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What do you have to do to get noticed?

I wasn't sure whether to post this in the platinum folder or here since it occured over there, but it's a roleplaying issue so I'll just leave it here because I'm sure it's happened in prime as well.

This is not about looking for roleplaying. I'm the type of person who will try to make it happen for myself. I roleplay with the hopes and prayers that someone will notice and at least make a point of acknowledging it. I'm not saying everyone needs to roleplay with me 100% of the time either, but if I'm making an exuberant amount of effort to be noticed, indulge me at least and talk to me.

I'll mention what happened with my new character since chances are I won't be playing in there anymore, and if I do, it'll probably be hunting and playing on my lonesome and then all of a sudden some lord will walk in on them and they'll wonder who he is and then ::gasps:: that's when they'll interact with me.

I created a human ranger. I had him walk into the park completely drunk, completely naked, holding his backpack in his hand, wondering why his arm was so heavy. Maybe my decision to make such a radical character around these people was too much, but in my naive little mind, I figured there was no way people would ignore a naked drunk man in the middle of a busy park. I was wrong. Oh sure I got some hellos and welcomes and a couple of giggles and "I hope you have some pants in there" but that's it. I also got a "you must have taken your backpack off since you arrive with it on." Gee thanks. ::smirks:: Yeah, should have been happy with just that huh? Only one girl interacted with me, dismissed me because I was a drunk and that was the extent of it. Even when I tried to get some talk from her about what it is I did, she wouldn't answer me. Just dismiss me.

After that, nothing more. Everyone was too busy picking boxes, spelling each other up, or talking about who knows to notice the drunk man passed out on the ground clutching a flask of ale in his hands muttering stuff about large women. I guess they figured I was a script sleeper. ::grins:: Now I'm just curious to see if I make the exact same character do the exact same thing in prime to see what kind of response I get.

I really don't want a critique on my character (although I'm betting thousands that I'll get it anyway ) I would just like to know what kinds of characters you tend to roleplay with, and do you factor in age? Do you bother if he's fresh off the farm because you don't want to waste your time on a newbie that won't be around in a few weeks? I'm just wondering how long you have to linger around before you get an AHA from a fellow player.

Let the flames begin! I have a great fireplace you can aim it at. ::ducks::

[This message has been edited by CrystalTears (edited 12-05-2001).] reg

shut up, that RP sucks
this is a medieval town, being naked was blasphemy and if it weren't for GMs you'd of been killed. The next best thing? ignore your obvious attempt at roleplaying.

Maybe you should warm up with some EQ or Diablo for your roleplaying. (minimal skill required)
-Zentalin reg

I don't play plat. Can't see spending the equivalent of a new game every month on gemstone.

They might have figured for some reason that you were new. Heavy backpack/full leather/pouch means just that much of the time.

Other than that, with the small population there, I don't know what to say. Oh, wait. Got one thing. Go RP haven! reg

I frankly don't understand the thread, but will comment on roleplaying in a graphic based game. I think it is a much more difficult process to do. In text there is so much leeway and creativity allowed. In a visual game people see what you look like already and see the motions you can do or not.

Hiway reg

Even tho many people jokingly call wearing nothing special as being naked, you are wearing nothing special, not wearing nothing.

Therefore, they should not have noticed you as being naked. If you want to RP a pervert, then I am sure there are other games out there that will go along with you.

Aerienne reg

I remember trying to explain that once to a bunch of people... till I got tired of it and let the children run amuck with it.

It even was posted officially that you are wearing nothing special by GM's means you wear standard clothing for the era.

Even adults can't seem to understand that concept.

Hiway reg

Wow thanks. That's pretty much what I figured I'd hear. I'm so glad I didn't take this to the official boards.

I wasn't playing a pervert. I was trying to convey a drunk man who didn't know better. Yes I said naked, wearing nothing special but I wasn't saying down to the skin naked. I wasn't even making gestures to anyone saying I was naked in the first place. I understand what wearing nothing special means. The GMs watch things very carefully. If I was really playing someone so perverse and unaccepting, I'm sure I would have heard about it. I was referring more to the reactions I got (or barely got). Perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned the nakedness at all and stuck with just the drunk man bit. That's my fault.

But yeah, you're right. With all the people playing cannibals, faeries, people who turn into snakes or bats, wings fluttering, who am I to say I'm a roleplayer. ::shrugs::

[This message has been edited by CrystalTears (edited 12-06-2001).] reg

Wow.

I'm with you, CrystalTears. And some of these comments attacking your RP are..unbelievable.

