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Well. Ask Wolfjager why he got armor padded by Aldrek above normal amounts and didn't get charged Host points for it. It didn't even get flagged. Whenever a Mod removes a post of mine. I am going to give some details on their corruption. I am not going to tell you who Wolfjager ingame character is. But I am sure lots of you can find out.

Dear Edgeleaf,

Your message has been removed from the Gemstone III message board for being
disruptive and encouraging other people to flame. I understand that the
game can be frustrating at times and we do encourage constructive criticisms
that will benefit everyone. But posting attacks against GM's on our boards
does not help you get your problems answered and detracts from everyone's
enjoyment of the message areas. If you have a complaint, we encourage you
to offer us constructive criticism, but we need specifics.

Its important to us that you understand why this kind of posting is not
acceptable and if you feel unclear about the guidelines for posting in the
Gemstone III message board, please read the 10 "hints" for posting that are
prominently displayed on our website. Our guidelines specifically request
that members "count to 10" and "be kind" when posting. If you have any
questions about my action in removing your message, please don't hesitate to
email me so we can clarify the issue to your satisfaction.

A copy of your post follows

Sincerely,

Wolfjager

Category Discussions with Simutronics (5)
Topic Suggestions, Comments and Concerns (2)
Message Re: E-bay Sales (61289)
By BRADLEYEDGE@PLAY.NET
On Jun 17, 2001 at 11:16

Just becasue it's on ebay. Doesn't been it's real. Give you some examples.

I 150th level rogue sold on there. Got a bid of 1750. Money was sent but no
character existed. Paypal refunded their money. But now paypal doesn't cover
untangiable items anymore.

Another example:

A certain rogue was sold not so long ago. Person sent the check. Check was
cashed but no character was ever transferred. The person had to get a lawyer
to file fraud charges.

Now who is to say. I get your description. Getting someone stats and
training isn't really hard either. Post it all on ebay for sale. Easy to get
someone banned that way. Now how can you really prove that those characters
truely exist? Given anything. So, these little accusations are stupid.

Now for the big question. Why should Simutronics really care? Why should
they ban paying customers? Why should they try and push business away? Why
should they invest in legal fees and such to prevent something that only
helps them get more customers? Don't say the intregeting of the game either.

Now lets look at the real harmful things in the lands. GM corruption does
more then anything else to ruin the lands. I have reported certain
custommade items. But yet, they do nothing to those people. But yet they ban
everyone for abusing a bug. That is by far worse then any bug in the lands.

Edgeleaf
reg

-John...anti annything a GM does.

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www.eraver.net reg

Details on the rogue that was paid for via check:

Since the gemstone character was indeed a virtual/intangible item, the case was solely
"breach of contract". The seller was a minor and could not be prosecuted for "breach of contract", as no minor can hold a legally binding contract. The charges were dropped before they made it to court.

Details on the rogue that was paid for via paypal:

The seller created the paypal account under a false name and requested payment via a direct deposit. The paypal account was closed as soon as the direct deposit had cleared, and at that point, closed paypal accounts were removed from all paypal records. The buyer never found the true identity of the seller, and since the seller pretty much laughed in Paypal's face and told them to "f*ck off", when they e-mailed his anonymous e-mail account, requesting the details about the transaction that was disputed by the buyer, paypal did refund the buyers money, and then promptly changed several policies to reduce the risk of such an event happening again.

-Tandrek reg

Because of your violations of Simutronics' Message Board TAC your ID and
all characters attached have been suspended from posting on Simutronics'
Message Boards for a period of at least 30 days. This suspension of
privileges applies to all accounts that are owned or played by you as
well. Using another account to circumvent this suspension will result in
that account's board privileges being suspended, as well as the original
suspension time being restarted from the day the second account is suspended.

Reason for loss of posting privileges: Repeated Violations of Message
Board TAC

I strongly urge you to read our game specific Terms and Conditions file
available via our POLICY link. I also urge you to read the Simutronics
Terms of Service available in the same area. Additionally, you should read
our Message Boards Terms and Conditions via the link located on the board
launch page. By violating these policies, you risk not only lockout from
this game, but from the entire Simutronics service.

If at the end of the suspension period you wish to be allowed access to the
Message Boards once more, you can write to Feedback at
Lockout@simutronics.com, stating that you have read and agree to abide by
our policies. We will review the situation at that time.

