The Players Corner Archive

I would like to just simply state that while you are Simu staff here you are members of a player community, and you are part of something Kranar and myself are trying to build. I know that the two can be very different. I would like to invite more of your staff to post, if they feel comfortable, and at the same time try to find ways to make it more comfortable to post.

I have heard there are several GM's who would like to post, however they feel the things said about them, would just continue. To counter this, once you become a member, we attempt to reduce the flames to smolders.

So far we have been very good at keeping flame wars off these boards. I know there are several questions that people have on the official boards, however your answers get lost in the constant bickering between players.

Hopefully someday we will beable to bridge the gap between players and GM's, but for right now all I can offer is this small place for you to post. Even if it is as a player, and you take your GM/GH cap off for 10 minutes.

My last thought for today is while I stress to members if they have a problem with someone posting about them, or feel a topic is getting out of hand to drop me a note. In the case of a Simu employee I also encourage you to drop me a note and the same proceedure I give to other members will apply to you as well.

I am not a fan of censorship so please keep that in mind.

If you have any questions, comments, or concerns feel free to address them with me. You can e-mail me at buckwheet@whee.org or feel free to drop me an IM my screen name is Mejora.

I would like to welcome all of you who are reading and to those few who are posting. I hope the relationship can continue.

Buckwheet

[This message has been edited by Buckwheet (edited 08-01-2001).] reg

Now we're up to 340 visitors and 19 thousand hits a day, which is absolutely insane!

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard

[This message has been edited by LordKranar (edited 08-01-2001).] reg

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Originally posted by NoOneImportant:
You're welcome guys.

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Edited for what I think of Nooneimportant. Such an appropriate name.

[This message has been edited by GS3Aura (edited 08-01-2001).] reg

Glad my presence was a positive. I, obviously, can't comment on official things. But I can interject some perspective now and then. Seems a useful endevor.

Real nice setup here!

-- David
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I feel one of the most heated and argued points of debate we've had is the rumored threat of not being to eliminate warnings with good behavior for long amounts of time. I was wondering,er more hoping that with spans of time where you abide by policy takes into affect if god forbid you were to get in trouble again Maybe just avoidin pvp for entire months or sumtin, any feedback from ya would be enlightening.. gaze grin

RUSVAl
~Waitin out a lockout for killing oogum after being killed by the weird speakin warrior. reg

Yeah, well, you know me.

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Be nice to free up some resources to look into that sort of thing... but they are too busy building more powerful cheat detection tools! <nudge>

-- David
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but they are too busy building more powerful cheat detection tools!

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I appreciate you posting here, but i'll stand for none of that blasphemous talk...

'lood
scripting moderator reg

-- David
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Noone here can come out with a statemant in favor of or lending support to Simu/Hosts/Sages/GMs without being personally attacked. There are obviously people that enjoy GS, or they wouldn't be sending their money in to play the game.

I gave up on the Simu 'Official' boards, thanks primarily to GS3Aura and his/her ilk following me around and sending private e-mails in reply to all my posts. Some people, apparently, just have far too much free time on their hands. I sure as heck don't want that to happen here (yes, I don't give out my e-mail address) It' simply not worth it.

If a post here doesn't have some sort of attack of a GMs personal life, the poster is called a 'suck up'. Lose that immature image here, Buckwheet, and you may just be able to provide a forum for decent debate and exchange of information. reg

You come in and give me a hand, and I will do my best to move it away from the image it currently has.

I can't do that alone. If you have ideas on how you want to see this board let me know. Same goes for anyone reading these boards.

I have always stated this board is for the player of Gemstone III. Which means all players. Even the ones you don't like.

I need people to come here and remain strong in their ideas and feelings. I need it because it will bring intelligent people to the forums. I also need people not to give up, but to let the moderators and the admins know whats going on during a certain situation. Let us do our jobs before you quit.

I am willing to bend over backwards for anyone at anytime. I do it everyday, it's one of my biggest weaknesses.

Just remember, this board is less then one year old, and we all are new at this. If you can bring any experience with you, it will help this forum and its owner advance greatly.

Buckwheet reg

Would it be better if we put in an option to turn off the forwarding?

