The Players Corner Archive

Well, tonight this hypocrite does this...Now, he is complaining about me MAing but yet he asks Deanndria for spells before hand and everyone knows she is also Lousinda....lol. Sorry, but this is one of the true hyprocrites in the lands. He then got really mad because he realized he left his container open and I robbed him blind....lol

Harrass someone with the ability to decimate you is a true sign of no intelligence.

>You gesture.
If you were visible, your form would have blurred.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>Jestine says, "brb"
>Jestine just went south.
>Deanndria beams happily at Drevn!
>Deanndria just gave Drevn a smooch.
>Drevn just hugged Deanndria.
>Deanndria meditates over Salvitin.
Deanndria takes Salvitin's head damage.
> * Atzlan just bit the dust!
>Deanndria meditates over Salvitin.
Deanndria takes Salvitin's right leg damage.
>Deanndria meditates over Salvitin.
Deanndria takes Salvitin's right hand damage.
>Deanndria meditates over Salvitin.
Deanndria takes all of Salvitin's blood loss.
>Deanndria winks at Salvitin.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's head looks better.
>Drevn gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Drevn gestures.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's right leg looks better.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's right hand looks better.
>Drevn asks, "could I send for alkars and walls Deanndria?"
>Deanndria says, "shore"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
Drevn suddenly looks a lot more powerful.
Drevn is surrounded by a white light.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
Drevn suddenly looks a lot more powerful.
Drevn is surrounded by a white light.
>Drevn faces Deanndria, closes his eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Drevn opens his eyes, looking slightly drained.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
>Drevn says, "thank you"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Drevn just opened a skunkhide sack.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
>Drevn removes a flawless soulstone from in his skunkhide sack.
>Drevn rubs a flawless soulstone.
A small circular container suddenly appears and floats rather serenely over to Drevn.
His soulstone suddenly disintegrates!
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Drevn just closed a skunkhide sack.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Drevn rubs a crystal amulet.
Drevn gets an odd look on his face.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures at Drevn.
A wall of force surrounds Drevn.
> * Durail just bit the dust!
>Deanndria says, "about 3 and some change"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
Drevn says, "thank you"
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's head looks better.
>Deanndria says, "most welcome"
>Deanndria grins.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's right leg looks better.
>A fine silvery mist coalesces into Jestine as she stumbles into view dragging Xenosphere behind her.
>Avator gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Avator gestures at Xenosphere.
Nothing happens.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's right hand looks better.
>Deanndria pinches Xenosphere and there's nothing he can do about it.
>You hear the ghostly voice of Xenosphere say, "bah"
>You hear the ghostly voice of Xenosphere say, "that sucked"
>You feel at full magical power again.
>Drevn says, "must get confusing trying to control three bodies at once"
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes Xenosphere's head damage.
Drevn snorts.
>You hear the ghostly voice of Xenosphere say, "aye.. it does"
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes Xenosphere's left eye damage.
>Avator stands up.
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes Xenosphere's right leg damage.
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes Xenosphere's right eye damage.
>You notice Avator botch an attempt to conceal himself.
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes Xenosphere's right arm damage.
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes Xenosphere's chest damage.
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes Xenosphere's abdomen damage.
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes some of Xenosphere's blood loss.
>You hear the ghostly voice of Xenosphere ask, "right now i'm controlling you.. can you feel the urge?"
>Jestine says, "funny how you log when you get caught stealing"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria looks a little better.
>exper
Level: 111 Experience: 5068490
Next level at: 5100000 exp. Exp. until next lvl: 31510
Family Fame: 489075607 Character Fame: 488862620
Deeds: 16 Deaths this level: 0
Mana: 333/333 Max

Your mind is as clear as a bell.
>Jestine stands up.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria looks a little better.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria looks a little better.
>Drevn says, "I know youre not talking to me"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Avator gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria looks a little better.
>Avator gestures.
Avator is surrounded by a brilliant swirling mist and vanishes!
>You hear the voice of Jestine say, "was talking to you"
>Drevn says, "steal from me and I will take your head"

**he just realized I had cleaned him out with Jestine**

>Omnirus just arrived.
>Drevn just closed a translucent spidersilk backpack.
>Omnirus asks, "need a cleric?"
>Avator suddenly appears in a flash of brilliant light.
>You hear the ghostly voice of Xenosphere say, "aye.. please"
>Deanndria nods to Omnirus.
Drevn says, "I dont care how many souls you control"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's head looks better.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's head looks better.
>You hear the ghostly voice of Xenosphere say, "Drev.. i likes ya and all.. but cut that talk out"
>You hear the ghostly voice of Xenosphere say, "take it somewhere else"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's head looks better.
>Drevn says, "shut up"
>You hear the voice of Jestine say, "ok twit"
>Omnirus says, "Ah Avator you can have it"
>You hear the ghostly voice of Xenosphere ask, "what?"
>Omnirus peers quizzically at Drevn.
>Omnirus asks, "whats going on?"
>Omnirus peers quizzically at Xenosphere.
Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Avator gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's head looks better.
>Avator gestures at Xenosphere.
A silvery translucent thread extends from Avator encompassing Xenosphere's corpse.
>Salvitin renews his songs.
>Avator gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Avator gestures at Xenosphere.
Avator suddenly looks very drained.

A bolt of soft white light streaks down from the sky bathing Xenosphere in it.
>
A brilliant glow forms around Xenosphere, lingers for a moment, and finally fades. Xenosphere awakens looking somewhat confused and seriously drained.
>Drevn says, "Im sick of these fools"
>Omnirus says, "Who"
>You hear the voice of Jestine say, "then leave"
>Drevn says, "the zombie horde"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Salvitin asks, "zombies?"
>Salvitin grins.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's head looks better.
>You hear the voice of Jestine ask, "Oh but you like angellisa?"
>Omnirus asks, "I dont see any zombies?"
>You hear the voice of Jestine say, "what a moron"
>Lady Kaedra just arrived.
>Drevn says, "I see at least 3"
>Salvitin leans on Kaedra propping his chin on her shoulder.
>Xenosphere says, "he was talking bout controlling souls and such.. and i'll be damn'd if he tells me shut up when i've never been a zombie and never will be"
>Omnirus says, "my symbol of voln shows no undead"
>Drevn says, "maybe more"
>Omnirus leans on Drevn.
>Xenosphere says, "now dont make me report you "
>Kaedra nods to Salvitin.
>Xenosphere begins a musical chant...
>Xenosphere sings a melody.
In response to the soothing melody of Xenosphere's song, your surroundings become calm and still.
>Kaedra put a rolaren waraxe in her paladin's cloak.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's right leg looks better.
Drevn says, "do it"

**Sorry to say. Drevn is one of the in crowd. Reporting does no good**

>Xenosphere sits up.
>Avator gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Xenosphere says, "doing"
>Avator gestures.
Avator is surrounded by a brilliant swirling mist and vanishes!
>Kaedra works her way out of some forest green brigandine.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
There is a dim flash around Kaedra.
Kaedra's body seems to glow with an internal strength.
>Drevn says, "must be number 4"
> * Barsad just bit the dust!
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
There is a dim flash around Kaedra.
Kaedra's body seems to glow with an internal strength.
>Xenosphere says, "you know me"
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
There is a dim flash around Kaedra.
Kaedra's veins stand out briefly.
>Kaedra nods to Salvitin.
>Xenosphere says, "and i've never been one"
>Salvitin nods.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
There is a dim flash around Kaedra.
Kaedra's veins stand out briefly.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
Drevn says, "I thought so"
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's right eye looks better.
>Drevn shrugs.
>You hear the voice of Jestine say, "thanks for the nice gems Drevn. You was a little to late closign your pack"
Drevn says, "but who knows"
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
Kaedra begins to breathe more deeply.
>Jestine comes out of hiding.
Jestine grabs Xenosphere and tries to drag him, but he doesn't budge.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A misty halo surrounds Kaedra.
> * Lotheloren just bit the dust!
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A light blue glow surrounds Kaedra.
>Omnirus just went southwest.
>Omnirus just arrived.
Xenosphere says, "Drevn.. you need some attitude adjustment.. seems you've gotten bitter with age"
>Jestine winks at Drevn.
>Xenosphere sighs.
>Salvitin faces Kaedra, closes his eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Salvitin opens his eyes, looking slightly drained.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A light blue glow surrounds Kaedra.
> * Maxidonis just bit the dust!
>Drevn laughs!
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A deep blue glow surrounds Kaedra.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Boomsplat just arrived.
Kaedra gestures.
A deep blue glow surrounds Kaedra.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's left eye looks better.
>Drevn says, "thats pretty good"
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Boomsplat stands up.
>Kaedra gestures.
Kaedra suddenly looks a lot more powerful.
Kaedra is surrounded by a white light.
>Omnirus says, "It seems to me that such things should only be spoken in privite"
>Kaedra nods to Salvitin.
>Boomsplat grins stupidly.
>Boomsplat waves.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Jestine says, "He is a idiot. I caught him stealing the other night and he logs instantly in fear"
Xenosphere nods to Omnirus.
>Kaedra gestures.
Kaedra suddenly looks a lot more powerful.
Kaedra is surrounded by a white light.
>Xenosphere says, "aye"
>Xenosphere says, "all i asked for"
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
Kaedra suddenly looks more powerful.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A dim aura surrounds Kaedra.
>Omnirus says, "and it also seems that me and Xeno don't wanna hear it"
>Drevn says, "and a liar to boot"
>Salvitin faces Kaedra, closes his eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Salvitin opens his eyes, looking slightly drained.
>Xenosphere says, "and he starts verbally attacking me"
>Drevn chuckles.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Jestine says, "but what can you expect from someone so poorly trained"
Kaedra gestures.
An opalescent aura surrounds Kaedra.
>Boomsplat looks rather confused.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A sphere of pure white light appears above you.
A wispy tendril of pure magic reaches out to encircle Kaedra and those nearby.
>Salvitin leans against a jagged stone ledge.
>Drevn laughs!
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A pearlescent emanation extends outward to encompass Kaedra and those nearby.
>Xenosphere says, "Sheesh"
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A pure white aura sparkles around Kaedra.
>Xenosphere says, "please take it elsewhere"
> * Akeasha just bit the dust!
>Omnirus asks, "I doubt Kaedra or Salvit do either?"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A warm golden aura coalesces around Kaedra.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's left eye looks better.
>Omnirus peers quizzically at Kaedra.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Omnirus peers quizzically at Salvitin.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's chest looks better.
>Salvitin faces Kaedra, closes his eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Salvitin opens his eyes, looking slightly drained.
>Kaedra asks, "do what?"
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
> * Nauticar just bit the dust!
>Kaedra gestures.
A brilliant aura surrounds Kaedra.
>Salvitin says, "its interesting to watch"
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
Kaedra stands tall and appears more confident.
>Salvitin says, "I enjoy it"
>Omnirus asks, "Do you wanna listen to him shoot his mouth off?"
>experDeanndria gestures.
Deanndria's abdomen looks better.
>
Level: 111 Experience: 5068490
Next level at: 5100000 exp. Exp. until next lvl: 31510
Family Fame: 489075607 Character Fame: 488862620
Deeds: 16 Deaths this level: 0
Mana: 333/333 Max

