
AS: +101 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +43 = +130
... and hits for 20 points of damage!
Light shock to head. That stings!

Tillmen gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a powerful lightning bolt at you!
AS: +141 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +35 = +162
... and hits for 46 points of damage!
Arcing strand of electricity jolts across your back. Feels creepy.
You are stunned for 2 rounds!

Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a powerful lightning bolt at you!
AS: +141 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +24 = +151
... and hits for 41 points of damage!
Visible wisps of electricity shoot up left leg. Youch!
You are stunned for 1 rounds!

* Edgeleaf just bit the dust!
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Tillmen gestures at you.
Tillmen hurls a powerful lightning bolt at you!
AS: +141 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +69 = +196
... and hits for 68 points of damage!
Terrible shock to neck fuses larynx shut. A painful death follows.

It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

brig vs swinging

Burzmalli swings a worn steel hatchet at you!
AS: +169 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +69 = +217
... and hits for 47 points of damage!
Solid blow gouges a chunk out of your right leg.
You are stunned for 1 rounds!
The scintillating light surrounding the hatchet fades some.

Burzmalli swings a worn steel hatchet at you!
AS: +225 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +44 = +248
... and hits for 57 points of damage!
Deep, bloody slash to your right thigh!
You are knocked to the ground!
You are stunned for 3 rounds!

** As you are hit, Burzmalli's hatchet emits a searing bolt of lightning! **
... 3 points of damage!
Light shock to left arm. That stings!\

Burzmalli swings a worn steel hatchet at you!
AS: +225 vs DS: +53 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +71 = +275
... and hits for 92 points of damage!
Hard slash to your side opens your spleen!
You are stunned for 6 rounds!
The scintillating light surrounding the hatchet fades some.

chain vs swing

Burzmalli swings a worn steel hatchet at you!
AS: +225 vs DS: +51 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +31 = +246
... and hits for 55 points of damage!
Your right leg is mangled horribly.
You are knocked to the ground!
You are stunned for 5 rounds!
The scintillating light surrounding the hatchet fades some.

Burzmalli swings a worn steel hatchet at you!
AS: +225 vs DS: +51 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +29 = +244
... and hits for 52 points of damage!
Left kneecap smashed into pulp.
You are knocked to the ground!
You are stunned for 3 rounds!
The scintillating light surrounding the hatchet fades some.
Darksnake slings a veniom-bound rolaren tower shield off from over his shoulde

Burzmalli swings a worn steel hatchet at you!
AS: +225 vs DS: +51 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +8 = +223
... and hits for 45 points of damage!
Deep slash to your right forearm!
You are stunned for 3 rounds!
The scintillating light surrounding the hatchet fades some.

* Edgeleaf just bit the dust!
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Burzmalli swings a worn steel hatchet at you!
AS: +225 vs DS: +51 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +30 = +245
... and hits for 50 points of damage!
Blow to your chest causes your heart to skip a beat.
You are stunned for 1 rounds!

** As you are hit, Burzmalli's hatchet emits a searing bolt of lightning! **
... 30 points of damage!
Electric blast goes right to the heart! You'll miss that steady beat.

Burzmalli swings a worn steel hatchet at you!
AS: +260 vs DS: +59 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +46 = +288
... and hits for 70 points of damage!
Hard blow breaks your femur!
You are knocked to the ground!
You are stunned for 6 rounds!
The scintillating light surrounding the hatchet fades some.

Burzmalli swings a worn steel hatchet at you!
AS: +260 vs DS: +59 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +10 = +252
... and hits for 56 points of damage!
Whoosh! Several ribs driven into your lungs.
You are stunned for 3 rounds!
The scintillating light surrounding the hatchet fades some.

I think no padding chain is as good as heavy crit padded brig. But crits or CM attacks will tear you up. Also acid raped me in the chain. But any type of crit padding in a torso set of chain will be so much better the brig with heavy padding.