Some of my greatest times when helping a newcomer, is to dress them. Granted, you don't arrive naked, per se, but you have no pants ..no shoes etc. You have your standard issued armor and nothing more. I have a ball picking on their bare legs, making them blush and giving them pants and what-not.

I dunno, but don't let the folks here discourage you. I thought that was a clever way to 'explain' how a full grown man suddenly finds himself in a strange town where he owns practically nothing. Look who you are getting the comments from, and take them for what they are... nothing.

As you read these boards, you'll see from quite a few of the posters here that RP to them is nothing more than simply not speaking OOC. And that OOC to them means just not talking about RL. Such a shame, but don't give up! reg

Someone has a bad case of the board envy...

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I got no dukes. reg

As far as I'm concerned, you done good! You just didn't have the right audience, unfortunately.

Like Siara said...keep trying. There are plenty of folks who'll appreciate your efforts and give you some return on your roleplaying investment. You just have to find them. reg

I'm sickened. How can you people blast her for roleplaying? I bet had she been playing a drunken, 'naked' woman that this would be a whole different story. This is a role playing game for crying out loud. Why when someone goes out looking for RP they get slammed? Keep it up Crystaltears!!!

Gokkem reg

quote:
Originally posted by Specto:
They might have figured for some reason that you were new. Heavy backpack/full leather/pouch means just that much of the time.

By the way, I just wanted to point out that the second I was out of the mangler, I removed everything and put it in my backpack and held it in my hands so that I would be seen with nothing special on for a reason. A newbie wouldn't have gone through that trouble to make a new character. So telling me the obvious that I come to the lands that way was just telling me they weren't paying attention to my roleplaying and wanted to share their mechanics knowledge.

After all the actions, movements and talking I did, you wouldn't have thought I was a "newbie" if you were paying attention to the roleplaying. This was the basis of my argument.

Thanks to everyone else who knew where I was going with this and didn't find it offensive. reg

My comment wasn't even remotely on topic to the person's concern, just a tangent on when characters do not wear items.

Hiway-clearing reg

Considering the fact that you emphasized the nakedness of this person,

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I had him walk into the park completely drunk, completely naked, holding his backpack in his hand, wondering why his arm was so heavy. Maybe my decision to make such a radical character around these people was too much, but in my naive little mind, I figured there was no way people would ignore a naked drunk man in the middle of a busy park.

I would not have responded to you. This isn't roleplay I would encourage or participate in. I know this isn't what you intended or you wouldn't have posted this here, but quite honestly, I've had enough bad experiences with freaks in the game, that I as a player would ignore you, and my character would just think you were touched in the head and not try to encourage your troubles.


While I applaud you for promoting Roleplaying, this is the one scenario that has me extremely sensitive. I'm willing to RP with most anyone, unless I question their motives, or I am focused on my own little world and the RP isn't directed at me.

Sometimes, I am in a mood to just hunt or talk and interact with my friends. If I have my own RP scene going on, I'm not usually going to interupt it to go off on a different tangent.

Age has nothing to do with it. And I never encourage people who wander up to my table, just because that really does irritate me. And I try to avoid the busy places, because I miss too much when the screen is scrolling too fast from all of the spells and whines.

I often go to the Linden tree and worship there. It can be a good place to RP, because others go there too, and it's easy to start an interaction there. And if not, it is just good for her soul to take the time to kneel and contemplate there.

Aerienne
reg

quote:
Originally posted by CrystalTears:
I would just like to know what kinds of characters you tend to roleplay with, and do you factor in age? Do you bother if he's fresh off the farm because you don't want to waste your time on a newbie that won't be around in a few weeks?

Generally I'll RP with anyone, as long as it's interesting and not too off-the-wall. Sorry, but my character would probably take only a passing interest in your drunk.

A big part of finding someone to RP with is 'living' in the same location/town for a while. This allows you to get to know the locals, and eventually form friendships with them.

I tend to only factor in age if the subject of hunting comes up, but I don't say things like 'What train are you?', or 'you look young.' reg

quote:
Originally posted by Taernath:
Generally I'll RP with anyone, as long as it's interesting and not too off-the-wall. Sorry, but my character would probably take only a passing interest in your drunk.

That's okay, my drunk character probably doesn't care much about you, either.

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~Nindy
"Don't take this the wrong way." reg

::sniff::

I see how it is.. reg

One of my favorite characters was Wobble, a drunk ranger. I'd keep trying to give him milk, and he'd keep pouring whiskey in the milk glass.

I guess it depends on what kind of drunk the character is...if he's surley, I'd probably grumble about how the Constable doesn't do his job very well and that would be the end of it. If he gives some depth and an interesting twist to his character (not the "wearing nothing special" - WAY overdone!) I might try to help the guy sober up and have a conversation with him.

