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Mano

[This message has been edited by Manodith (edited 08-16-2001).] reg

Will you all ever being making a front-end for Linux? I'm multi-booting currently with Windows2000 and RedHat. But I'd love to be able to use only Linux.

Thanks. reg

With the new website, they're obsoleting the Wizard. Everything will be run through the browser, using Java. Whether that's a good or bad thing is an entirely different discussion.

As long as you're running a java-capable browser under linux, I would guess that the new interface should work for you.

But I doubt there will be any more releases of the Wizard for any platform, be it Linux, Windows, or Palm.

[the answer to your question ends here -- stop reading if you don't want to get depressed about the near term prospects for linux support in GS]

As for supporting Linux in general... well, judging by the statistics I get from the server logs on my website (which are probably representative of the GS community as a whole), Windows machines make up 95% of all hits on the site, Mac's 3%, and anything else, including all unix/linux varients, are a tiny fraction of 1%. From a business perspective, if they can support Linux for free, great. If not, it's a matter of where they want to put their resources.

FYI: The actual numbers from the logs:

All variants of Windows: 95.01%

Mac: 2.63%

All Unix/Linux variants: 0.12%

OS/2: .01%

The remainder was mostly search engines, or the OS was unidentifiable.

Tsoran

P.S. Looking at just the statistics for August, Linux/Unix (most of which is Unix, BTW) increases to 0.18%. The Linux part here was 0.08%, which is significantly up from the 0.02% for the 18 month statistics. reg

I don't know for sure though. reg

I guarantee if they made the option to use linux available or any unix available, that percentage would shift greatly. I mean comon, inferno does it, they allow any mud client. I'd love to use tinyfugue or MCL...
But alas, something that wont happen. Really wouldn't be hard to port it to linux either in my opinion. reg

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I guarantee if they made the option to use linux available or any unix available, that percentage would shift greatly. I mean comon, inferno does it, they allow any mud client. I'd love to use tinyfugue or MCL...
But alas, something that wont happen. Really wouldn't be hard to port it to linux either in my opinion. [/B]

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Inferno isn't a good comparison. They don't have their own FE, which is why not only do they allow you to use another one, you HAVE to use another one. Kind of a difference there. As far as I know, you can use other MUD clients to play GS, lotsa people use that ZMUD.

Snook
reg

As far as GS goes, you can use any front end that works on the telnet system to access Gemstone. I used ZMud the last time I played, because I never really liked the Wizard. You can also use unix-based front ends, which is what Prodigy online had for its members to play.

Roberta
reg

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Originally posted by Tsoran:
I don't think you need a GM to answer that.

With the new website, they're obsoleting the Wizard. Everything will be run through the browser, using Java. Whether that's a good or bad thing is an entirely different discussion.

As long as you're running a java-capable browser under linux, I would guess that the new interface should work for you.

But I doubt there will be any more releases of the Wizard for any platform, be it Linux, Windows, or Palm.

[the answer to your question ends here -- stop reading if you don't want to get depressed about the near term prospects for linux support in GS]

As for supporting Linux in general... well, judging by the statistics I get from the server logs on my website (which are probably representative of the GS community as a whole), Windows machines make up 95% of all hits on the site, Mac's 3%, and anything else, including all unix/linux varients, are a tiny fraction of 1%. From a business perspective, if they can support Linux for free, great. If not, it's a matter of where they want to put their resources.

FYI: The actual numbers from the logs:

All variants of Windows: 95.01%

Mac: 2.63%

All Unix/Linux variants: 0.12%

OS/2: .01%

The remainder was mostly search engines, or the OS was unidentifiable.

Tsoran

P.S. Looking at just the statistics for August, Linux/Unix (most of which is Unix, BTW) increases to 0.18%. The Linux part here was 0.08%, which is significantly up from the 0.02% for the 18 month statistics.

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Sorry for the tardiness on the response Tsoran.

Thank you for the numbers.

But as I read on in the next post, I agree with the next poster.

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From a business perspective it being a bad decision? Hmm...I'm a little iffy. That's your opinion, I accept. Allow me to verse mine.

Why don't we take a look at the most formidable busines servers available currently? Hmm. Linux. Do they crash? Hardly. W2K Professional Suite servers? Haven't messed with them, need to go get my new certification. However, creating Linux boxes vs. NT servers I've learned that the crash rate on Linux is just amazing. The security is just as powerful if not more.

Now the complete contradiction to that is the hotmail website. Which you know is run on Linux. And god...that thing crashes.

Linux is becoming a very very powerful platform in the entire internet community. While it has its complete enemies, it has huge amounts of allies. You should check into downloading audiogalaxysatellite and www.audiogalaxysatellite.com. When you go to the download page, there's actually two selections for Linux downloads. Coming from the current number 1 MP3 searching engine...I find that to show me that Linux is pretty accepted. Of course, Audiogalaxy Satellite is used on a very huge market, including Europeans, but I think you get the idea of my statement.

Gosh...horrid argument I made there. But hopefully I brought some light.

Thanks for the numbers though Tsoran. Very good information to know. reg

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Originally posted by Tsoran:
With the new website, they're obsoleting the Wizard. Everything will be run through the browser, using Java.

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Just a clarification from what I've read on the official boards...

Apparently, the browser based front end will not use Java. Don't ask me what it will use because I don't know, but I've seen it posted by the GM working on it that it won't run using Java. Also, the current wizard will still be available for use. Tsoran is right, though, about future updates to the current wizard being unlikely.

GG

reg

If it turns out to be java, then I won't use it period. Java is slow and very buggy. Internet developers have shyed away from it for a long time.

If Simu would make the FE under a GPL licence, then I could see it being cross platform compatible, but I could never see Simu doing that.

Hell, if they just made it GCC friendly, it could them be compiled on most platforms anyway.

Justlilofme, Look for Warlock on slashdot etc, It's a linux mud client written specifically for Simu games, has scripting etc etc I believe too.

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[This message has been edited by Insomniac (edited 08-25-2001).] reg

#1 - Except for account hacking, no one would get locked out on a first offense.

#2 - I would always remember that every player was a customer, and without customers, none of us would be here.

#3 - I would begin every encounter with a customer with respect. If they were rude, or abusive, I would warn them that I didn't have to listen to caa-caa, and if they didn't tone it down, I would leave and make no effort to help them.

#4 - I would try to make the customer feel that I had time to listen to their problem, complaint, or story.... That I wasn't in a huge rush to do something more important.

#5 - I would consider the customer innocent until proven guilty. I tend to think the majority of players are here to have fun, and not to run illegal scams. The small minority of known trouble-makers that are guilty, will have so many encounters they will dig their own graves.

#6 - While working as a GM, I would never IM someone other than a fellow staff member. No whispers, or IM's to "favorite" players. If I wanted to speak to players that were friends, I would do so as a regular character, not a GM character.

#7 - I would never speak badly about a customer to another customer, or release personal information.

#8 - If I was running a merchant, I would check and no one with more than two alters would get chosen until others that had zero were helped.

#9 - I would realize that with computers, data entry, and the possibility of human error, billing records are NOT always accurate.

#10 - I would attempt to at least acknowledge, and try to respond to all letters received.

And for those that are going to say, "well, get off your hiney and apply"... I haven't found the trick to getting my letters answered!

Summer

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[This message has been edited by Summerlyn (edited 08-27-2001).] reg

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Have you ever heard of laughing death? It's a disease that causes the brain to rot and deteriorate until the person dies. Now that I think about it, it's not that funny. reg