Your mind is as clear as a bell.
>Omnirus begins chuckling at Salvitin.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Xenosphere says, "Wanna here all this psycho babble about controlling souls"
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's right eye looks better.
>Kaedra says, "Im friends with Drevn"
>Omnirus says, "You just wanna see them kill each other"
>Omnirus laughs!
>Xenosphere says, "So am I"
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes some of Xenosphere's blood loss.
>Xenosphere nods to Kaedra.
>Boomsplat works his fingers under his tsark skull helm and scratches his head.
>Xenosphere says, "or was"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria looks a little better.
>Salvitin asks, "Aren't we all friends in the rift?"
>Salvitin scratches his head.
>Xenosphere says, "but i still dont wanna hear that stuff"
>Omnirus says, "I remember him from when he was young"
>Boomsplat babbles something unintelligible.
>Omnirus says, "but I dont like OOC pardon me"
>Omnirus coughs.
>Xenosphere nods to Omnirus.
>Xenosphere says, "me either"
>Omnirus says, "its unacceptable for a place as high as this"
>A fine silvery mist appears as Lauranathalasa fades into view beside you.
>Omnirus shrugs.
>Xenosphere says, "aye.. i agree"
>Drevn says, "I really dont care what you like right now"

**Now that is a true twit\snert statement**

**Doesn't that sound like Simu staff statement?**

>Boomsplat nods to Omnirus.
Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's left eye looks better.
>Omnirus beams happily at Lauranathalasa!
>Xenosphere says, "see"
>Xenosphere waves a hand at Drevn, dismissing him indifferently.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
The air thickens and begins to swirl around Kaedra.
>Lauranathalasa waves to Omnirus.
>Jestine says, "Aye, seems someone needs to grow up"
>Xenosphere says, "you are a bitter old soul now"
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A wall of force surrounds Kaedra.
>Drevn says, "I agree"

**amazing, he admitted he needed to grow up**

>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A wall of force surrounds Kaedra.
Drevn nods to Jestine.
>Boomsplat drops some coins.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A wall of force surrounds Kaedra.
>Salvitin says, "..and if any theifves want my gems, you can just ask, and I'll hand them over"
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Kaedra gestures.
A wall of force surrounds Kaedra.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Salvitin scratches his chin.
>Boomsplat raises his hand.
Kaedra gestures.
A wall of force surrounds Kaedra.
>Boomsplat grins at Salvitin.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Boomsplat says, "Boom tank'ums few."
>Kaedra gestures.
A wall of force surrounds Kaedra.
>Boomsplat points at himself.
Salvitin asks, "your a thief?"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
Boomsplat grins stupidly.
>Kaedra gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's right arm looks better.
>Kaedra gestures.
CS: +486 - TD: +514 + CvA: +15 + d100: +11 == -2
Warded off!
>Boomsplat winks.
>Salvitin gazes in awe at Boomsplat.
>Xenosphere says, "yes.. just ask me.. and i'll kindly put up peace"
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's right leg looks better.
>Kaedra works her way into some forest green brigandine.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Xenosphere mutters under his breath.
>Salvitin removes an emerald from in his blood-red cloak.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria's head looks better.
>Salvitin offers Boomsplat an emerald.
>Kaedra asks, "anyone have spare mana?"
>Drevn works his way out of some silvery rolaren chain armor.
>Boomsplat declines Salvitin's offer.
Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Salvitin faces Kaedra, closes his eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Salvitin opens his eyes, looking slightly drained.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria looks a little better.
>Drevn gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Drevn gestures.
Drevn stands taller, as if bolstered with a sense of confidence.
>Jestine says, "funny how he is mad about getting caught"
>Salvitin stands up.
>Boomsplat says, "Boom kid'ums."
>Jestine cackles!
>Boomsplat chuckles.
>Boomsplat just tickled Salvitin.
>Drevn gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Drevn gestures.
His body is surrounded by a dim dancing aura.
>Deanndria gestures.
Deanndria looks a little better.
>Salvitin faces Kaedra, closes his eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Salvitin opens his eyes, looking slightly drained.
>Kaedra giggles.
Lord Salvitin just went southwest.
>Omnirus grins.
>Kaedra says, "thanks"
>Deanndria just hugged Boomsplat.
>Lord Salvitin just arrived.
>Kaedra removes a rolaren waraxe from in her paladin's cloak.
>Salvitin faces Kaedra, closes his eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Salvitin opens his eyes, looking slightly drained.
>Deanndria meditates over Xenosphere.
Deanndria takes all of Xenosphere's blood loss.
>Boomsplat just hugged Deanndria.
>Drevn works his way into some silvery rolaren chain armor.
>Salvitin faces Kaedra, closes his eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Salvitin opens his eyes, looking slightly drained.
>Kaedra says, "full now"
>Salvitin sits down.
>Salvitin nods.
>Kaedra pokes Salvitin in the ribs.
>Lauranathalasa nods to Omnirus.
>Salvitin tilts his emerald side to side, making the light play off it.
>Kaedra says, "i'll be on three"
>Salvitin begins a musical chant...
>Lady Kaedra just went south.
>Salvitin skillfully weaves another verse into his harmony, directing the sound of his voice at an emerald.
Nothing happens.
>Salvitin begins a musical chant...
>Salvitin skillfully weaves another verse into his harmony, directing the sound of his voice at an emerald.
When the song ends, you notice the emerald sparkles a little more and is void of some natural imperfections.
>Lauranathalasa says, "you got it"
>Salvitin begins a musical chant...
>Omnirus grins.
>Lauranathalasa nods to Deanndria.
>Salvitin put a rolaren tower shield in his battle harness.
>Salvitin works his way out of some deep black rolaren-linked chainmail.
>Deanndria meditates over Lauranathalasa.
Deanndria takes Lauranathalasa's abdomen damage.
>Salvitin skillfully weaves another verse into his harmony, directing the sound of his voice at an emerald.
Salvitin's voice focuses on the emerald which quickly shatters into thousands of fragments!
... 20 points of damage!
Good blow to right hand!
He is stunned!
>Xenosphere snorts at Salvitin.
>Deanndria gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>Boomsplat removes an oaken wand from in his black leather pack.
>Salvitin says, "bah, blasted things"
Deanndria gestures at Salvitin.
Nothing happens.
>Xenosphere says, "outta practice"
>Boomsplat waves the oaken wand at Salvitin.
Nothing happens.
>Deanndria meditates over Lauranathalasa.
Deanndria takes Lauranathalasa's chest damage.
>Salvitin snarls menacingly!
>Omnirus grins.
>Salvitin begins a musical chant...
>Salvitin skillfully weaves another verse into his harmony, directing the sound of his voice at Xenosphere.
Nothing happens.
>Boomsplat snaps his fingers.
Boomsplat put an oaken wand in his black leather pack.
>Deanndria meditates over Lauranathalasa.
Nothing happens.
>Xenosphere laughs!
>Xenosphere stops singing.
>Lauranathalasa begins chuckling at Omnirus.
>Xenosphere just closed a crinkled pink cotton pouch.
>Salvitin begins a musical chant...
>Deanndria just hugged Lauranathalasa.
>Jestine slings a blackened glaes tower shield off from over her shoulder.
>The sense of peace and security passes away from the area.
>Lauranathalasa turns towards Deanndria and renders a sharp salute with her bastard sword.
Xenosphere begins a musical chant...
>Salvitin skillfully weaves another verse into his harmony, directing the sound of his voice at Xenosphere.
Xenosphere seems mesmerized by the tune.
>Drevn says, "dont whisper to me, I dont want to hear it"

**I told him to go to Plat and cry. Oh! They MA there to idiot. Just leave the lands then.**

**Just pushing his buttons now. Was starting to enjoy the torment he brought upon himself**

He didn't say anything else and left eventually. Amazing how the oldest people in the lands are the worst cry babies.