If you have any questions, you may write to me at the above address, and we
will do our best to answer you in a timely fashion.

Respectfully,

GM Daecir
Simutronics Lockout

(If replying to this letter, please include the full text of our prior
correspondence.)
GM Daecir
Simutronics Feedback

(If replying to this letter, please include the full text of our prior
correspondence.)

edge
reg

-John

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Lord Deprav reg

Nietslaf

[This message has been edited by Buckwheet (edited 06-21-2001).] reg

It does "not" tell you exactly why your post was disruptive or flamtory by any means. And if you email back to them asking them to be more specific you don't get a reply or you get a vague reply back.

Here's an example from Wolfjager, when I emailed him asking him why? I had redone the post a half a dozen times trying to get a Staffer to reply about how they enforce policy and the variances of how they do so.

>>>>Cut and paste to follow<<<<<

Subj: Re: HEINDEL 10th TAC WARNING 20010613
Date: 6/13/01 7:20:35 PM Mountain Daylight Time
From: GSWolfja@twcny.rr.com (Wolfjager)
To: JLLarcom@aol.com

Actually, re-read it. The reason is there.

"But posting what another monitor pulled on our boards does not help you get
your problems answered "

Wolfjager

<<<< end of cut and paste<<<

As you see he didn't point out why, he replied in a vague way. If your enforcing policy in game or on the bbs, lets be specific and say exactly "What" in a post or in the game was the disruption.

I have a a few dozen emails from staff and its always the canned email reply or a reply like the one above.

You can you improve your actions if they won't come clear as to what your doing exactly wrong.

I almost have Wolfjager figured out as a side note, he made some remarks about himself on the bbs that sort of hinted at who he is.

If someone knows actually who he is, email at jllarcom@aol.com. Save me the time of digging. I'm slightly curious as to his identity.

Jim/Celtar

p.s: As to Celtic/Mahegh..well Alan is a egostistical, drama queen of the highest sort and now that I know he is Mahegh my past dealings with Mahegh become oh so clear. I actually called him out on being staff over a year ago and he denied it. I had a sneaky feeling he was back then. He is not the improvement to the game that someone like
Bhamma or Khaladon is. Both of them are fine examples of good add's to SIMU staff. Alan is more like Melissa, petty, immature and prone
to drama and not professional. An error on SIMU's part bringing him on board.

reg

My first post on these boards...

But a question: are you sure Celtic/Alan is also Mahegh? Reason I ask is I went to my first SimuCon this year with a friend (also her first) and we were checking out the GMs to see who was who, etc. I knew Celtic/Alan by sight, but at one point my friend pointed out Mahegh to me...and it wasn't Alan. Granted I didn't see the person's name badge but I have to assume she did and was therefore able to point him out. So I'm not sure that they are indeed one and the same.

GG reg

That's Celtic/Mahegh. reg

Roberta
reg

God, this is such a boring game. Yes I agree to abide by your rules and have read policy so many times that I have it memorized practically. I also never noticed that you removed the complaints from the section I was posting in. So I understand we are not allowed to complain about the GMs or poor customer service.

I Edgeleaf promise not to post anymore complaints on the official boards anymore.

Do you enjoy these stupid games? So sorry for missing that I had to state what you wanted me to state....Next time hold my hand and walk me through it please.

Also, can I get replies for all the emails I have sent in previously letting me know that you actually got them? The ones that I sent in info on dirty dealings. Hope they didn't just POOOF!

I will stop now and go to sleep.

edge

>From: Feedback Department <lockout@simutronics.com>
>To: "Bradley Edge" <lrdedgeleaf@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Why did this deserve a 30 day ban?
>Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:22:23 -0500
>
>At 09:53 PM 7/31/01 +0000, you wrote:
>>Still waiting to have my posting privileges renewed. Has been a
>>while
>>since I requested it.
>>
>>Account: XXXXXXX and XXXXXXX
>>
>>Edgeleaf
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
>>http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
>
>As stated in the last correspondence this office sent to you:
>
>"If at the end of the suspension period you wish to be allowed
>access to
>the Message Boards once more, you can write to Feedback at
>Lockout@simutronics.com, stating that you have read and agree to
>abide by
>our policies. We will review the situation at that time."
>
>Respectfully,
>
>
>GM Daecir
>Simutronics Lockout
>
>(If replying to this letter, please include the full text of our
>prior
>correspondence.)
reg

Respectfully,

GM Daecir
Simutronics Lockout

(If replying to this letter, please include the full text of our prior
correspondence.)
reg

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Originally posted by edge:
Feel free to write to me again with an appeal when you are serious about
regaining your privileges. Your complaints about our staff have been
forwarded to the Product Manager for GemStone III, she will handle them
appropriately.

Respectfully,

GM Daecir
Simutronics Lockout

(If replying to this letter, please include the full text of our prior
correspondence.)

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Is it me or have all the GM's in the past and present that have run the Lockout department had some serious personal problems? It seems like their agendas are to personally reak havoc on all the bullies that picked on them and beat them up in high-school and called them nerds b/c they wanted to go home and play D&D? I think it's hilarious...

1. Sayzor (No comment needed)

2. Reniko (Someone killed his cat I think and he's been mad every since)

3. Daecir (Don't know much about him/her yet) reg

quote:

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Originally posted by JustLilOlMe:
Is it me or have all the GM's in the past and present that have run the Lockout department had some serious personal problems

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[This message has been edited by Ellarze (edited 08-03-2001).] reg

Guess he is just making job security for himself...heh. But I got so many emails! LOOK! I am overworked!

Creating work is such a good thing.

Expecting me to be happy about being suspended for 30 days from the boards. Not A good thing.

I swear! I stopped smoking crack yesterday!

edge

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But what do I know. We should all be allowed to run rampant and act like idiotic pre-teen punks. reg

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Asmodea Drey'Haus reg

Is that the feedback you are all saying is rude, sarcastic, and condescending?

Looks perfectly fine to me. I agree with Edge, the Feedback guy's response was the rude one. "Reply back with these specific words and we might let you back in." reg

I Edgeleaf promise not to post anymore complaints on the official boards anymore.

Do you enjoy these stupid games? So sorry for missing that I had to state what you wanted me to state....Next time hold my hand and walk me through it please.

Also, can I get replies for all the emails I have sent in previously letting me know that you actually got them? The ones that I sent in info on dirty dealings. Hope they didn't just POOOF!

I will stop now and go to sleep.

edge

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THAT would be the condecending letter.

Asmodea Drey'Haus reg

Yeah, that one is bad. Heh. reg

Must be speaking for yourself.....

edge

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I refuse to do that of course, since I felt that the bb monitors were inconstant and unhelpful when I requested "what" part of my posts asking the original question I was querying was flame like or disruptive.
::Shrugs::

Add to that I decided tonight that I was tired of waiting on Alan/Celtic/Mahegh to finish the enchantment I paid for three years ago. Since Alan doesn't respond when I IM him, I decided to assist. I just wanted the blade I gave Celtic and the silvers back.

GM Brauden basically told me I had to email Alan and ask again. Sorry I really don't want anything to do with Alan anymore. And I think I've been patient waiting three years for this to be done.

Add to that enchanting's changed and I doubt he'll ever do the bloody thing. I just want the blade and silvers back..bah.

My parting words to Brauden were..something to the effect of does SIMU make it a habit of hiring scammers. Yeah I'm bitter.

I even popped up in IMs since I know Brauden had spoken to Alan, to see if Alan would indeed IM me. He's such a arrogant, self centered drama queen that I didn't think he would. And I was right. Oh well.

Jim/Celtar reg

That whole Celtic becoming a GM seems so shady in my book. You put trust\power into someone that is motivated by personal greed.

Make no sense....

edge reg

People are people, the sun will rise tommorow, and in every system you will find corruption. GS3 is no exception to the rule, I demand anyone to nasay such.

How deep the corruption goes and how wide spread it is, how it affects my character, and how it affects me as a customer are what matter to me.

When I saw certain in game merchants having sit down dinners with certain persons in high positions at Simutronics, I was appalled. When I heard that such and such a GM talks bad about such and such a player, ...so what?

I would like to make mention at this time that if ANYONE thinks that players of long standing are not aware of the depth of corruption that can and DOES exist, then they are only fooling themselves.

Something else that really TICKS me off is when a person I know who is a hard working staffer and never, ever breaks policy, is accused of impropriety.

The undercurrent of corruption that lurks about the game distresses me, but not unduly so. Only when someone reminds me about a certain individual(s) who are ALSO hosts/sages/gms that happen to beat everyone else to every single merchant/event/special invasion etc etc., I do get truly infuriated.

I do not want, nor wish to know in advance about something that is supposed to be secret is coming. In fact, I despise the calendar that tells of merchants and where they will be.

Returning from my merchant tangent.....

How does it affect my character when characters who have influence or "special powers" can get things that I cannot or never have a chance to? Very little. Why is this important to me? Game integrity!

When I recently screwed up and broke policy in a severe way, I was sick, very ill, and in my frame of mind, my disgust at how others can get anything at almost anytime most assuredly had a bearing on me not returning what was not mine. This neither excuses my actions nor should it, it does however blatantly point out some severe frustration over the differences between those who have and those who have not!

Have I personally witnessed GM favoritism and such? Yes.

Have I witnessed GMs doing things or saying things that they should most assuredly not? Yes. (in fact, i've stood behind a few while looking over their shoulders as they bragged about what they could do to us "peons")

Because of my "fame" have I felt as if I received more than is my due? Oddly enough, at times, yes.

Because of my "fame" have I felt as if some GMs treat me like I'm a leper? Oddly enough, yes (lol).

Folks, the corruption as we have chosen to call it, is there, how deep it is, and how much we choose to make a deal of it is entirely up to us.

Should we just turn a blind eye to what we know is out there just to have a much less annoyed existance? Absolutely not.

If you suspect corruption from a gm, or see them doing something, or know of them doing things they shouldn't, by ALL means, turn them in to the proper authority.

Just make sure that yer pretty dern clean before you start pointy at poeople you claim are dirty!

So say I. Take it as you will.

-Morandas

reg

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When I saw certain in game merchants having sit down dinners with certain persons
in high positions at Simutronics, I was appalled.

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Something else that really TICKS me off is when a person I know who is a hard
working staffer and never, ever breaks policy, is accused of impropriety.

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You're appalled if a player has dinner with a GM.. yet you get angry if a 'friend' staffer of yours is accused of impropriety? So, it's ok with you and you'll not jump on the 'favoritism' bandwagon as long as the player is eating with a GM friend of yours?

Hmmm.. lemme see..

I think at all future SimuCons, players need to go to one hotel and all staff members need to go to another hotel and never the twain shall meet. This should stop all the gossip!

Well, dag gone.. I just took all the fun out of SimuCons, didn't I?

('berta slept with them all.. I have picts!) reg

Merchants that deal with cash, in my opinion, are the worst people to have in the game. They are solely responsible for the ridiculously high prices on 'the best' items, character sales, and flooding the game with items like wearable, noncrumby, rechargable heroism, bravery, dex, self control, etc. They also routinely had access to a multitude of accounts. Had I gone to simucon, seeing cash merchants and GMs interacting would have appalled me as well.

While what they do doesn't break policy, I'm pretty confident saying that what they do is more harmful to GS than someone saying '[insert 4 letter vulgarity here]', but which person will get banned first?

Sonic

[This message has been edited by Alfador (edited 08-14-2001).] reg

-Morandas reg

I would love you to post these emails you mentioned that I sent you. I would love to see what you are talking about. If it's a hotmail account don't even talk to me. Anyone can make a name. I have received my own share of emails that were not to my liking. The amazing thing is I am still alive and breathing. I still have a family and I still have a healthy life.

And I could really care less if someone uses this name. I could be someone no one cares about as a name. It just doesn't matter. Repeat that ten times and call me in the morning. reg

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Originally posted by Morandas:
Ah, this wasn't at Simucon that I saw Gem Merch and gang seated with the queen of the product, but then, you assumed it was Simucon, didn't you. In fact, it wasn't any GemStone Gathering, but rather an industry gathering for software and hardware companies.

-Morandas

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Heya Morandas,

I'll assume you are talking about E3 in LA a while back. I didn't realize you were there! (Or maybe I did, but the beers had kicked in).

I'm not sure if that's "favoritism" or not though. I heard a good chunk of the conversation, and I don't think there was any "special treatment" being doled out. In fact, Ciston was talking about a couple of items that he had, and I can tell you they got neutered after Melissa and gang heard about them. A couple of others, Ciston and Wadsworth both actually pointed out as being unbalanced and asked why they were still that way. They also got changed.

Hell .. I was at that little get-together, and you don't see me of 10X blades of doom do you? I had half the Simu front office and L.A.-based GM's sitting in front of me .. why aren't I getting all the cool benefits?

Now .. I will say this. If I ever do get into hot water in the game, the one advantage I do have (as does anyone who attends a Con or gathering with GM-types at it). They know me as a person. We've lifted a beer or two. They know my attitude towards the game. I'd guess that there would probably be some additional "benefit of the doubt" ... but I'd expect that for any longtime player and contributor to the overall game environment.

.. but in all the years I've played Gemstone, I've yet to find out. Beleive it or not, you CAN play a nasty, mean Sorc and not end up with a Simu rap sheet a mile long! I have never gotten warned, banned or anything!

Why?

I'll bet it's favoritism! That's gotta be it!

:-)

-Prestius reg

I hope you do understand my drift though, the mere presence of four of the top five in game for cash merchanters sitting with her, and NOBODY else at the table for almost an hour sort of gave me quite a pause.

Mustve missed you in all the insanity <g>

-Mo reg

Those daisy-clad sorcerers are oh-sooooo "nasty", lol!

There's favortism in the game, yep. There's MANY things in the game...good and bad, but you just have to learn to deal with it. The more you worry about things, the less of a fun time you'll have.

I too, like P-boy, am glad that Simu got rid of the Gripes n Whines folder. Do you realize how many gosh darn freakin whiners there are in this game? I see people complaining about the littlest of things and it makes me laugh out of disbelief and pity because it's rediculous!

Play the game to do what you do. Consentrate on your having fun and don't worry about other people. The more you worry about what other people have and what you don't, then the more unhappier you'll get.

Other than Wadsworth's, Ciston's, and any other merchant's thoughts heard on the net, what exactly do they do to you? I bet you rarely, if ever, see them in-game. They ruin the game? How so? Whatever their antics may have supposedly caused, I bet you've never even known about it.

The thing that ticks me off most about the (official) boards is people are sheep. Ignorance is bliss. So many people don't know about many of the things in the game and they never would have known either. All of a sudden someone says something and they know find out something they had no idea about and something that never affected them before. Then all of a sudden they scream bloody murder about something they know nothing about which most of the times isn't even true in the first place. That's the thing that I dislike most about the people on the boards.

Bah humbug is how most people are on the boards, and I'll emphasize the "bah" due to everyone's sheepness.

- N reg

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Originally posted by Morandas:
Ahh Didn't see you there Prestius hehe.

-Mo

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Bah, Morandas -- I had no idea you were there. Wear a big, flashing sign or something next time. reg

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Originally posted by Pudgee:

Those daisy-clad sorcerers are oh-sooooo "nasty", lol!

- N

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::snort::

>Look Prestius

You see Prestius Elixius, Dark Elf Sorcerer. He appears to be in his 100's. He has a gleam in his eye, a dimple on his chin, and a chip on his shoulder.

He is holding a Black Sorcerer's Blade of Impending Doom encrusted with dark runes of essense filled blackness and a Black Implosion-Streaked Shield Carved with Symbols of Ultiamte Power.

He is wearing a Black Sorcerer's Cloak with bloody scenes of ultimate death and destruction on it that seems to draw the very essence of power from the very air it wafts through, a black long-coat trimmed in blood soaked entrails embroidered with a small "P", some dark black leathers studded with black runestones of magical death and moderate meanness, some black knee-high boots encrusted with the remains of his foes' eyeballs, a Staff of Orneryness capped with a skull of a shaman's first born child, a dark enruned pendant that radiates images of death from it's very existance.
He is currently dead.

Daisies indeed!

-Prestius

I put the "P" in bad alterations!

reg

Celtar reg

The point to my somewhat sarcastic post was in saying that noone can make assumptions simply based on who talks to who. Broad statements that are being made about people that attend such gatherings are starting to make quite a few folks leary about even attending ANY gathering.

And, my god, GS3Aura..do you really take that much note of me? I'm just one of many that has made it public that you harass anyone you disagree with. You know for a fact it's not a hotmail address, so please please knock it off. reg

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Originally posted by Siara:
No, Morandas, I didn't assume nor did I say it was at a SimuCon. I simply commented about future SimuCons since they are the largest gathering of GS players and GMs. And, it appears that you've made assumptions based soley on who you saw having supper with what GS Staff/GM.

The point to my somewhat sarcastic post was in saying that noone can make assumptions simply based on who talks to who. Broad statements that are being made about people that attend such gatherings are starting to make quite a few folks leary about even attending ANY gathering.

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If who I talk to, eat with, drink with, go out with, sleep with at any gathering, Con, etc., is going to automatically lead to "assumptions" about what is going on or being said, then I'll continue to find other things to keep me busy when those events roll around and continue to be a non-attendant at them.

As much as I like meeting people who share similar interests as me, I'll be damned if someone is going to label me or my behavior or my appearance based on their own prejudices, suspicions, paranoia, unfounded jibber-jabber, etc., just because I'm being sociable!

For all anyone knows, the conversation with merchants could have been to gain some insight about how wide spread it is, what the attraction seems to be, what might be an in-game solution to the economy, and other scenarios. Unless you were there at the table, then you don't really know... and shouldn't be putting specious gossip out there. How does that HELP anyone or anything? Answer - it doesn't.

Additionally, if someone is going to buy me a drink, sit with me at dinner or any other possible social encounters, and they think they're going to get some in-game favoritism for it, then they really don't know me.

Just my two cents on this really silly game of guessing.

--A. reg

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

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Originally posted by GMAndraste:
If who I talk to, eat with, drink with, go out with, sleep with at any gathering, Con, etc., is going to automatically lead to "assumptions" about what is going on or being said, then I'll continue to find other things to keep me busy when those events roll around and continue to be a non-attendant at them.

--A.

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As much as I'd like to say that gossip doesn't happen, we all know it does. Don't let it prevent you from coming to Simucon or Vegas or any of the other gatherings.

NOI

reg

I attended one SimuCon and it wasn't long after that, I heard not so gentle reminders of my weight. Now, honestly, you think I want to go to another one? I totally agree with Andraste. I'm quite sure that I can find something else to do during a SimuCon and stay home, look in the mirror and see for myself that I no longer have the body of a 19 year old..and it won't cost me a cent.

I've got loved ones that are GMs/Hosts/Sages. Folks that I've played this game with for years. With the way things are going, they'll be afraid to even talk with old friends, let alone, goddess forbid, have dinner with them.

I know quite a few people that are talking about staying away from gatherings because of this very thing. I'm with you, Andraste, it just isn't worth it. reg

Sitting at a table in the bar is the Town Sheriff and four known felons who practice their art daily. Everyone seems in good cheer, the sherrif is not arresting the felons.
Man Walks out of the bar in utter confusion.

(albeit this is a sharply skewed analogy, it is meant as such to glaringly demonstrate my point for those who might not have caught it the first time)

When I ****mentioned**** this whole thing about a sit down, it was a small line in a giant post. Taken in context, this line is there to augment and further the fluid discussion that was taking place.

When you take something out of context, when you rest solely on a point because it sticks in your craw, and when you just plain disagree, that doesnt mean that you are neccesarily right. You COULD be right, but you COULD be wrong.

I am not willing nor have ever been willing to state that what went on that table was nefarious, I DO however feel that in was IMHO shocking to myself. I have not as yet stated that I know for a fact **anything** that took place there, since i was not sitting there. Therefore not a single one of us can with a certainty can say that what went on was either good or bad. When one upholds the law, one is expected to behave and hold oneself to an extreme martial position. When one is already being scrutinized for claims, (quite likely false claims), of impropriety...one should endeavor to not give your opponents/detractors any ammunition to use against you.

As with everyone else, I am allowed my own opinion, just please.....don't slice and dice my opinion and extract a single point to attack.

-Morandas reg

Siara, very few players have dealt with more harrassment and evil gossip than I have.

I KNOW how it feels. Believe me.

[This message has been edited by NoOneImportant (edited 08-18-2001).] reg

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Originally posted by Morandas:
As with everyone else, I am allowed my own opinion, just please.....don't slice and dice my opinion and extract a single point to attack.

-Morandas

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Perhaps that is the only one part of your post that some people did not agree with. I personally see nothing wrong with Melissa having a meal and discussing the GemStone economy with Ciston, Wadsworth, Giantphang and whoever else was there.

Though many people may not LIKE cash sales and merchanting, it is NOT against policy. So the felons/sheriff analogy really doesn't work. Just because you don't like what they're doing doesn't make it a bannable (arrestable) offense. Many people don't LIKE it. I know I don't. That's a personal opinion.

Besides, those merchants know more about the items in GS and the economy than pretty much anyone else in game. Perhaps Melissa was picking their brains, getting ideas on how to fix things and make them better. I really see nothing wrong with that. reg