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Well I got DAoC and it runs OKAY on my pentium 3 500 mhz, but I was thinking of getting a new processor and\or motherboard. Does anyone out there know what kinda processor will fit in my current motherboard? I have no idea what kind it is, only that it came stock with my Dell Dimension XPS T500 that I got like 3-4 years ago. Any help is appreciated greatly.


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I would love to help ya but that doesn't tell me a single thing, hehe.

An to the reason I responded... Who are you in DAOC and what server/realm did you pick? I would love to get a gemstone group together over there.... reg

You don't want to get a new motherboard. I mean if you get a new motherboard you may as well get a new computer since new motherboard means you need a new processor to go with the motherboard.

If your computer is 3-4 years old, it most likely will only support up to the PIII 733 processors. Problem is Intel doesn't make them anymore and so they are hard to find.

If you want both a new motherboard and new processor, then you can find yourself a PIV motherboard and get whatever processor you want, all the PIVs are great processors and in my opinion much more superior than AMD processors.

But maybe all you actually need is a better video card. In newer games, the video card can make up for a slower processor, infact a video card is more important than the processor in most cases.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

Well I have a TNT2 Model 64 32mb... and it still kinda choppy. Connection is on a T1 (i think? It's an ethernet LAN around campus). I really just think I need a new processor... a new motherboard and processor will run around like 250 bucks, right?

rht

Guinevere server, Albion. Maliku.

reg

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Originally posted by Makkah:
Well I have a TNT2 Model 64 32mb... and it still kinda choppy. Connection is on a T1 (i think? It's an ethernet LAN around campus). I really just think I need a new processor... a new motherboard and processor will run around like 250 bucks, right?

rht

Guinevere server, Albion. Maliku.



It really depends on what motherboard and cpu that you want to get. A couple of places to check are motherboards.com & tccomputers.com. I've bought from both of them and have no complaints.

If you don't have it already an AGP video card will help out as well. reg

I have talked to a couple guys about that...Even though I just got a new mothboard and stuff I still might suggest this.

Computers run at top speed for about 3 years. I believe the website was dartek.com They have tons of refurbish computers that are pretty descent and very well priced. Yah might just want to look into that for the price.

The other thing I may suggest to you is that you put more ram in you computer. Always has played a major role in speed. I have a celeron 400 mhz with 190 ram and my baby runs like the day I bought her. She is only a 6 gig hard drive and she is actually the brand Emachines. I will always speak highly about them because they are a cheaper brand but my computer has lasted. I have had her for around 3 and half years now. 300 mp3's later.

Lord Deprav reg

Computers slow down if they run on copper tipped RAM, which is basically all RAM with the exception of DDR.

DDR RAM has gold tips, and lasts a life time, so even 20 years down the road your computer will run just as fast as the day you bought it. Processors don't wear out unless they've been overclocked, and even if they are overclocked they generally still last a life time.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

Your computer isnt that old, that particular dell has the Intel SE440bx motherboard.

If it has the version 2 of that motherboard, you can put up to a PIII 850 in it, which it probably does, becuase intel themselves says the version 1 isnt supported passed 450 mhz.

but, the quick check is to go into bios and look at the number on the main screen, should be 4S4EB2X0.86A. something , if its version 2.

If its version one its 4S4EB0X1.86A.

If its version 2, might do you some good to upgrade.

Pentium III are still expensive now, probably run you about 120-140 bucks , even on ebay-- but worth it in my opinion, because its so easy to install and would help alot.

Also, pc 133 ram is really cheap, so id get more of that if your upgrading. And a graphics card

'lood


reg

Awesome kelood, now all i need to know is what the hell is BIOS? Heh.

Thanks for the help!


rht reg

Err...if you sincerely don't know what the BIOS is, I would recommend paying someone to upgrade for ya instead of doing it yourself.

Just like I wouldn't try to drive a car without knowing what an ignition switch is - it's no reflection on your intelligence... just some things people should leave to others until they have an idea of what to do.

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reg

I think he was joking, he did capitalize it properly afterall, even though i neglected to.

But, couldnt hurt as a general FYI. Bios is a semi-permanently coded part of your computer that handles the core configurations of your computer, the basic hard drives to the real geeky memory address and shadowing and such... fun stuff. Its also where you set your system password.

To enter bios, 80% of the time you press del ete right after the memory check when you first boot your computer, other common ways are f2, ctrl-shift-esc ctrl-shift-del, ctrl-alt-esc. It usualy tells you which key to press, though if you have proprietary bioses like compaq or acer, who like to put their logo instead of useful information, you will either have to try a bunch of combinations, or sometimes tab/esc will get you to where you can see something. Dells usually pretty smart about it and gives you some info.

'lood

reg

Haven't had to reconfig my own BIOS yet but I'm pretty sure with a Compaq (what I have) it's shift F8 or something like that.

reg

<< Err...if you sincerely don't know what the BIOS is, I would recommend paying someone to upgrade for ya instead of doing it yourself. >>

Most people don't know what BIOS is or its function, even those who fix computers. I mean even Kelood got it confused, but it's a common error to confuse CMOS with BIOS since they work together (what you're referring to with the DEL at startup is CMOS Setup which is a tiny 64 byte RAM segment, BIOS can not be altered or reconfigured cause there's nothing to reconfig) Thing is it's not important to know what it is.

If you need to know what BIOS is in a nutshell... it's just the ROM chip that PCs use to make sure that the computer can bootup properly. If you know where the ROM chip is, that's all you need to know cause all BIOS is the software stored on the ROM chip.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard

[This message has been edited by LordKranar (edited 03-09-2002).] reg

Okay, ANYWAYS...

I checked my BIOS, yes BIOS, and was kinda confused with the results...

4S4EB2X0.10A.011.P03

Now that first string was the one you stressed as having a varying term, yet my second segment is the one that's different. What exactly would the difference between 10A and 86A be?

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Also, just cracked the computer open and checked the motherboard or whatever. Not sure what it means, but the plug-in spot said Slot 1 which I'm assuming is older than the "socket 423" and "socket 370" and all that. But there's some more info.

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Okay, last post for now, I promise... but I been looking around and I found a Slot-1 to 370 converter which would allow me to use a 1.1 ghz Celeron processor in my Slot 1 motherboard... anyone know anything bout that? Sounds too good to be true.

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A+ Certification Test Prep by Coriolis:

Bios: Built in SOFTWARE allows the computer to boot itself and determines what a computer can do...blah blah...A ROM chip contains BIOS.

CMOS:
A semiconducter...blah.. holds date time, and system setup parameters.

'lood
reg

Ok, about the Celery 1.1 ghz. Intels tested certification is only up to 433mhz on the Celerys, and 850 on the pIII, my guess is because they put the board out in 98, and their wasnt anything faster.

Professional opinion would tell you it voids your motherboard warranty and you shouldn't do it. Chances are though, as long as the chip has a 100 mhz bus, it will work.

I'd get a good CPU fan if you try it though, and make sure you got good circulation in that case...

get the newest flash BIOS upgrade (intel updated processor support in the newest release)

If your board handles the clock multiples and voltage, you should be fine with the adapter card.

Though, seriously, i'd doubt youd notice any difference between the pIII 850 and a celeron 1.1 , PIII might even be faster (and pIII is tested)
so, pick up a pIII, and if all you can find is 370 slots, the adapter card will work fine.

'lood
reg