Like I said, it all depends. Also depends on the surroundings.

R
reg

There was -going- to be depth to him. I suppose I was looking for a question in the area of "what happened?". That would have been enough to get me going on the reason he was like that and it would have moved from there. But since everyone apprently "assumed" that it was the same, overdone, underdressed drunk, no one bothered to interact with him. Rather narrowminded way of playing in my opinion. reg
You can call it narrow-minded. I call it playing smart and not looking for trouble. Last time I responded to someone along those lines, he turned out to be a freaking pervert and followed me around pissing on me. It was the first report I ever made. And I don't think anything ever happened to him, because I saw him a few days later. I was so disgusted, I nearly quit.

You wanted to know what happened? Well, I think that people did get hung up on the fact that you were naked, and you were in the park, which is not the best place to start up an RP. I never go there anymore, because it gives me a headache. It's almost as bad as the screen scroll at a merchant.

Like I said before. It's great that you are not only RPing, but that you are attempting to initiate the RP. Don't blame others for not following along with your storyline. From what I've seen, the park is still a place where people go solely to get their spells and go hunting. Turn this into a lesson, and try it again, somewhere people will sit up and take notice.


Aerienne reg

That's why I'm not playing platinum anymore. The park was supposed to be the hub of where people go for everything, including RP since people don't migrate anywhere else. Rather hard to go looking for RP when the 50 people online are scattered all over Elanthia like ants and getting five in a room is considered a crowd.

I'm not giving up just because that character didn't work. I know others haven't had a hard time roleplaying and starting up characters, but I don't want to play a giddy, lost person so that someone else can tuck me under their wing and have me look up to them. It's very very hard (for me) to start someone new among the same people who have already grounded themselves and have their own stories and backgrounds and sometimes it feels really hard to become a part of it.

All these experimentations with my vast array of characters just proved to me that the platinum platform is not for me. Even if population soared to 100, 100 people scattered between at least six towns is still too little. I need alot of people around to give me variety in the kinds of people I meet. Having every character I make run into the same people everyday will just drive me to drink. (Haha, slight joke.. just a funny.)

And Aerienne, I'm sorry for the experience you had with that person, but somehow it felt like you were taking it out on me for making a character with a *few* of the same characteristics. I've had problems with people that have red hair. Should I avoid every person with red hair because one tried to violate me? That's what I meant by being narrow-minded. Not everyone is shaped or made the same, and to assume someone is exactly the same without giving them the barest amount of a chance is really not being fair to anyone. But yes, I'm chocking this up as experience and moving on back to prime. reg

I was not taking into account the difference in Plat vs. Prime, since I've never played it. I just thought of the park as I know it, and placed what you were explaining into the scenario I know.

And perhaps the red-headed example isn't quite the same...More like running from a Vraael witch because the last one one-shot killed me... ::winks:: If she's ugly and wearing a pointy hat while waving a wand.... RUN!

And I can't say I'm sorry you will be leaving Plat. I think it would be fun to run into one of your characters.

Aerienne reg

I suppose I took the experience a little too much to heart. For platinum claiming it to be the RP haven, I would have *preferred* that they tell me, "Your kind isn't allowed here!" or "Get out of here vagabond! Your kind is considered an outcast here!". ANY kind of interaction, bad or good, would have been fine with me. But it was the ignoring I didn't care for.

When you hear how they constantly crave for new people to join to have more people to roleplay with, and that's the response you get, where you have to stand on your head to get attention, I'm sorry but I won't suck up to ANYone for that. I can roleplay anywhere. I went there for the roleplaying only. I would have been content to have a level 1 person for the entire time there. But that's just me. I'll be perfectly content now in prime with my rogue and my little ranger.

Thanks for all the input everyone. It really did put some perspective on certain things I have done and will do in the future. reg

Not everyone craves for more people in plat. I think the number its at now is perfect and I hope not another living soul joins.

Mike

Zanagan/Zarosa reg

quote:
Originally posted by Zanagodly:
Not everyone craves for more people in plat. I think the number its at now is perfect and I hope not another living soul joins.

Mike

Zanagan/Zarosa


If there other plat players like you with that feeling, and the interaction remains how it is, you may just get your wish.
reg

Actually there are very few who feel the same as me on this subject, but oh well.

Mike reg

I like your idea, you could completely expand on that

A great roleplayer, in my opinion, and a master at manipulating the text system in a way that you feel like you are watching a Broadway show is Shallowgrave/Truebeard/Hubris/Pain


You should write to him or whisper to him in Plat for some pointers, he'll probably have a good 'feel' for how to impress the community in Plat..

reg