I went to plane 4 and robbed him while he hunted some more. He left the plane shortly after and logged off. Amazing. They want to start a war but run like the cowards they are.

: nly sees the backside of Drevn as he runs away::

I don't know if it's the real Drevn or a new owner or second soul. But this character for being in the lands so long has nothing of value. He wears a skunkhide sack which is from pinefar. Cost less then 10k. Has that roleran chainmail that is 4x and somewhat crit padded. This is one of the elite judging me? Come on now. With what you have. You look like a bought soul to me bud.

edge

[This message has been edited by edge (edited 05-27-2001).] reg

I hate thiefs that log off because of being caught. When I was a thief I accepted a single death and normally after being caught I became friends with the individual. Death helps make the game fun. Play it for fun or don't play at all.

Lord Deprav
Former thief of Weinhemers. reg

edge reg

::falls on the ground laughing::

I complain a lot. But I think 70% of it is justifyable. When I am wrong. I admit it. Do you? How about you GOD? You got caught doing something but yet you still deny it. Take your shots, I got a think skin.

I think that the directoin GS is going is wrong. I think that GS corruption and abuse is the biggest problem in the lands. More then MAing or anything. They want MAers, more money. But, when you pay a GM McDonalds wages. You get that quality of a product.

I stay to myself for the most part. But this fued between me and Angellisa is really getting bad now. This is why Drevn said what he did I found out. I may tell the whole story soon. After Simucon. Why, I hate her to death.

But until then. I think Drevns complaint was totally hypocritical since he died a day later on plane four and logged off until Bhambi came for him. Go figure.

edge, disgruntled and angry customer of Simutronics reg

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Originally posted by edge:
Damn. Complaints folder I am a Mod for. Which I am suppose to keep alive. You are going to cry about that?

::falls on the ground laughing::

I complain a lot. But I think 70% of it is justifyable. When I am wrong. I admit it. Do you? How about you GOD? You got caught doing something but yet you still deny it. Take your shots, I got a think skin.

I think that the directoin GS is going is wrong. I think that GS corruption and abuse is the biggest problem in the lands. More then MAing or anything. They want MAers, more money. But, when you pay a GM McDonalds wages. You get that quality of a product.

I stay to myself for the most part. But this fued between me and Angellisa is really getting bad now. This is why Drevn said what he did I found out. I may tell the whole story soon. After Simucon. Why, I hate her to death.

But until then. I think Drevns complaint was totally hypocritical since he died a day later on plane four and logged off until Bhambi came for him. Go figure.

edge, disgruntled and angry customer of Simutronics

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Be interesting to hear this 'story'.

reg

Yes Edgeleaf, I think they forget that you are moderator of this folder and that it's appropriate to keep your topic alive by providing some information on it.

I once again repeat, this folder is for making complaints about Gemstone, that is the main and direct purpose of this folder and the moderator or anyone has some information about problems they perceive in Gemstone, this is the place to make it.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

Share the story Edge.

Lord Deprav
A man of odd oppinions. reg

Also, when someone dies on 4, you gotta drag them and drop them to 5, then drag and drop to 2. I think.

Drevn: "anyone getting brutkc?"
Rhackee: "He is on 4 I was trying to figure out where he is"
Rhackee: "I can't go to 4\"
You: "Heya Rhackee"
You: "Anyone going for em?"

**We saw Drevn on plane 2**

**Summir was locating Brutkc at this point and he was alone on 4**

Rhackee: "Hiya Edge"
You: "I will take that as a no"
Rhackee: "Think to me if you need me in cavern Edge"
You: "Summir is with me, I am not old enough to get em off of four"
Rhackee: "Ok good I am not either, can she?"
Summir: "not quite yet"
You: "nope. Drevn is old enough but he is running around on 2. So I think he isn't going"
Rhackee: "Drevn you going per chance?"
You: "Since I am asking, he will not answer and be a idiot. But what can you expect from a moron"

**Drevn was with him at this point on 4**

Rhackee: "be nice, maybe his amunet fell off, he asked first if anyone was going "
You: "Nae, I doubt it. He lets OOC things get to him. Weak willed person"
Rhackee: "Drevn is with him now"
You: "Yep, amazing how he will not tell anyone"

**was back on 2 looking for Brutkc's body**

Rhackee: "Summir or Aslar you gonna peek in to cavern, or shall I?"
Summir: "we're on our way in"
Rhackee: "ok good, thank you"

You say, "Glad you could announce you was getting him Drevn"
>
Summir put some pothinir grass in her ingredients satchel.
>'After you ask
Summir removes some ephlox moss from in her ingredients satchel.
>
You say, "After you ask"
>
Drevn says, "I did three times"
>
Summir takes a bite of her ephlox moss.
Summir's left leg looks better.
>
Summir put some ephlox moss in her ingredients satchel.
>
Drevn says, "nobody felt the need to answer"
>
Summir removes some acantha leaf from in her ingredients satchel.
>
You feel less drained.
>
Summir takes a bite of her acantha leaf.
Summir makes a horrible face!
Summir looks a little better.
>
Summir takes a bite of her acantha leaf.
Summir looks a little better.
>
Summir takes a bite of her acantha leaf.
Summir makes a horrible face!
Summir looks a little better.
Summir takes a bite of her acantha leaf.
Summir makes a horrible face!
Summir looks a little better.
>
Summir takes a bite of her acantha leaf.
Summir makes a horrible face!
Summir looks a little better.
>
Summir takes a bite of her acantha leaf.
Summir looks a little better.
>
Summir takes a bite of her acantha leaf.
Summir looks a little better.
>
* Ahira just bit the dust!
>
Summir put some acantha leaf in her ingredients satchel.
>
* Silverace just bit the dust!
"rhackee was asking several times
>You say, "rhackee was asking several times"
>
Aslar asks, "ya want me ta bother tendin that?"
>
Summir says, "no one could get to 4"
>'asking for someone to get him
You say, "asking for someone to get him"
>exp

Level: 114 Experience: 5214187
Next level at: 5250000 exp. Exp. until next lvl: 35813
Family Fame: 513259695 Character Fame: 513046708
Deeds: 19 Deaths this level: 0
Mana: 255/342 Max

Your mind is numbed.
>
You hear the ghostly voice of Brutkc say, "no if someone can unstun"
Aslar gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>

[Entering rest mode...press any key to resume.]

Drevn says, "I told him i was going to 4"
>
Aslar gestures at Brutkc.
A silvery translucent thread extends from Aslar encompassing Brutkc's corpse.
>
Aslar says, "alrighty"
>
Drevn says, "then nobody answered when i droppped him"
>
Summir blinks.
>

[Leaving rest mode.]

Drevn says, "so I want from 5 to 4 to 2 while others just sat on their butt"
>
You hear the ghostly voice of Brutkc say, "someone unstun me please"
chuckle

[Entering rest mode...press any key to resume.]

>Aslar asks, "someone wanna unstun?"
>
Your SIGN OF SHIELDS is no longer effective.
You feel drained!
>
Summir whispers, " answer Omni's IM"
>
Summir nods to Brutkc.
>
Your SIGN OF DEFENDING is no longer effective.
>
You chuckle.
>
Drevn removes a metallic black pearl from in his silver coffer.
>
Drevn put a metallic black pearl in his spidersilk backpack.
>
Summir gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>
Aslar cracks his knuckles.
>
Drevn removes a radiant opalescent thunderstone from in his silver coffer.
>
Drevn put a radiant opalescent thunderstone in his spidersilk backpack.
>
Aslar just touched Brutkc.
>
Aslar kneels down and begins to recite prayers.
>
Aslar gestures and utters a phrase of magic.
>
Aslar gestures at Brutkc.
Aslar suddenly looks very drained.

A bolt of soft white light streaks down from the sky bathing Brutkc in it.
>
A brilliant glow forms around Brutkc, lingers for a moment, and finally fades. Brutkc awakens looking somewhat confused and seriously drained.
Brutkc's body suddenly grows darker.

What this boils down to is. We was going to go to Plane 4 and most likely die to prevent Brutkc from decaying.

edge
> reg

That's impossible by the way.

You have to go 5/1...you can't go 5/4. And you can't hop 4/2...you can't go backwards is what I'm saying. But you know that. reg

So you were abusing the use of multiple accounts by creating this conflict. He stole from your cleric, and your cleric was oblivious. Your rogue saw him do it, so Team Edge took on Drevn. You should be very proud. What ever happened to fighting your own battles?

That's the problem with multi-accounting. You think that because you spoke the words from Jestine's mouth, that you are doing a good job of roleplaying? You obviously took the theft personally, so you retaliated with your rogue account. Pretty pathetic.

And by the way, how the hell could you have reported him for logging? YOU (cleric) didn't see him steal from you. Your rogue did. Your cleric doesn't have a leg to stand on.
reg

Very confused Mano reg

Multi accounters could be in character or couldn't. To base your roleplay actions or actions of your character based on this is incredibly ooc in itself.

It would be very reasonable if a thief who is a friend of a wizard or whatever combination you want to think of tell them they saw something. Why do people have to assume that this sort of exchange is only valid between two seperate players and not characters?

I see a lot of hypocritical statements by both sides. It should of been dealt with by whispers or some other ooc means, not in game.

reg

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Originally posted by Manodith:
I removed two posts which I found to just be flames on edge for no reason what so ever.

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Um, isn't this whole subfolder a flame on Drevn?

~not Drevn
reg

Mano reg

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Originally posted by Manodith:
uh I'm so confused on your post Dark Ranger where does it say he did anything to Dreven with any character? It just says he noticed something and then Dreven logged out...

Very confused Mano

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I'm not sure what there is to be confused about. Edge stated very clearly that Drevn stole from his cleric. His cleric didn't see it. His rogue did see it. Drevn logged out, and Edge said that he could have reported him. He could only have reported him if his cleric had seen the theft, and then Drevn had logged out. This didn't happen.

SO, the next time that Edge's cleric sees Drevn, he steal from him with his rogue, and insults him with his cleric. My point being, there is no excuse for using 2 or 3 accounts in a conflict that only involves ONE of your characters. It is against policy, and Edge is the one that should have been reported.

reg

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Originally posted by Manodith:
I seriously don't see it as a flame at all when someone is stating simple facts that are proven by logs... If Dreven has any comments he should come here and post them.

Mano

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LOL! Did you actually read the first post? Beyond the log, Edge states that Drevn is a hypocrite, has "no true intellgence", he's "one of the in crowd", calls him a true "twit/snert", said he needed to "grow up", called him a crybaby, called him an idiot, and accused him of being a bought soul.

Simple facts eh? More like protecting your own friends from flames while letting others get not so gently roasted backsides.
reg

He knew he got caught by my rogue. So he logged. Simple. To prevent me from stealing or killing him.

I will edit the log after I get home from work to make it more....PC.

Bottom line is. He let OOC things which is MAing be his reasoning to harrass me first ingame. Then realized he got more then he could ever handle. Play with fire and you will get burnt. Same goes with me.

I never even spoke with Drevn before that first log. Other then asking him if he could open a box. He said no. I didn't harrass him for that. Tell all this happened.

edge reg

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Originally posted by edge:
So, if you friend who is on a rogue sees someone stealing from you. Would you tell them? Yep. So MAing is the same way. But you know without saying anything.

He knew he got caught by my rogue. So he logged. Simple. To prevent me from stealing or killing him.

I will edit the log after I get home from work to make it more....PC.

Bottom line is. He let OOC things which is MAing be his reasoning to harrass me first ingame. Then realized he got more then he could ever handle. Play with fire and you will get burnt. Same goes with me.

I never even spoke with Drevn before that first log. Other then asking him if he could open a box. He said no. I didn't harrass him for that. Tell all this happened.

edge

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And you are just as guilty of using ooc reasons of responding. You were mad as the player about his actions as a player. You were NOT roleplaying. One of the character's you were running not only made this clear by outloud comments you also made it a impact other people's good time by your personal agenda.

I will back you up everytime you roleplay something out and do it for fun, but once you start disrupting the roleplay with ooc comments outloud and act on personal emotions then I see you doing the same exact thing you state the other person is guilty of.

This isn't a who was first wrong game. It's a game to enjoy. If you TRULY were upset as the player instead of continuing to add gas to the fire, why not make a simple attempt to talk to the Player of the character that made you upset without disrupting the other's around you?

If that attempt fails then it should be pretty damn clear that they are not mature enough to hear you or they do not have the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality. At that point you should do the right thing. STOP interacting and report them followed by an assist.

I can understand it is frustrating and you would be upset with them, but you only make it worse by continueing the interaction and trying to 'discipline' them for their mistake.

As much as I would love to "school" some idiots that make this game a kindegarten I know it just makes me get in trouble with the GM's if I do. I look worse for it. That much is apparent by the current GM's in the game who will always assume you are wrong and not tell you really what happens.

-all ooc speech was carefully screened and now carries a PG-13 label to protect those under that age

reg

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Originally posted by edge:
So, if you friend who is on a rogue sees someone stealing from you. Would you tell them? Yep. So MAing is the same way. But you know without saying anything.

He knew he got caught by my rogue. So he logged. Simple. To prevent me from stealing or killing him.

I will edit the log after I get home from work to make it more....PC.

Bottom line is. He let OOC things which is MAing be his reasoning to harrass me first ingame. Then realized he got more then he could ever handle. Play with fire and you will get burnt. Same goes with me.

I never even spoke with Drevn before that first log. Other then asking him if he could open a box. He said no. I didn't harrass him for that. Tell all this happened.

edge

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There actually is a difference. If someone steals from me, and a rogue friend of mine tells me, that doesn't mean that I can kill the theif. The only thing that I have to go on is my friend's word. I know that he has no reason to lie to me, but that is simply not proof.

Secondly, you used your rogue to steal from him, because you were using OOC knowledge. Your cleric really had NO way to tell if he had actually stolen from you. Because you had another Wizard open, and you the player KNEW beyond a shadow of a doubt that he had stolen, you used your rogue account (who is really completely uninvolved) to steal from Drevn. If it was actually a friend of yours, instead of yourself controlling two bodies, I wouldn't have a problem with it. If it was a friend of yours, they would be making the decision whether or not to get involved. Because you are in control of both bodies, it is against policy.

When in a conflict with another person, you can't have your cleric bind someone, and then have your rogue ambush them. It is the same principle with stealing. I feel that if you are going to play multiple characters at once, you have to let each one hold their own ground.

In my opinion, there is nothing more cowardly than having to rely on multiple accounts to fight your battles. Let each character stand on their own. You don't 'win' by doing this, you are simply cheating.

And to make things clear, I don't know Drevn from a hole in the wall, and the first log you posted makes you both look like Rift Babies. The second log shows you thinking the following on the amunet:

Rhackee: "Drevn you going per chance?"
You: "Since I am asking, he will not answer and be a idiot. But what can you expect from a moron"

**Drevn was with him at this point on 4**

Rhackee: "be nice, maybe his amunet fell off, he asked first if anyone was going "
You: "Nae, I doubt it. He lets OOC things get to him. Weak willed person"
Rhackee: "Drevn is with him now"
You: "Yep, amazing how he will not tell anyone"

I don't see Drevn replying to you at all here. It seems like you are being completely OOC. You are also making assumptions as to why Drevn is not answering. For all you know, he was fighting for his life, trying to kill the critter in the same room as the body he was trying to save, or had simply switched off his thought window in order to concentrate on the matter at hand.

Here is what I would suggest. If you have an overwhelming desire to kill/torture Drevn, try having a conflict with one of your characters. Ganging up on one person with 3 different accounts is really nothing to brag about. Unless the point you are trying to prove is that you have more accounts, therefore nobody better mess with you. I wouldn't recommend this strategy though, because if a GM witnesses you doing it, all of your accounts will be locked out. reg

Drevn is a rift hunter, in the course of dropping the body several times, then running around all the planes. He could have thought on the net.

As for me being OOC. I make targets to steal from. I steal from people that give my friends a hard time or any of my characters a hard time. If you look at it from a IC reason. My rogue saw him stealing from my cleric and took offense and now will take it upon herself to punish the person without them knowing it. Not stealing if you don't get caught. Which with the game mechenics the way they are, I can't. When he walks into the room I get a sound...Cha-CHing! Gotta love it.

It's amazing how people like to try and twist a story to suit them.

But what is truely pathetic is. People know that I will do this to them, but yet they will not leave me alone. Then cry when I rob them blind or get some other revenge on them. How stupid do people have to be? I didn't start this problem with him. He brought it upon himself.

Now you are defending him. Saying that it's ok that he harasses me. He knew I have a rogue that can catch him. He knew the consequences of making me mad. But yet he did it. I could do so much more to him if he really pissed me off.

edge
reg

Edge's point here is this.

If you read up to the top of this set of posts (correct me if I'm wrong, which i might be), Edge points to the fact that Drevn complains about how much MA'ing Edge does. (I hope that's this post...otherwise I'm gunna feel like an idiot (yes I said I'll feel like an idiot...which I know someone will abuse that statement ))

Problem with the situation is Drevn MA's. It's been proving several time. You can't complain about someone MA'ing when you simply MA yourself. Can't call the kettle black in a sense. It doesn't work.