What do you think?

edge reg

Sonic reg

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Originally posted by Alfador:
From those shots alone, I'd recommend the brig. It'd be nice if you could get a good amount of manuever attack demonstrations such as boil, thorn, etc. Perhaps then the chain will really shine.

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Unless things have changed since I last checked, the chain will be horrendus compared to the brig in manuever attacks.

When I last looked at it - this may not be the way it is now, but i haven't heard of a change yet - manuever attacks still computed damage by the old armor mechanics. That is, if you're wearing torso chain, your torso is covered in chain, and everything else in uncovered. Instead, everything else now works like brig, rather than skin.

My warrior would wear an augmented breastplate when he hunted in Varunar. If a roa'ther burrowed his leg, it'd get knocked clean off and a huge stun. Head or neck, he'd be dead. If it burrowed his chest/arm, i'd get an average hit, maybe a medium.

I'd love to hear any evidance one way or the other, however.

-Gnomad, here and there. reg

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N'cares do tackle and swing jeddart-axes, heavy crit weighted falchions. I have to wrack just to come close to filling my mind. So I am always low on spirit. So I kinda think the chain would be best for me.

The CvA is a huge help to. Wizards get torn up by CS attacks in the rift. I found some td bonus chain and a got a td shield. So it may help me a bunch in the long run. Now I need a td weapon!

edge reg

The problem with torso chain is the rarity of padding. Maybe a dozen padded torso chains exist in the lands. But if for some reason you could train to hauberk(110 ranks). You would be a god. heh.

I am the only wizard that has trained for chain so far. But I wear it on Plane 4 in the rift and if I ever hunt in EN I will wear it. 9% hindrance isnt anything when you got 360 mana.

edge reg

It would make sense too since you can move more freely your extremeties.

I know for a fact that Leather breastplate is more manueverable than double leather. I am pretty sure that same test holds true for even metal breastplate compared to chain hauberk.

Whoever said hauberk, boy that would be huge magic hindrance for a wizard to train off and even then it would be hard to cast with natural resistance.

Lastly, I don't think people are taking into accoutn the FIX to the armor bug. No longer does torso only provide the protection it used to on other parts of the body.

Hiway reg

Maneuver penalties are actually very SMALL. The difference between someone totally naked and someone fully trained for full plate and wearing it are too insignificant.

In regards to how armor helps against maneuver attacks... unless the armor is padded it don't do squat. Heavily crit padded robes are better against boil earth than full plate. Heavily padded full plate is better than nonpadded robes.

Now the catch is that padded partial armor will only provide the crit padding against maneuver attacks on parts that they cover. This USED to be recognized as a bug, but Ophion has said that he now sees this as a feature (how awkward that one day it's a bug and the next it's a feature).

So heavily padded brig will protect better than heavily padded chain against maneuver attacks only because you get the heavy padding all over your body wearing brig, and only heavy padding on your torso in chain.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

You will dodge more manuevers with light leather compared to plate no matter what the training.

Hiway reg

They are actually tied together in one roll, this much is known.

The roll that determines IF you get hit also determines how hard you get hit, kind of like being attacked, your AS determines if you hit and how hard you hit.

In regards to maneuver penalty, the more of a maneuver penalty the armor gives, the higher this hidden end roll will be. But the penalty is so small it's insignificant and not worth considering when deciding what armor to wear.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

Brig has a CvA of +8 and Chain has a -6 CvA....that is 14 better td for chain. Now 14 td is life or death to me. EN has proven that to me beyond a doubt.

But sorry to say. I am not the first trained for it. Demiloa has been fully trained for a while now.

edge reg

Based on the training I have now I will be fully trained for brig at 61, 30 ranks, and I can single from 62 on. That means at 110 I would only have 78 ranks of armor. If there is no way for me to be fully trained for it I will stop armor at 61 and put those points towards CM or something else.

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Anticor Rifling, Giantman Wizard reg

Sonic reg

50 ranks for chain, I think I can do that gonna be a year or three though but hell I am patient, thank you.

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Anticor Rifling, Giantman Wizard reg