-- David
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Anyone who is vocal on the boards has had their hate mail barrages.

There are times when I just don't want to wade through it.

Ylena
(and her two bald guys)

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Have one of your geniuses code a tool to allow only specific people to forward. That way, you can get mail from the posters you enjoy hearing from, while blocking out everyone else.

Have a "permission" thing for all new account names when you log on the boards or some such.

Just an idea, probably a coding nightmare but you could just buy a coder for the project (after you're done paying off your new Ferrarrarrarri of course). reg

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Originally posted by Buckwheet:

I need people to come here and remain strong in their ideas and feelings. I need it because it will bring intelligent people to the forums. I also need people not to give up, but to let the moderators and the admins know whats going on during a certain situation. Let us do our jobs before you quit.

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Well that's good to know because after the whole Tort/GSLawyer thing, I had pretty much given up on this board myself. I have a little bit of a legal background and knew enough to know this guy was full of it, and what I didn't know I looked up. But posting an opposite opinion on this board made me feel like I was going to be lynched, and damned if I was going to give up my character names or email address so folks like GS3Aura (who also wrote me from the official boards) could insult me in private emails.

In the last day, I've read this board again and have seen that the Tort/Lawyer guy owned up to being a liar. Unfortunately, I've also seen NoOneImportant being slammed and flamed up one end and down the other, so I don't know what to think.

Why is it that when people have good experiences with the game and the staff, believe that the staff isn't going to screw over their own customers or their product, and try to see things from the other side of the coin than the majority of posters on this board, we are labeled as suck-ups, idiots who were dropped on our heads with an IQ of 3, accused of being staff out to serve our own evil agendas, or other BS like that? That makes me feel like my opinions aren't wanted here, so I'm not going to waste my time posting them. If people are happy believing their conspiracy theories, then I'll be just as happy to scan the board for posts of value and ignore the other crap.

As for David's question about email forwarding on the official boards, GS3Aura and others have at times emailed me because of posts I made on the official boards in support of staff. I've been making filters and sending messages from those people straight to the trash before I ever have to see them because I don't want to turn my forwarding off from the Simu site - that would mean not getting official communications either, and I do want those. If there were a way to turn off forwarding from everyone except staff, that would be ideal in my eyes.

Enough rambling. Screw it, I'm going to post when I feel like it. If I get flamed, so be it. As I told Sierra recently, I'm not going to let the idiots win their harassment game by driving me away.

GG

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Takes some getting used to.. you may have noticed I stopped responding to a few of the posts, but continuing on others. Sometimes you need to just walk away from an arguement and let the other guy think he's right - or let someone else do the arguing.

R
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Originally posted by Bardon:
So was the problem in the "offical" boards that people could send email to you via the @play.net address?

Would it be better if we put in an option to turn off the forwarding?

-- David

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I think one of your industrious programers already added that. On the GS website, go into Billing, then "View your account information", then "Change your email options", uncheck the first box that starts with "I want e-mail...", and click on "submit change".

Tsoran

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Originally posted by Siara:
I do feel that message boards are important and can be a great tool for players for several reasons. However, I grow tired of personal degrading comments made simply because one person doesn't agree with another person, particularly on these boards.

Noone here can come out with a statemant in favor of or lending support to Simu/Hosts/Sages/GMs without being personally attacked. There are obviously people that enjoy GS, or they wouldn't be sending their money in to play the game.

I gave up on the Simu 'Official' boards, thanks primarily to GS3Aura and his/her ilk following me around and sending private e-mails in reply to all my posts. Some people, apparently, just have far too much free time on their hands. I sure as heck don't want that to happen here (yes, I don't give out my e-mail address) It' simply not worth it.

If a post here doesn't have some sort of attack of a GMs personal life, the poster is called a 'suck up'. Lose that immature image here, Buckwheet, and you may just be able to provide a forum for decent debate and exchange of information.

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Ok...this is not to make you downtrodden whatsoever Siara...this is more of an inquisitive statement that is yearning for a response from other's...

1st. No one can agree on anything about GM's because the GM's themselves can't agree on anything.

2nd. Everything GM's are doing these days seems to contradict one another in some form or fashion. If the rules on what is/is not accepetable were laid down and put in stone it would be different. (No, for all your smartasses, the GS Policy is not sufficient enough in this area)

3rd. Who said anyone had to _ever_ agree?

4th. The people that we consider kiss-up's _are_ w/o a doubt. I said Hi to David the first time he posted here...but not like NoI for instance. Who regrets to see anything from the player's perspective.

--It's a known fact that in GS you have your kiss-ups. You want to find them? It isn't hard. Go to a merchant...find the people that a) complain about not getting alterations b) try and help out the merchants as much as they can c) spit out the rules every 3 minutes to everyone d) make groups to discuss alteration ideas

(Ex.'s=Augie, Aquamarine, Kiera) Have you ever seen Augie and Kiera @ a merchant not kissing up? Or wait...Augie/Washee combination...almost forgot

Question: Is this a forum of mature & decent debate? Heh. Why are David Whatley, Andraste, and several other GM's posting here. Obviously it is a great place for debate.

Although you have a good point...your argument is sheltered.

My point:

I'm in support of GM's if:

a) they put together a concrete set of rules/guidelines

b) they put together a concrete lockout period for specified "crimes"

c) the power-tripping gm's are slowed down somehow

d) they ask for more player input than has been given thus far

--The in-game forums are very helpful, yet don't seem to be enough

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On a totally different note:

I can see how this is very very perplexing for GM's. How can we adapt this game to fit everyone when we have these people that have been around so long that it's going to piss them off in order to make everyone happy? I can understand that in order to please an entire audience it's usually an accepted solution to hurt few...and reward several. In order to get ahead, you have to make certain sacrifices. Well...that's definitely the case in American society. However, like we have small benefits for seniority in real-life, i feel like the one thing that is owed to the "senior citizens" if you may have it that way, is to make them feel like they actually have a part in what is being done.

--Although that probably sounds completely unreasonable...i really wish that everything could be set up that way.

I look forward to disagreements, arguments, comments, ridicules, jests, cussing, swearing, and utter disappointment from all of you.

That is Siara:

_WHY I POST HERE_

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GG, it's all in a person's perception and experiences. I realize there are players that have had positive experiences with the staff and GM's, and it's encouraging to hear those comments. But, there are valid negative experiences to consider as well.

Personally, I get frustrated trying to discuss an issue with someone that refuses to consider that my comment, or opinion could be a valid one, or have any merit. It's not frustration because the person refuses to agree with me, it's frustration with the tone of the responses. Just as you state you get labeled as a "suck-up" because you support the staff, I felt I was labeled a liar when I tried to share a case that was handled badly.

In my opinion, the majority of posts are reasonable and fair. Most of us seem to agree there are great GM's and some not-so-great ones. The fanatic, unreasonable posts from both sides (pro-GS and anti-GS), are a small minority and can easily be ignored.

Gandmor reg

I am very open minded. While I can't please everyone all the time. I can do my best to help you through something.

Wanna see how open minded I am? Here is my e-mail buckwheet@whee.org my screen name on AIM is Mejora. If people get more distressed I won't hesitate to evne post a phone number.

I can trust everyone on the boards.

Just keep in mind that I did not claim to be the best admin in the world, nor did I claim these boards would be perfect. You have a voice, if you don't like something all I ask is that you USE it.

Buckwheet

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[This message has been edited by Buckwheet (edited 08-08-2001).] reg

WOW! That's exactly why I stopped going to merchants. I thought I was the only one that was annoyed by those actions.

Gandmor
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This one thing keeps me from posting on the Official boards very often.. but every once in a while I do. I would post much more if I had complete assurance no one would be getting my information. All they would get is the email I put in my post if any. (Like for selling stuff in the merchants corner.. Pretty much the only reason I post there.)

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Originally posted by JustLilOlMe:
I said Hi to David the first time he posted here...but not like NoI for instance. Who regrets to see anything from the player's perspective.

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I don't want to talk about NOI too much, but I can't really blame them for the way they said 'hi'. Since they are a player, seeing anything in any way but a 'players's perspective' is going to be rather difficult.

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--It's a known fact that in GS you have your kiss-ups. You want to find them? It isn't hard. Go to a merchant...find the people that a) complain about not getting alterations b) try and help out the merchants as much as they can c) spit out the rules every 3 minutes to everyone d) make groups to discuss alteration ideas

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Very true. Or in my case:

a)look around the tent and realize there's 100 people, 20 of whom know what they're doing, 20 of whom have a general idea, and 60 of whom either don't have a clue, are just here because there's a crowd and there must be something cool here, or want a sword of pure light-aborbing darkness with terrifying runes that make you wet yourself in utter fright.

b) realize I don't have a prayer of getting an alteration short of logging on a few friends' characters and sitting them all in the tent to maximize my chances of getting a spin.

c) Perform b, c and d in the above so that I'm not sitting in a tent all night surrounded by whiners, the clueless, idiots who can't take 'no' for an answer and a couple dozen zombie characters with nothing to show for it but a 2 meg log file.

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Question: Is this a forum of mature & decent debate? Heh. Why are David Whatley, Andraste, and several other GM's posting here. Obviously it is a great place for debate.

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Jury's still out on that one. There's the usual flames, trolls, baiting and namecalling, but I've also seen mature posters, logic and reason, and people who speak what they believe even if I don't always agree. (Keep it up, 'lood!) I'm hoping the good outweighs the bad.

As for Andraste and Mr. Whatley, I consider them bold in the extreme. There are no Simu-employed board moderators here to remove flames and cheap shots. Instead there's a group of volunteers who could easily decide that they deserve what they get here and give posters free reign. (No insult meant to the volunteers)

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I was not pointing out the fact that I'm mad GM's post here...I think it's the greatest thing I've seen happen to GS in the passed few years, IMO.

Gandmor...we seem to agree on everything...you sure we aren't related?

As for another post on another board:

David says, "Seems everyone's running from a good debator?" Heh.

I remember being on debate team in 5th grade and debating with another group in a classroom setting about affirmative action. Now...when you debate with someone who has full knowledge of everything they are talking about you respect them and carry on the debate with the upmost wanting to beat them to oblivion.- - - In NoI's case...she has very little knowledge to back up her facts...rather it seems that everytime she makes a post that a) some Simu employee backs her up b) we all make fun of how childish the words she types onto the monitor in front of her are

(If you could be a little more obvious with the way you all back up eachother...I'd have to be Hellen Keller...)

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I think it's time for a new topic...

These're getting old.

Thanks of course Buckwheet...these boards are tremendous in letting people actually debate. I think debate is one of the best attributes given to a person. Of course...some people actually back up words with facts...others just spew.

Your's,

JustLilOlMe
President & CEO
"Bring it on debators"
Senior Exec. VP
"Tell us who you really are NoI"
All out supporter
"Don't back up other employees, let them handle their own business"
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-- David
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Originally posted by JustLilOlMe:
In NoI's case...she has very little knowledge to back up her facts...rather it seems that everytime she makes a post that a) some Simu employee backs her up b) we all make fun of how childish the words she types onto the monitor in front of her are

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Leaving aside the typical cheap shot for the moment, consider what you just said. A) NOI says something and is typically backed up. Considering that the only Simu employee (if that's the right word) I know of on this board is Bardon, that's some pretty big backup. B) NOI posts, and gets made fun of.

Gee, sure sounds like they might just have a clue. Also sounds like because they have an opposing viewpoint, some people can't handle that and rather than respond, take shots at NOI. You're right, it's getting old.

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Of course...some people actually back up words with facts...others just spew

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Couldn't have put it better myself.

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"Tell us who you really are NoI"

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You want to know who NOI is? I know them pretty well. I wouldn't say we're close personal friends or something, but we keep in touch. Seriously, if you want to know, say it.

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Originally posted by Specto:
Leaving aside the typical cheap shot for the moment, consider what you just said. A) NOI says something and is typically backed up. Considering that the only Simu employee (if that's the right word) I know of on this board is Bardon, that's some pretty big backup. B) NOI posts, and gets made fun of.

Gee, sure sounds like they might just have a clue. Also sounds like because they have an opposing viewpoint, some people can't handle that and rather than respond, take shots at NOI. You're right, it's getting old.

[QUOTE][b]Of course...some people actually back up words with facts...others just spew

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Couldn't have put it better myself.

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"Tell us who you really are NoI"

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You want to know who NOI is? I know them pretty well. I wouldn't say we're close personal friends or something, but we keep in touch. Seriously, if you want to know, say it.

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Dangit!

Been trying to remember what NOI stands for...even did a search on the internet...and i can't believe it's on the tip of my tongue...remind me!
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Roberta (I have a log!)
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But serious, if you feel I get out of line you can IM me at LordEdgeleaf. Or if you think anyone has flamed to much or want to tell me how much you hate me. Feel free to.

We need all the help we can get.

Buckwheat and Kranar made sure Andraste felt comfortable to post. We got GS staff now posting so the boards are really growing in ways we could only dream of.

edge

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I'm not sure just how I can help you. I've got a decidedly different opinion than 'most' of your posters here. That, and the fact that you know from past dealings with me, my tolerance level for BS is extremely low.

Bardon,

Yes, fixing it so that we have a way to filter 'official' mail from 'just mail' would be a blessing.

Tsoran,

You're way won't work. My 'official' (Mentor mailing lists) mail is connected to my play.net address so I can't deleate or change it.

GG & Deshi-pooh,

Thanks for the support!

Now then, to answer those of you that think I'm not up for a good debate or that I'm agianst anyone disagreeing with me (or anyone else for that matter)..

I don't know how many times it can be said -- there are rational, intelligent, unemotional ways to debate an issue. All without resulting the churlish immature name-calling that these boards are known for. Discussing an issue is good. Lively debate is good. What happens here... ::smirks::

Game issues..

There are some real true game issues. GMs are always up for suggestions. I've never heard a GM say 'we don't want to hear it' over an intelligent calmly worded suggestion or concern. What they don't want to hear are the personal 'crack-head' comments so many find ammusing.

To those of you that plan on replying to my posts with your usual insulting manner.. you'll only be getting high-fives from the rest of your ilk. I, like Desh and GG, don't plan on reading them nor responding to them.

[This message has been edited by Buckwheet (edited 08-09-2001).] reg

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Originally posted by Siara:
Buckwheet,

I'm not sure just how I can help you. I've got a decidedly different opinion than 'most' of your posters here. That, and the fact that you know from past dealings with me, my tolerance level for BS is extremely low.

Bardon,

Yes, fixing it so that we have a way to filter 'official' mail from 'just mail' would be a blessing.

Tsoran,

You're way won't work. My 'official' (Mentor mailing lists) mail is connected to my play.net address so I can't deleate or change it.

GG & Deshi-pooh,

Thanks for the support!

Now then, to answer those of you that think I'm not up for a good debate or that I'm agianst anyone disagreeing with me (or anyone else for that matter)..

I don't know how many times it can be said -- there are rational, intelligent, unemotional ways to debate an issue. All without resulting the churlish immature name-calling that these boards are known for. Discussing an issue is good. Lively debate is good. What happens here... ::smirks::

Game issues..

There are some real true game issues. GMs are always up for suggestions. I've never heard a GM say 'we don't want to hear it' over an intelligent calmly worded suggestion or concern. What they don't want to hear are the personal 'crack-head' comments so many find ammusing.

To those of you that plan on replying to my posts with your usual insulting manner.. you'll only be getting high-fives from the rest of your ilk. I, like Desh and GG, don't plan on reading them nor responding to them.

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Heh.

A little contradictory of flaming aren't we?

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On a serious note Siara...

First off: The last statement on your post: "To those of you that plan on replying to my posts with your usual insulting manner.. you'll only be getting high-fives from the rest of your ilk. I, like Desh and GG, don't plan on reading them nor responding to them."-Ok...so we can't reply to your posts because you're high and mighty? One minute you say that the boards are too flaming and immature. Now you stoop to "our" level and tell us that we can't respond to your posts with the exact same immaturity that you display in that statement? Makes absolutely no sense to me.

As for game issues:

No...it's not the closed ear approach of the GM's. I know that they listen...hmm...how can I put it w/o totally changing my original statements on this matter...

Correct me if this doesn't make sense: When GM's are brought in they should at least be examined. I mean not through psychological testing (although David you got the money go fer it!), but more through a serious interview. Would you accept someone to watch your kids w/o looking @ them or knowing who they are? No. This is the same way. Our babysitters could want to kill us. Some want their revenge, as aforementioned in one of my posts, on the bullies that picked on them in high-school for playing too much AD&D (Yes I played it too).

That's my only point...why bring out these people w/ Napolean Disease (Too big for their britches for all you non-irish catholics out there (it's a phrased used all the time for lil' guys w/ big egos)).

JustLilOlMe
President & CEO Of Aid the Flaming Assoc.
Friend to a Burned Edge

[This message has been edited by Buckwheet (edited 08-09-2001).] reg

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Originally posted by JustLilOlMe:
Correct me if this doesn't make sense: When GM's are brought in they should at least be examined. I mean not through psychological testing (although David you got the money go fer it!), but more through a serious interview. Would you accept someone to watch your kids w/o looking @ them or knowing who they are? No. This is the same way. Our babysitters could want to kill us. Some want their revenge, as aforementioned in one of my posts, on the bullies that picked on them in high-school for playing too much AD&D (Yes I played it too).

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Hey JLOM,

You might want to pop onto the web site and head for the library, where the downloadable files are and check out the applications for Host and GM, to see what kind of detailed information they request, both in-game and real life.

Then keep in mind that a majority of today's GMs are being hired from the Host pool, where they have spent months in training, and in most cases, years before they are hired as an AGM.

In addition to the Host application information, an in-person interview, and each GM being able to submit feedback on the applicant, it's entirely possible to get as good an indicator of the person's personality and thought process as you would get in a job interview.

Each Host potentially has the ability to move up to Sage-dom, where they are also interviewed, again, and receive many more months of additional training and the ability to work alongside GMs.

Factor into all this the ability to check the player's history for all their characters, and there isn't much you can miss... and if they pull the wool over your eyes, well they generally don't last too long in the Host program or make it to Sage.

Watching a Host/Sage is where you can get a good sense of how they might perform as a GM... with help of the additional interview and the GM application information.

Each Assistant GameMaster goes through months of yet more training. That's pretty much standard for the Customer Experience side of things. Development has other criteria they follow, although they are certainly able to recruit talent from the Host pool as well.

Gone are the days of hiring and training someone in a few days and setting them free. Long gone. Most of this model existed several years ago when I first joined staff.

--a. reg

-- David
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Originally posted by Bardon:
<beam>
It's my birthday!

-- David

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So what level are ya now? ::duck::

Um, happy birthday! :P

GG reg

GM Silvaran
Ex-Oppressor Extrordinaire of the Official Gemstone III Message Boards

PS...For those that wanted to thank Ogalesh from the Dhu, I have been told that you can write them via ogalesh@hotmail.com if you wish to contact him. reg

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::thinks::

::wrinkles her nose::

Naw. I've thought long and hard on this and I've come to the conclusion.. no warm welcome.

Giving you a warm welcome is.. is.. well it's just being 'nice' and there's just too much work involved in me trying to be nice. I find that when I'm 'nice' it exhausts me and I have to spend the rest of the day in bed recovering.

I will however, try.. good to see you here!

...whew! Got lil light headed there, but it passed... reg

I have never once had an issue with you, and I am really embarassed to say it, but I was not aware you were a board monitor, infact I was not aware you even existed.

Sorry!

Anyway hopefully you will find something here you would consider good discussion and join in.

Again welcome!

Buckwheet reg

Good to see ya here, just remember...

Post thoughtfully. Count to 10. And whatever other gems of wisdom you "official" board folks used to macro onto the text buffer.

R
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Happy belated Birthday David! I hope it was a good one for you...

Aerienne reg

-- David
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Originally posted by Bardon:
Thanks everyone! Yeah, it was good. Had a big party with lots of friends and family. After, a bunch of us played the new Worms game late into the morning. (highly recommended, by the way)

-- David

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Happy belated Birthday, David. Sounds like you had a great time, which everyone should have on their birthday!

--A. reg

Happy Birthday David!

Welcome Silvaran.

I forget anything? reg

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