And yes, I'm friends with Edge. But no...I'm not kissing his rear-end. The fact of the matter is that when I'm on 4 I see Drevn running around and we chat for a bit. He's a pretty good guy...heck, I have absolutely nothing against him. But when you say someone's doing something and you complain about it...yet you do the exact same thing...that's a cause for concern.

<<Feeds his post to the wolves>> reg

It isn't ever justified even if someone else goes ooc. Never.

Did you ask the others in the area you spoke these things that it was ok with them?

sidenote Xenosphere's "that sucked" comment is very typical of the advanced character develepment seen by one of the eldest bards in the lands.

I am seeing what Siara is talking about. Maybe we should make a folder of logs of the "outstanding" roleplaying we see all the time. (sarcasm)

reg

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Originally posted by GS3Aura:
Edge explain the ooc speech you chose to speak outloud. How is that ever justified?

It isn't ever justified even if someone else goes ooc. Never.

Did you ask the others in the area you spoke these things that it was ok with them?

sidenote Xenosphere's "that sucked" comment is very typical of the advanced character develepment seen by one of the eldest bards in the lands.

I am seeing what Siara is talking about. Maybe we should make a folder of logs of the "outstanding" roleplaying we see all the time. (sarcasm)

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You think that's good Aura?

Hmm.

Sit in a room with Neimanz through his outloud 'heh'.

I know I have to have an old log of Scint hunting...that was awesome

I'd say that 40% of rift-hunters (and yes I'm definitely guilty of doing this sometimes), simply don't RP at all, and don't give a rat's *&!.

(PS Sorry for my earlier post slamming you Aura. Didn't mean it) reg

Either roleplay or shush. The very second you go ooc then I think the GM's should throw the rulebook at you in my opinion.

-some sort of rulebook was used in the making of this post, but I can't seem to find it. reg

quote:

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Originally posted by edge:
Seems you can't read the whole log. Drevn says he told Rhackee he was going for the body. Rhackee says he didn't. I know you want to try and defend Drevn at any cost. Seems you must have a different copy of the log then is posted. Can anyone see the mistakes he made? Rhackee wasn't told like Drevn said he did.

Drevn is a rift hunter, in the course of dropping the body several times, then running around all the planes. He could have thought on the net.

As for me being OOC. I make targets to steal from. I steal from people that give my friends a hard time or any of my characters a hard time. If you look at it from a IC reason. My rogue saw him stealing from my cleric and took offense and now will take it upon herself to punish the person without them knowing it. Not stealing if you don't get caught. Which with the game mechenics the way they are, I can't. When he walks into the room I get a sound...Cha-CHing! Gotta love it.

It's amazing how people like to try and twist a story to suit them.

But what is truely pathetic is. People know that I will do this to them, but yet they will not leave me alone. Then cry when I rob them blind or get some other revenge on them. How stupid do people have to be? I didn't start this problem with him. He brought it upon himself.

Now you are defending him. Saying that it's ok that he harasses me. He knew I have a rogue that can catch him. He knew the consequences of making me mad. But yet he did it. I could do so much more to him if he really pissed me off.

edge

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Sheesh, let me explain this again, and I'll speak slowly. YOU CAN'T USE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT WITH ONE CHARACTER. It is against policy, and will get ALL your accounts locked out. Is that clear enough?

And no, you can't do so much more to him if you want to. It's against policy. Did I say that already? Did you hear me the first 10 times? I try to be civil with you so that you can understand these simple concepts, but you repeatedly make statements like this...

He knew the consequences of making me mad. But yet he did it. I could do so much more to him if he really pissed me off.

In my opinion, you are the Rift Baby in this story. It's sad that your cleric cannot take care of himself, and that you the player have to rely on three accounts. You are the one that was frightened, so you called your teammates to save your behind. reg

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Originally posted by DarkRanger:
Sheesh, let me explain this again, and I'll speak slowly. YOU CAN'T USE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT WITH ONE CHARACTER. It is against policy, and will get ALL your accounts locked out. Is that clear enough?

And no, you can't do so much more to him if you want to. It's against policy. Did I say that already? Did you hear me the first 10 times? I try to be civil with you so that you can understand these simple concepts, but you repeatedly make statements like this...

He knew the consequences of making me mad. But yet he did it. I could do so much more to him if he really pissed me off.

In my opinion, you are the Rift Baby in this story. It's sad that your cleric cannot take care of himself, and that you the player have to rely on three accounts. You are the one that was frightened, so you called your teammates to save your behind.

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Even though he's beating up my friend, Edge. I like this guy...talk about opinionated! Post more DarkRanger! Lol! reg

Asmodea Drey'Haus reg

However, I'll respond to what I observe on the boards here in this folder.

What I'm seeing is two characters, regardless of who is running them, sitting in the same place. I'm seeing another character do something to one of the pair, who remains oblivious. I'm seeing the second of the pair witness the offense, and act upon it.

I see - no problem with this.

What I do have a problem with, is people who have the same scenario, MINUS the second of the pair, UNTIL the offender offends, and only THEN does the second of the pair show up and act. Reason being, since that second of the pair wasn't there to witness anything, he has no way of knowing what, if anything, happened.

But if what I am reading in Edge's posts is an accurate understanding of the situation, then I have no problem with it from a RP point of view with Edge's two characters doing what they did.

Roberta
reg

But it seems you are going to sit there and take the side of the person who started it PERIOD.

But you are saying since I was MAing I am NOT allowed to defend my other account? THink if my friend saw him stealing they would have done nothing? Which is what you are telling me I should do. He would have told my cleric and stolen from him. Just like I did.

MAing is here. I didn't log on a second account to just harass in this situation. HE was stupid enough to come into a room. When he knew she was me. Steal when he knew she could catch him. Then run when he knew I could decimate him.

But sit there and be pissed or whatever. Just because you can justify him harassing me. But when I fought back I am all in the wrong. Would have never had a situation if he minded his own business.

edge

reg

First off, it's true that I said the things in the game about his abuse of the system. It wasn't the place to do so and I probably would have apologized later after I had thought about it if not for the things said since then.

That being said, here are a few things I want to clear up.

"Well, the other night Drevn was sneaking in and out of my room. I seen him do it, seen him steal from my cleric with my rogue then he logs instantly. I know I could have reported him. But I thought it was funny. No big deal. He logged out of fear...heh"

-I have never stolen from you or any of your characters, but if I had decided to you would not have seen me. The statement about me logging is just ludicrous, not even going to dignify that with a reply. Heh, the fear thing is good too.

"Problem with the situation is Drevn MA's. It's been proving several time. You can't complain about someone MA'ing when you simply MA yourself. Can't call the kettle black in a sense. It doesn't work."

-On teras I had a young wizard for a few months who I used for spells. Other than that, nope but would love to see this "proof". Besides, I will not go into it but my problem is not with MA'ing in itself, its those who abuse it creating problems in the game that detrimentally effects others.

-The whole incident about the rescue....seems your amulet cut out or you just decided not to post the whole log. I asked on the net if anyone was getting him, Rhackee said he couldn't go to 4 so I said I would. Then I announced that I dropped him to 2 and could anyone drag him in. No answer. Then after going to get him on 2 I see you hunting. Just proves your amulet was off or you decided not to help with the rescue just to spite me. Also read some comments about traveling, not sure who made them but I will explain what I meant about going from 5 to 4 to 2. Was hunting on 5, voln fogged to 4, dropped him down the chute to 2, voln fogged to 1 climbed the thread to 2 and dragged him through the door.

-Also, edgeleaf has stated a couple time of what he could do to me and I should be afraid. At least you are amusing in your own little way. The only thing you can do to me is ruin the enjoyment of a game, but I am not giving you the chance. I want nothing whatsoever to do with you. There are people who I don't care for in the game but can still interact with them but I have no respect at all for someone who must tell lie after lie to get people on their side and make a huge issue out of something so trivial.

I'm sure I could find more but I'm getting tired of spending time on this. Basically I just wanted to explain a bit for those of you who are basing your opinions from the posts of one person. Believe me if you want, that's up for each person to decide but I wouldn't have taken the time to write this if it wasn't the absolute truth. Like I said, I know I was wrong in what I said but if that warrants this downfall of petty defamation then I think we are all in trouble.

Drevn reg

Bringing in another one of your accounts, or accounts that you have access to. In order to deal with something just doesn't work.

And Edge that counts as well for you when you have the account "already" in the game.

Recently the bought body Ayaki killed my sorcerer in warfarers, he was dealing with brought in to deal with a situation between my sorcerer and someone else.

The funny thing is the very next day a sorcerer named Jhato came into warfarers with a CS way beyond what you need to hunt warfarers and got into it with my sorcerer, than killed my sorcerer. Which was how I noted the 100CS higher casting strenght.

I tend to think that Jhato and Ayaki have something in common, ie like a same soul.

Anyhow there wasn't any roleplay in those scenarios, and the player behind those characters was incorrect to use the secondary character, whether bought or no to deal with the situation.

Btw it was Brauden's handling of the Jhato situation which really irked me.<stares off>

Of course Brauden didn't warm himself to me previously on how he handled my assist which was dealing with Alan/Celtic/Mahgeh<sp>, either.<shrugs>

Anyhow...bringing in or having a second account/character deal with a problem of your other account/character is wrong.

Celtar reg

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Flat out folks, it's against policy to use a second account under your control to deal with a in game situation between your character and another players character.

Bringing in another one of your accounts, or accounts that you have access to. In order to deal with something just doesn't work.

And Edge that counts as well for you when you have the account "already" in the game.

Recently the bought body Ayaki killed my sorcerer in warfarers, he was dealing with brought in to deal with a situation between my sorcerer and someone else.

The funny thing is the very next day a sorcerer named Jhato came into warfarers with a CS way beyond what you need to hunt warfarers and got into it with my sorcerer, than killed my sorcerer. Which was how I noted the 100CS higher casting strenght.

I tend to think that Jhato and Ayaki have something in common, ie like a same soul.

Anyhow there wasn't any roleplay in those scenarios, and the player behind those characters was incorrect to use the secondary character, whether bought or no to deal with the situation.

Btw it was Brauden's handling of the Jhato situation which really irked me.<stares off>

Of course Brauden didn't warm himself to me previously on how he handled my assist which was dealing with Alan/Celtic/Mahgeh<sp>, either.<shrugs>

Anyhow...bringing in or having a second account/character deal with a problem of your other account/character is wrong.

Celtar

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Jhato's a bought soul as well. Halfling Sorcerer. reg

Celtar, sorry to say. But if I pay for 2 accounts, I will play them. I didn't log in Jestine to harass Drevn. She was already there. When he said, hard to control 3 bodies he then picked a fight with all 3 bodies. No matter who was in them at the time. That ISN"T against policy.

Your situation is different. They logged on a account expressly to harass you or kill you. I didn't. But when someone wants to start a fight, then I am more then happy to comply. But I have found that elders are the fastest to report.

I have never bothered you Drevn. You have been nothing but a arse to me. For whatever reasons. Most likely OOC reasons in the first place. Sorry if you don't like MAing. But you admited you did it on Teras. Amazing thing. Do as I say, not as I do?

We can end this feud now or keep it going. I voice my opinions on these boards along with many. I hide nothing. So the balls in your corner.

edge

reg

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Originally posted by edge:
Sorry to say Drevn. I IM'd Rhackee and he said you never thought to him. So that is a lie on your part.

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Come on Edge, I would think after the Scintillion and GSLawyer affairs, you would have learned not to put overly much faith in third party information (much less call someone a liar based on it).

As for the issue at hand, I agree with Edge on this one. If he has three characters in the lands, and can role-play the actions of each, then I see no issue with it. Were I to see one of my friends being stolen from, you bet I would set the player as a mark and proceed accordingly. Of course, this is one of the many gray areas in the game, so by taking action, you leave yourself open to GM interpretation.
reg

*groan*

Please don't remind me.

But ya, I know Rhackee well. But who is to say that the third party info is right. I posted the logs and said my opinion.

If Drevn wants to just call a truce. I would be more then happy. I am more wrong then right it seems here lately.

edge

reg

Conflicts generally begin between two people. The initiator selects one person to start with, even if he proceeds to move onto another in the next breath.

Then, the next thing that needs to happen is that both initiating characters need to decide if it is IC/CvC or OOC/PvP. There is no such thing as CvP.

Then the two characters need to decide if they are consenting to conflict, or taking other steps, which can include ignoring it, not consenting, reporting and assisting.

In an IC situation, other characters entering into conflict would also require consent from the initiating parties -- read that as plural, not just one. And yes, this includes however many you own/run/log in.

In an OOC situation, other players entering into unconsented conflict are just as much OOC and commiting PvP as the initiator. This is where bringing in multiple characters can be seen as against policy, and can be warned as disruptive, PvP, and/or game mechanics abuse... especially if you own/are running more than one character in the conflict.

I guess an example of this, in accordance with policy, would be if John wanted to get into an IC conflict with Travis, and Travis consented, they would RP it out... but Travis would have to also consent to John's buddy Paul, or his wife Letticia, getting involved as well. True, Paul and Letticia could sit on the sidelines and make disparaging remarks, but neither of them would be free to actually engage physically with Travis unless he consented to them, or invited them.

I know that sounds ungainly to some, but I also know groups of players here that manage this kind of RPed conflict quite nicely, and also manage to steer clear of being reported, because they took the nano-second needed to insure everyone consented.

And probably because, as an IC thing, they took the time to set up an actual storyline and worked it out with all parties involved, instead of it being some mindless whack-fest that has all the depth and meaning of a pissing contest or some dispute over something petty.

In an OOC/PvP situation, where John has attacked or invited Travis into conflict, and Travis has consented -- then, once again, Paul and Letticia can not join in until Travis attacks them or otherwise invites them into conflict. And if Paul or Letticia is being run by or is owned by John, then it most certainly can be considered GMA... especially if they were not present at the beginning and came from somewhere else or were just logged in.

The key word in any conflict is consent, which must be 100% clear and given. If it's not clear and it might be implied, I would encourage folks to err on the side of caution.

I hope I managed to explain this somewhat clearly.

--A. reg

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Originally posted by GMAndraste:
I hope I managed to explain this somewhat clearly.

--A.

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No wonder I am banned... I was under the impression I was playing a game for enjoyment and not worrying about how snert A is so seriously upset in a game that they have to justify their non roleplay actions.

Guess I am forcing roleplay by responding to their initiated self chosen actions hmm?

You have fun policing till everyone is gone Andraste. You do it well. You sure made it a project from what I heard from a friend to dot all the I's and cross all the T's behind my back in game. Why would of it been so hard to just ask a question or two or even let me know what was going on instead? I am really disappointed after learning about all the documentation and half truths that were made about me.

I sincerely hope you are less critical, more tolerant, and take a few moments to first talk to people before hanging them out to dry.

I came here to have fun and I really don't what motivates you. I thought you were turning a new leaf, but I guess that was a phase.

As you stated you have been working since you were 16 very hard. I don't know how that justifies being mean to real people.

I wish you the best in the future and do hope that maybe the few roleplayers in the lands don't disrupt too much of snerts or your time.

Have fun sorting through that convuluted twisting set of phrases called PvP,CvC policy or whatever. Make sure those non roleplaying customers preserve their rights to make Gemstone even blander and more boring than it has already become.

A tad bitter,

Darren H.

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"Can I kill you?" "Sure you can"

No wonder snerts get away with so much, they can't be dealt with unless you ask them nicely and they ok it.

Half the fun of RP is the spontaneity.

I certainly wouldn't want to know ahead of time someone is going to swing at me. Takes all the fun out of it.

"Ok, im gonna go hide and ambush you ok?"

snert runs three rooms south, spells up, stance def, unpresence, hide...

'lood
"excuse me, mr. Lincoln, yeah, do mind if I assasinate you?"
reg

GemStone III Player Policy: Abusive Or Disruptive Behavior

Because GemStone III is a multi-player game, there can sometimes be a conflict between an individual player's idea of entertainment and that of the majority of the players as a whole. In such situations, the majority will be given the greatest weight.

GemStone III is designed for the enjoyment of everyone, and as a general rule, any behavior which is specifically targeted to lessen that enjoyment for another player may be in violation of GemStone III policy. While what is disruptive is an extremely long list, it includes things such as harassment, sexual advances, and actions specifically targeted to be disruptive.

That seems to explain why consent in conflictual situations might be prudent, not to mention why consent is necessary for the bulk of Policy 4, too.

As myself and many others have said several times, what it boils down to is making sure that those you RP with are enjoying the exchange. And KNOWING when they are not.

Most people send up very visible signals when it's not fun for them. Usually this includes the words like no, stop, knock it off, desist, report, leave me alone, etc.

If someone doesn't want to play, it doesn't brand them a snert, and doesn't necessarily brand them a non-roleplayer. As Roberta, I believe, stated, you can't force someone to RP with you.

And while it's been said that you can force others to RP with you in other games (like Avalon and Inferno), I'd be more likely to bet that a more accurate statement would be that the you are REQUIRED to RP in the game, but you can still chose IF you wish to RP a scenario with someone.

If a game dictates that players must RP out every scenario they face, including those put upon them by other players, then what happens when another player sets up a situation that requires my player to act in a manner contrary to their personality?

My choices are to decline, ignore, walk away, log out, or continue to try to remain in character while not enjoying this imposition -- therefore, I'm not having fun.

By declining, walking away, ignoring or logging out... am I failing to roleplay the situation? Or removing myself from a player/scenario that doesn't have any consideration for my enjoyment?

Is this truly what happens in those other games?

--A. reg

In fact I think the entire concept is ludicrous.

You shouldn't HAVE to force anyone to RP in a roleplaying game. Roleplay is a given, or at least it should be.

What alternatives does a roleplayer have if they're faced with a myriad of people who refuse to roleplay? I can't speak on behalf of anyone else, but I took the easy way out. I started playing a roleplaying game instead.

Roberta
reg

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Originally posted by Desharei:
No Andraste, it wasn't me who said you can't force someone to RP.

In fact I think the entire concept is ludicrous.

You shouldn't HAVE to force anyone to RP in a roleplaying game. Roleplay is a given, or at least it should be.

What alternatives does a roleplayer have if they're faced with a myriad of people who refuse to roleplay? I can't speak on behalf of anyone else, but I took the easy way out. I started playing a roleplaying game instead.

Roberta

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Roberta,

Perhaps you and I are talking about two different issues. I'm not addressing whether it should be required that people RP here, since Policy already says this is a roleplaying game, and the clarified policy rolled in about three weeks ago spells this out.

I am addressing being forced to RP a situation that involves conflict you do not consent to, and you don't wish to continue.

While I can appreciate the fact that some people do enjoy playing characters who are aggressive and like to create conflict, the caveat is clear... simply insure yourself that those you RP conflict with are consenting, willing, AND enjoying it... or take the clear hints they are not and move on and don't risk being reported for harassment.

I've said this before and I will say it again... some people depending on their backgrounds or history do NOT feel comfortable with conflict (between people). That doesn't mean they should be required to deal with it because this is a roleplaying game. It simply means find like-minded people to play with and want to RP conflict.

--A. reg

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Originally posted by GMAndraste:
I've said this before and I will say it again... some people depending on their backgrounds or history do NOT feel comfortable with conflict (between people). That doesn't mean they should be required to deal with it because this is a roleplaying game. It simply means find like-minded people to play with and want to RP conflict.

--A.

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I agree with you on this point, Andraste. I feel comfortable with my ability to verbally spar in a conflict, but I would prefer not to be around it, not for my entertainment, unless *I* CHOOSE to be.

If someone insists on involving me in it and my requests to stop go unheeded, you're darned tooting I'm going to seek assistance from the management of the game.

That doesn't mean I am not a roleplayer and am not in a roleplaying game, it means the policies of the game allow me the freedom to decide if I want to be involved in another person's conflict.

If I am out on a date and the man I am with attempts to rape me and ignores my requests to stop because it's his form of entertainment, *I* am not the bad person because I chose not to participate and reported him to the authorities.

~Sayrena reg

Let's say Bestatte's still around, and she walks up to Bleeds. Now, Bleeds has earned the right to be bowed to, and called Highlord. So ole Bessie says, "Morning Bleeds, what's all this nonsense about you protecting empaths? What are you protecting them from anyway? Themselves?" and she smirks.

Bleeds might say, "You might want to reconsider how you address me, child." And Bes continues on her taunting - in character, but still taunting. Bleeds becomes annoyed, and says, "If you continue like this, I'll remove your tongue and wrap it around your throat."

AT THIS VERY MOMENT...I, the player, have two options. I can end the conflict, or I can consent to it. Ending it can be done in several ways. Bes can slink away embarrassed, or she could grin, bow to him, and tell him perhaps another day, you get the picture. Or she can just keep at it. If she keeps at it, Bleeds has every right in the world to knock her head off. Why? Because he warned her he was going to if she didn't chill out.

He put the ball in her court.

Conflict should be like this in all situations. If you piss someone off, you MUST be prepared to pay the consequences. Conversely, if you let someone know they're pissing you off and they back down, you MUST accept this and not continue to persue it.

The only way this wouldn't work, is if it isn't being roleplayed, if the player is taking things personally and doesn't want to "play the game."

And if it's happening enough to warrant so many posts on these boards, the "other" boards, the official boards, to have people make up websites just for the occasion, then there is something inherently wrong.

Roberta

[This message has been edited by Desharei (edited 09-06-2001).] reg

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Most people send up very visible signals when it's not fun for them. Usually this includes the words like no, stop, knock it off, desist, report, leave me alone, etc.

--A.[/B]

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Interesting quote, here. I was directly involved with you, Andraste, in a situation like this before. I asked the person, to stop, desist, perish, etc., and then asked for GM assistance before I knocked the snot out of them. Guess what? GM's (that would be YOU and one other person) said they could not be involved in that issue for some odd reason. I immediately ripped one of the limbs off the person, and guess what, instant GM involvement. Interesting, no? (No, I did not get a warning, but I got a severe lecture in front of the person.)

This goes back to the same scenario again, who decides when who is role-playing and who is not, you just described why you as GM's decide that people are OOC. Yet, you yourself, were a participant in this situation. Could you please clarify those rules one more time? I still don't find them understandable.

Either do -not- allow people to cast offensive spells, or do -not- get involved in player activity and pick sides.

How many times do we really need to go over this?

This was how the heroes/heroines of the past were made. The old helped out the young in these situations. If you were young, you either ran or sought help? Now, we just whine to a GM and one comes running to the rescue, but what side do they take? We're even taking a chance by reporting that the side won't be ours. This is called fairness?

Technically speaking, by your version, -A-, we need to get the permission of at least 3 Senior GM's, David and Melissa. After 9 months, if they have responded to the e-mail at all, and approved this, we may now continue with our role-playing scene. Anyone getting the irony in this?

Keep speaking, I'll keep listening and I'll also keep shaking my head.

Celestine reg

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Originally posted by Desharei:
Bleeds might say, "You might want to reconsider how you address me, child." And Bes continues on her taunting - in character, but still taunting. Bleeds becomes annoyed, and says, "If you continue like this, I'll remove your tongue and wrap it around your throat."

AT THIS VERY MOMENT...I, the player, have two options. I can end the conflict, or I can consent to it. Ending it can be done in several ways. Bes can slink away embarrassed, or she could grin, bow to him, and tell him perhaps another day, you get the picture. Or she can just keep at it. If she keeps at it, Bleeds has every right in the world to knock her head off. Why? Because he warned her he was going to if she didn't chill out.

He put the ball in her court.

Conflict should be like this in all situations. If you piss someone off, you MUST be prepared to pay the consequences. Conversely, if you let someone know they're pissing you off and you back down, they MUST accept this and not continue to persue it.

Roberta

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Andraste does not understand this Roberta.

She thinks this is forcing someone to roleplay with you. It's called making someone responsible for their actions and not allowing them to say or do something to your character first and then if you do warn them in character as in the above example they then in turn say they will report you and say you would be harassing them.

Andraste's method rewards the snert and maximizes revenue because people like Bleeds will for awhile weather the snerts and stay until one day they get fed up of this set up and either leave out of frustration or get banned because GM's are tired of all the incidents that get reported by snerts "not having fun".

Andraste please explain to all of us how we force RP when someone insults our character, lies about what he or she does, or takes RP'd action in the form of slaps, kisses, hugs etc. and then we roleplay our character to tell that person to cease that activity or something will be done?

Walk away and let the snerts continue to impact the roleplay environment with their actions in a roleplay game and erode our character's personality because out of fear of being "disruptive"?

OR should we constantly jam up all the hosts and GM's time with assists and reports anytime our character faces a conflict in game to make sure it is AOK before doing anything that COULD be taken wrong.

There is NO way to ASSURE when people (the player behind the character) is upset unless they state OOC that they do not enjoy the interaction. Characters can say no, please stop, etc all the time. Where do you draw the line between what is being said is ooc player's desire or the character? Most of the time no one states clearly to another what their desires are. Most of the time they themselves instigated the action and then conveniently whisper do not harass me after the fact.

The catch 22 of this scenario, trust me it has burned me many times, is once you get that message and assist about it the GM's do not see the original Snert behavior and further frustrate you by saying "Ignore this person in the future, report if you feel something might happen etc".

Is this the sort of game you want to really support? Not my idea of fun where snerts who do some roleplay and then when they don't like it after directly ruining your character's reputation run to staff.

Sorry, but it should be the other way around. The game should by basic design support people who stay in character and discipline those who choose to only selectively rp when it benefits them and not hide behind cries of harassment when they don't want their character to face a consequence.

Darren H.

reg

I wanted to comment on this snippet from policy.

Andraste you have in the past assumed that people automatically know by some magical means that they are willfully choosing to target another player to lessen their enjoyment.

How do we as the players know this without the other player stating so?

How do we as the players define a character when many people roleplay something set up where if we roleplay back and react we face a player who will state they do not enjoy it?

How do we explain to staff that we as mature adult people do NOT target people to lessen their enjoyment, but GM's have this mind reading ability to know what really is our intention? Wouldn't it be logical to assume in a roleplaying game that things done are roleplay and not some ooc desire? To me it would but it seems I am a minority.

The policy also states the MAJORITY will be supported in all situations. And designed for the enjoyment of everyone. You can't design a game that way. You can't please everyone and maintain any semblance of game design integrity.

Ignoring or telling people not to interact in a roleplay game is a direct admission that the policy is eroding the game's foundations.

Darren H.

reg

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Originally posted by Hiway:
Andraste you have in the past assumed that people automatically know by some magical means that they are willfully choosing to target another player to lessen their enjoyment.

How do we as the players know this without the other player stating so?

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I think the point is that when someone is telling you to leave them alone and that they're not interested in roleplaying with you that you should LEAVE THEM ALONE. Most people will be pretty vocal about it. I know I always am when someone is bugging me and I want them to stop.

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Originally posted by Hiway:
How do we as the players define a character when many people roleplay something set up where if we roleplay back and react we face a player who will state they do not enjoy it?

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If someone starts a conflict with you and doesn't like your response to it, tough. Cover your arse by firing off a report that says "Soandso has been harrassing me for the last 10 minutes, ignoring my requests to stop so I'm going to stun him/her" and go for it. Chances are that if you're dealing with a snert here, he/she will report the moment you attack and make you look like the bad guy.

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[B]How do we explain to staff that we as mature adult people do NOT target people to lessen their enjoyment, but GM's have this mind reading ability to know what really is our intention? Wouldn't it be logical to assume in a roleplaying game that things done are roleplay and not some ooc desire? To me it would but it seems I am a minority.[B]

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If someone is reporting and telling the GMs that you're lessening their enjoyment of the game then that's all the info they have. They'll then look in to the situation and make decisions based on what they see.

So much BS is done in the name of "roleplay." A good roleplayer knows where the lines are. You CAN roleplay a conflictual character without racking up the warnings and CL time. One I can think of off the top of my head is Armaxis.

The thing is, there are so many poor roleplayers out there who go around blasting people for even the slightest comment then say they did it all for "roleplay" and that no one else in this stupid game roleplays, etc etc etc. Work within the boundaries. Keep other people's feelings and thoughts in mind when you're out being "evil" or whatever it is that you're trying to RP.

reg

'lood reg

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Originally posted by Desharei:
Let's say Bestatte's still around, and she walks up to Bleeds. Now, Bleeds has earned the right to be bowed to, and called Highlord. So ole Bessie says, "Morning Bleeds, what's all this nonsense about you protecting empaths? What are you protecting them from anyway? Themselves?" and she smirks.

Bleeds might say, "You might want to reconsider how you address me, child." And Bes continues on her taunting - in character, but still taunting. Bleeds becomes annoyed, and says, "If you continue like this, I'll remove your tongue and wrap it around your throat."

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The story continues as follows:

Bestatte says "if you attack me, I'll report you"

To remain IC, Bleeds then has to play ignorant as to what the OOC reference for Report was - and say something like "Report? That some kind of evaluation? I believe I deserve straight A's for certain."

Bestatte then replies "Leave the area you moron - you touch me and I'll get a GM to come in and get you in trouble for abusing your powers for picking on younger people. Now begone!"

etc
etc
etc

Eventually, Bleeds can say "Insult me one more time by calling me a derogatory name and I'll ensure that you aren't able to speak for a while"

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Zapping twits for OOC comments like GM, Report, etc. is frowned upon. So, Bleeds has to wait to give the twit enough rope to hang himself.

I find this ridiculous. Bestatte remains IC just long enough to pick a fight - and since Bleeds doesn't want to risk getting a warning (since he actually has something to lose by getting in trouble), he has to go to extraordinary lengths to check, double check, and triple check to make sure that he's covered before he drills the person so that when a GM gets involved, he's ok.

Especially considering that its blatantly obvious that the twit specifically went, and picked a fight with him in the first place - and they ultimately got what they deserved.

Persons that are IC long enough to cause trouble, then conveniently go OOC to get themselves out of a situation they don't like, is rampant because they know that they can simply Report, and get a GM to intervene for most situations.

[This message has been edited by Magister (edited 09-06-2001).] reg

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If someone starts a conflict with you and doesn't like your response to it, tough. Cover your arse by firing off a report that says "Soandso has been harrassing me for the last 10 minutes, ignoring my requests to stop so I'm going to stun him/her" and go for it. Chances are that if you're dealing with a snert here, he/she will report the moment you attack and make you look like the bad guy.

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An old story, but a perfect example of how this does NOT work:

Bestatte shows up at the Kiramon mines on Teras. She sees a bunch of script-resting barely level 20 newcomers at the gate, nods, and goes in. First room inside there's a whole bunch of empty boxes. Now remember there ARE no boxes for treasures at the kiramon mines - I'm guessing they brought them with them from the Landing. There are also no trash bins, afterall, it's a mine, not a place one would expect to see any trash.

So she drags them out and plunks them down in front of the people, and asks who left them there. No response. She tells them they should bring their trash to a bin instead of leaving it all over the place. No response, except one of them smirked.

Another one comes out of hiding and chuckles at Bes. She arches an eyebrow - continuing to BE Bestatte...and asks if something is amusing the person about leaving trash where people can trip over it. A very short "i can do wut i want" diatribe ensues, and she tells them to get their trash to a bin. They ask who the heck she thinks she is. At the time, she was in her lower level 70's, just visiting the mines for nostalgia's sake. She was also at the time a Priestess of the Dhe'nar, and a very haughty dark elf. So she introduced herself. Got a lot of snickering, and the people refused to move their trash.

She warned them if they didn't pick it up she'd implode and get rid of it herself.

They told her again they did what they wanted and she didn't have the right to stop them. I have no idea if they were being in character, or if they were "being" their players talking to my player. It seemed like the latter.

So in any case, I REPORTED that I was RPing Bestatte being very annoyed with what she considered her old stomping grounds being turned into a trash heap. I reported it a second time. No response either time.

I figured, well if the staff had an objection they'd let me know, so I warned them one more time, and then imploded. Two of them died. One ended up injured. One "rang" back to town, and another one just sat there totally oblivious and didn't get hurt in the implosion. I checked

I ring back to town (since when you implode, anything dead ends up at the gate), see that the dead people are being cared for, and move south. Someone (can't remember who now, it's been awhile) ambushed me from hiding. It was not one of the people who were at the mines. He decided to take revenge for the people who were dumb enough to ignore the IN character warnings.

*I* ended up in the consultation lounge. I got a slap on the wrist from the GM, and had to promise not to implode the mines again.

I have no idea what happened to the guy who ambushed me, but he had nothing to do with the incident. At least, his character didn't. Maybe he was multiaccounting and I killed his other character. I have no idea.

The moral of the story is, reporting can be a total waste of time. If it was a problem, the GMs should've said so when I reported TWICE in advance to warn them I was about to do something drastic.

The snerts who didn't want to "play the game" as far as I know got no reprimand for being disruptive to MY roleplay by refusing to RP or move along elsewhere. It seems *I* was disrupting their right NOT to roleplay - by roleplaying - in a roleplaying game. SHAME on me.

Roberta
reg

Sonic reg

I understand your point about REPORT, but in my opinion the GMs shouldn't have to tell you not to implode a group of people just because they didn't pick up a few boxes. You're lucky you got off with only a slap on the wrist (IMO). reg

Actually, I have explained it, over and over and over again. Go back and read my posts. Or, go back and read NOI's fairly lengthy post towards the bottom of page 2 of this thread. NOI does a very good job of explaining it.

To those quick to take up Darren's side (or jump on the Let's Attack Andraste Bandwagon) without knowing the FULL history and details behind the situation... keep operating from the assumptions and one-sided information, I'll join Celestine in shaking my head.

As for what works and what doesn't work... well, what USED TO work here doesn't work anymore.

Why? Because the Lords and Ladies and Legends who used to teach the young about respect here, through lessons, did so with roleplaying means before they simply resorted to a knee-jerk reaction and used brute force. Today's so-called "lesson-teachers" aren't roleplaying, they're hiding behind a facade of their title and/or level and use PvP to deal with situations and conflict.

They teach nothing other than perhaps one of two things: That it's okay to be a snert and they'll get their (older) snert friends (or other characters) to respond... or they'll simply wait until someday when they get old enough to respond in kind and repay the debt, or treat other young similarly.

I know this to be true from watching both sides of a situation/conflict unfold, and the results that come from it when it's not resolved to one party's satisfaction.

What we do have and do enforce here DOES work, apparently, since more than 98% of the current player base doesn't get warnings, doesn't get pulled into a Consultation Lounge, doesn't get locked out, and doesn't repeatedly have to be spoken to by multiple GMs about similar scenarios.

The numbers seem to speak for themselves. If it wasn't so, then I suspect Melissa, Kennesaw, Krash, and Krilcan would be coming up with new methods to combat snertism. Abiding by and using policy works, and the recent clarification posted a few weeks ago has incorporated the same actions GMs have been taking over the last year or two in an effort to keep the snert population under control.

If you aren't a snert, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

--A. reg

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Originally posted by Desharei:
During this situation, at any point up to the cast itself, they could have joined me and not gotten hurt. My group was opened, nothing was preventing them. Not a single one of them even tried.

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Ok...

So I can go to TSC and tell everyone there that what they're doing is annoying to me. Then I can threaten to implode them. And if they choose not to join me, sucks to be them? reg

My response was that it isn't necessarily true, because twice I reported what I was intending to do, twice my reports went unanswered, and only several minutes later after *I* was reported by someone did the staff take any action.

If the staff was so set against my actions, they had ample time to tell me to stop. If I didn't care what they thought, I wouldn't have reported in the first place.

In addition, the GM who dealt with me in his room (not the consultation lounge) agreed that the situation was handled appropriately, and only because two characters died as a result was he required to tell me not to do it again. That, and the GM's knowledge of my character and her personality in the game and my understanding of the rules, is also why I didn't get a warning.

My point is, in summary, that reports do not always get addressed, and as such you have no way of knowing if they'll save you even if you follow the rules to a "T."

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reg

Thanks for all the input from everyone. I will be closing the thread now since the issue was resolved.

edge reg