The Players Corner Archive

Warden, if you decide to change the CS in like a week from now because you realize there is a bug or something I will go nuts! Yes... this did take a lot of testing to determine but the program is finished.

If when using this program you notice an error or find a problem with its result please respond in this folder indicating what the problem is so I can re-evaluate any of the factors that the program uses to determine CS.

Also if you would like the program to do something else just reply telling me what you want it to do/test.

Thanks go to Tsoran, Edgeleaf, Zanagan, Gnomad, Imraith, Sakarri, Smo, Arcaeris, Alex, Spawned and everyone else who sent me their info, spell ranks and CS!

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard

[This message has been edited by LordKranar (edited 03-13-2001).] reg

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LEVEL: 37
BASE: 141 (WI = 30)
Minor Spirit:
Ranks: 12
Major Spirit:
Ranks: 25
Cleric
Ranks: 46

MINOR S CAST: 170 (yours is off)
MAJOR S CAST: 179 (yours is off)
CLERIC CAST: 197 (nailed)

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Jinsem
LEVEL: 32
BASE: 121
WI: 25
MINOR S: 17
MAJOR S: 3
CLERIC: 78

MINOR S CAST: ?
MAJOR S CAST: ?
CLERIC CAST: 188 (yours is off) reg

Level 45
Wisdom bonus of 25
20 MnS ranks
26 ranger ranks
CS: 189 (correct)

Nailed my cleric's cleric/MjS CS, but not his MnS CS.

Level 14
Wisdom bonus of 22
14 cleric ranks
13 MjS ranks
3 MnS ranks
Cleric CS: 83 (correct)
MjS CS: 83 (correct)
MnS CS: 74 (program says 75)

It misses on my sorcerer's MnS CS, hits on the sorcerer CS depending on how you round (down.)

Level 5
Aura bonus of 25
Wisdom bonus of 24
6 sorcerer ranks
5 MnE ranks
3 MnS ranks
Sorcerer CS: 51 (correct)
MnS CS: 47 (program says 49)

My friend's cleric:

Level 38
Wisdom bonus of 25
26 cleric ranks
32 MnS ranks
25 MjS ranks
Cleric CS: 182 (correct)
MjS CS: 181 (program says 182)
MnS CS: 187 (program says 188)

A friend's sorcerer:

Level 21
Wisdom bonus of 30
Aura bonus of 35
24 sorcerer ranks
3 MnS ranks
20 MnE ranks
Sorcerer CS: 126 (works when I round up the Aura/Wisdom bonus)
MnS CS: 108 (correct)
MnE CS: 125 (correct)

Hope this helps. Seems like most of the discrepencies can be perhaps accounted for by rounding... except maybe the anomoly with my sorcerer's MnS CS.
Thanks for making this effort. reg

First off I'd like to say that for sorcerers your stat bonus is (AU + WI) / 2 rounded UP! Do not round down, your CS will be off.

The algorythm used to calculate CS is based on a series of factors. Each spell sphere has its own factor and depending on spells known compared to your level you will have a different factor. The problem that I did was I didn't have enough samples to test out all 36 factors that the program uses so I took a rough estimate of what they would be to the nearest decimal place.

With this new info though I can now determine what the factor is to perfect accuracy however I am still having some problems with the first cleric that is posted. Something about that CS just doesn't seem right at all.

In anycase, most of the factors work, but there are some which are still only to 1 decimal place and on those you may notice a -+2 difference between the actual value and the calculated value.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

Level 95

Your spell lists:
Major Spirit......25
Minor Spirit......50
Cleric Circle.....203
Use SPELL ALL to view detailed list of spells.

Major is 388 (wrong also, 387 is what it says)
Minor is 405 (wrong, says 403)
Clerical is 482 (is wrong now, says 481)

Seems Warden tweaked it on you again...lol

Here goes my 105 wizard stats, see if it works for him...

Your spell lists:
Major Elemental...50
Minor Elemental...120
Wizard Circle.....50
Use SPELL ALL to view detailed list of spells.

Minor 550 (544 is what it said)
Major 495 (490 is what it said)
Wizard 495 (490 is what is said)

Damn, seems they changed it a bit, but not much.

edge
reg

-=Insomniac=- reg

Dang I knew it! When I was working with the algorythm initially one problem I was encountering with peoples CS for a certain range was what kind of rounding to use! For one type of rounding it would work with one group of peoples CS but give +/- 2 for the other group, and viceversa! I was unable to find any reason for this...

Hopefully with new more accurate data I can determine once and for all what the algorythm is, and what kind of rounding to use.

Kelood has been doing some nice progress in taking my factors (now up to 36 of them) and looking for a relationship to determine a formula. Although I still am skeptical that CS is based on an actual A + B = C type formula rather than a more complicated process (a.k.a algorythm) it's not out of the question that a formula is being used to calculate CS.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg