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Soap

Heh, someone asked me "Can you remove the Lord in the title High Lord and just make it say High Kranar."

I responded by saying "I'm not on crack you know."

And then I got this...

An old huntress on her way to provide for her family overhears what is said. She gasps with disgust while quickly grabbing a bar of lye soap from her backpack.

The huntress says, "Kranar, I can't believe you weren't brought up with better manners than that. Maybe this will teach you a lesson!"

She then promptly washes your mouth out with the soap and continues on her way.


The gods have instructed their assistant, the old woman, to wash your mouth out with soap. What you are saying in no way adds to the experience of the game but often offends other players. You are NOT getting an official warning at this time but rather a friendly reminder to please watch what and how you say things.

Only you will know of having your mouth washed out therefore there is no need to tell anyone else unless you wish to. Please do try to watch what you say.

SEND[Khaladon] Lets drop the drug references. reg

Not to mention OOG references... reg
I actually got yelled at by Andraste the other day for saying '' sup ''. Oviously short for what's up. The GM's are goin too far if you ask me. I remember when i was just a young lad about 4 years ago, I would sing songs from todays times and talk out of character to people, many people did. I never got yelled at or soaped. It's ok that the GM's cracked down on it alittle but geez. reg
I said don't rape raise once. Then I got told the word was to graphic...But brainmatter spilling out isn't?

edge reg

I liked Khaladon better when he was known as Avantos.

He's still has more of a head on his shoulders than the other GMs seem to have though.

thx reg

Oh this isn't a bash to Khaladon or anything, I think Khaladon is one of the better GMs out there and made an excellent liason. Made me wish he was a wizard.

One thing however that I notice is that with the growing number of GMs comes the growing number of policy differentiations. Each GM has their own interpretation of the policy and with 200+ GMs, it's kind of rediculous how many different ways they look at it.

With this said, you can pretty darn well predict that GS will become more and more of a "big brother" type game, where GMs will be there to catch you of any mistake you may make.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

If you thought that "What's up?", or the abbreviation "sup" is appropriate for Gemstone3, I will suggest reading a book. Numerous titles exist, from J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings to more contemporary books.

In any faithful representation of a medievel fantasy realm, the phrase "sup" would be anachronous.

It's good to see that GMs are catching references to crack, and hopefully other contemporary OOG phrases of this nature. I would expect that opium would be excepted from an OOG violation, but maybe the fluffy bunnied preteen rated policies can't tolerate even a historically accurate reference.

As for rape being too graphic, this relates to a great American hypocrisy. Images of violence and death are acceptable on cut-rate cable television, and almost-live images of unrest and warfare can be found on the evening news, yet a woman's breast is offensive. Some TV commercials on other continents would qualify as softcore porn here. I recall one in Asia that shows a man graphically feeding strawberries, grapes, and a banana to a very sexy woman, accentuating every sexual innuendo possible (very graphically with the banana) only to advertise the fruit section of a supermarket, I believe. That's normal there, but you won't find any guns on TV unless it's the police on the news. Anyhow, quite a tangent... Ah yes, "rape" in America is more graphic than blood and guts, it's just a culture thing.

And agreed, Khaladon is one of the best GMs. The consistency is so poor that the only way to cya is to stay far away from breaking policy. I'm pretty sure that the GMs like it this way and aren't in a hurry to be more consistent.

reg

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Originally posted by Nahiar:
If you thought that "What's up?", or the abbreviation "sup" is appropriate for Gemstone3, I will suggest reading a book. Numerous titles exist, from J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings to more contemporary books.



You should be able to talk with any terminology you wish, even in game folks are not from the same background or upbringing I often talk in todays slang, though toned down for the 'G' rating. Because that's in character for my character, I say you might wanna read those books and base your character on works similar to the world in which this world shamelessly mocks. But do those works go into the urban aspect of multiple cultures melding into something of its own, and note different aspects of the clash of languages in use all around us at one point. Yea we use common to talk to each other, but I'm sure an elven hello is understood by dwarves, giants and humans alike. So lets say "sup" is gnome gibberish for hello, what's going on and "Holla" is an urbanized term used for the meaning, we speak next time we meet. Does it really matter, I roleplay a half-elf rogue of half-noble background, half street urchin background, who was not accepted on either sides of the block and was raised in an urban environment yet has rose to his stature as a legendary lord that's not gonna change his thoughts, morals, actions, or the way he talks because he's a lord or because he has "status" and has to talk a certain way. He learned to speck a certain way and will speck the way he specks.
A lot of people frown on the terminology I use in the game but at least its not thankee, boxie wizzie or the likes that has spawned from the minds of this world...


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Da Nappiest reg

Khaladon is the only GM I like.

As for "sup"... I wouldn't personally say it, but I wouldn't freak out if anyone did. Just like I don't really like it when people say "cool" or similar things, but I deal with it... ::shrug:: reg

Not as though I would freak out, either.

Every day I find myself surrounded by individuals with poor comprehension of concepts at hand. If I were freaked out by every one of them and their shortcomings, I'd break down every day before noon.

The quality of Elanthia's emulation of literary sources is largely irrelevant. GS3 is not a free form role playing venue. Urban areas did not exist as described until well into the industrial revolution and have no more bearing on Elanthia than spaceships or floating cities in the sky, both of which I've heard players attempt to justify.

The quality of Elanthia's representation of a medieval fantasy realm is largely the responsibility of the players, and should they cheapen and trivialize the environment with justifications of modern day slang, the fault lies with them.

But trust that it is not an issue to me. It's as though I'm comfortably sitting in the shade, watching people hit their heads against a wall and complain about the hardness. It's ridiculous, but it doesn't bother me in the least. reg

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So lets say "sup" is gnome gibberish for hello, what's going on and "Holla" is an urbanized term used for the meaning, we speak next time we meet.

The problem comes when joe says to dave "sup" and dave asks joe what that means, joe says its gnomish for hello.

Great, legitimately in character.

Now, dave leaves and meets bob at the furrier, bob says "tovok". Dave ask bob what that means. Bob says its gnomish for hello.

Thats conflicting messages, and now dave's player is jolted back to the real world.

Now, if you would wish to email simu with plans for a gnomish language dictionary, and it is approved and made known gamewide, then it is no longer a problem.

Untill then, that excuse has no legs in which to stand on .

'lood

reg


Kelood, just because two people have different ways of saying hello in gnomish, doesn't mean someones in game life is spoiled. He said 'sup' was hello in gnomish gibberish. So 'tovok' could very well be common gnomish for hello. Also, I have read in many fictional/fantasy books, where a culture has many many words for one thing.

In real life I think its like eskimos who have close to a hundred or over a hundred words for snow..

Also, in this FICTIONAL game.. nothing is impossible, because it is a part of our imagination. Its all fantasy and magic. What isnt possible when magic is involved? Floating castles have definatly been in the books I read. Flying things as well, though usually carpets or something. Not metal machines powered by various fuels.

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reg

i think your missing the point.

The key here is consistancy. No one person can or should have the authority to arbitrarily asigned words to a in game culture.

Two diferent people can RP that they are fluent in gnomish, yet they won't be able to understand a word of the gibberish the other is saying. It still breaks down, even if there are 100 words for hello. What about 10,000? What about 10,000 variations for every word? The bottom line is their just cheap excuses to try to put urban slang into gemstone. Next thing you know we'll get altered jordans and lime green yankees caps...

Their is probably some far fetched justification for that too, but it still doesnt belong in gemstone.

'lood reg

I too have read books involving fanciful topics such as floating castles. Unfortunately for your cause, you will find none of these floating castles in GS3's documentation. Literary sources should be used as a reference, but not a bible. Although wizards such as Tolkein's Gandalf were in truth the remainders of an ancient race of their own, wizards in GS3 are of the 8 common races available to adventurers. This makes them no less appropriate.

The parallel to Eskimos 4 words for snow is inaccurate. It is more the case that in America, we have words such as automobile, car, junker, convertible, sedan, coupe, van, truck, station wagon, hatchback, muscle car, sports car, import, beemer, beetle, fastback, notchback, half ton, and other words for automobiles which have no comparison in other countries. Our culture is massively influenced by these machines. (I may be slightly incorrect that the Eskimos have 4 words for snow, but I am positive that it is below 10, and far fewer than 100.) This does not mean that were I suddenly in 17th century America, surrounded by the full glory of Native American culture, that I would perfectly mesh with the environment by claiming that all horse-drawn wagons were called "station wagons" in Spain. reg

I was soaped for saying "Niggardly." Niggardly means stingy with money. My friend asked me for money, and I said "No, I am niggardly, you are not getting anything." When I reported about it, Andraste said "Let's stay away from certain words considering 'flame words' in today's slang." Guess I am not allowed to flex my vocabulary. reg
Nahiar, why dont you go do a study on Eskimos before you become a nay-sayer and non-believer. Saying you don't 'think' something is true without putting proof behind it is kinda cocky.

Soon as I have time I will try and find where I saw this.. was a while ago. But there are most definatly MORE than 10 words for snow in the Eskimos language. reg

When most people hear the word "niggardly" they are going to hear something vulgar, whether it's true meaning is harmless or not. reg
http://www.adversity.net/special/niggardly.htm

This is a story about a Governer's Aide who was pressured to resign after saying the word Niggardly in a closed meeting.

However, if you can not see why the ignorant masses would have a problem with this word, then you might be just as ignorant as the masses. reg

Wanna meet a GM? recite this in TSC a few times...

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I payed the chit three asses, a most niggardly wage, to save a breast of spatchcock for me, to eschew eructations, to make sure that masticating with an open mouth is kept to a chary, and make sure everyone is out by cockshut.

What your really saying is you paid some little girl three coins to save you a piece of chicken, avoid belching, and make sure everyone chews with their mouth closed. Also you want everyone gone by dark.


'lood
people with high vocabularies have too much time on their hands to waste thinking up big words to describe perfectly suitable small ones. reg

ROFL!!!

Oh God Kelood that cracked me up...

I assure you talking to Kelood on IMs, he had some that appeared way too vulgar to post on the boards.

It's funny all these homophones that sound like one vulgar word but are in no way connected to them.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

I understand that many people would hear something vulgar when I said "Niggardly", because not everyone knows what that means. What I DON'T understand is that the soap wasn't removed after I explained to Andraste what niggardly meant. (Unless they can't do that, of course.) And as for having too much time on my hands, I need something to do while I autoroll. And by the way Kelood, that was awsome. reg
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Originally posted by kelood:
Wanna meet a GM? recite this in TSC a few times...

What your really saying is you paid some little girl three coins to save you a piece of chicken, avoid belching, and make sure everyone chews with their mouth closed. Also you want everyone gone by dark.


'lood
people with high vocabularies have too much time on their hands to waste thinking up big words to describe perfectly suitable small ones.



May I use this in one of my papers kelood? Its amazingly funny.
reg

sure.

reg

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Originally posted by kelood:
sure.


Thanks ill be sure you get the right credit though I wont try to pass it off as mine.


reg