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HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN HERE? I care a great amount :P

Longevity...let's throw it out the door please. It does absolutely nothing to change my mind. "I wish things were like this in '93..." "when i started in '92..."

You want people to respect you...then earn it through intelligence and honor. Not from how long you've been here or how long you say you've been here.

Hell the newest trend in Gemstone in the past year is to say you've been in Gemstone for 6-7 years. That's coming from some 18 year olds I know. Wow...you could type and play GS @ 11 years old! That's just amazing!

Really folks....thanks. reg

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He who laughs last, didn't get the joke. reg

When certain people (who remain nameless) make comments that are 'bolstered' in their minds by the length of time they've spent in Gemstone, they are completely wrong. It only hurts your argument.

We know who the old one's are. They're the one's that post...and don't post how long they've been around.

Best message board posters of all time:

In my opinion of course.

1) Krakii (Robert actually saved every post he made on the Genie boards!...I got all of them on my old computer)

2) Dmitri vs. Dart (This quite possibly could've been the best experience for any wizards that wanted to learn. These two used to go @ it all the time on the AOL boards)

3) Dionket (Yes, Doug's a very effective writer and arguer)

Now do those people explain exactly how long they've been around? Or did they allude to the fact of how long they've been around? Um no. Do people respect all 3 of them? W/o a doubt. I know I do.
reg

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He who laughs last, didn't get the joke. reg

As far as the good old days... I remeber a Lord stealing from me in the kobold hunting grounds, and generaly being mocked when I asked for help about it on the amulet. I remember less merchants... There was Thailor, he was always an interesting one, almost too bad a person like that would get banned real quick now days.

Oh well, I talked about how long I've been around, so that makes this post illegit I guess. Heh.

Asmodea Drey'Haus reg

Summer

(I know, I know,... I really should read more of the history pages!) reg

An obscure game on a new mode of communication was created. The mode of communication was GEnie, an on-line service developed by General Electric. The game was GemStone, loosely fabricated from an older game called Shadow World, owned by Iron Crown Enterprises. It was related somewhat to the old RollMaster series, which is still available on various websites.

Iron Crown Enterprises worked in conjunction with Simutronics, a then-fledgling game startup, and eventually Simutronics was granted the rights to retain the name GemStone, with certain provisions. They left the relationship and re-created GemStoneIII, with many new systems and names of things and places, but keeping much of the old coding (a C-based code) while developing their own customized code (GSL).

That's a summary of ICE - Iron Crown Enterprises and their relationship with Simutronics. The ICE age refers to the time when ICE actually ran the game.

Roberta

[This message has been edited by Desharei (edited 08-22-2001).] reg

Someone please tell me I'm not the only one that didn't know what ICE meant...

Summer reg

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Originally posted by Asmodea:
I like reading posts about people who say they've been around that long. It's funny to see them get their facts wrong. A person once talked about their ora falchion they had altered back in `94.... Myself, I started sometime in late `95 or early `96 I think. I missed the ICE age, but not by much. I did take around a year off, and have only been back with a current concecutive stay of 2 years though.

As far as the good old days... I remeber a Lord stealing from me in the kobold hunting grounds, and generaly being mocked when I asked for help about it on the amulet. I remember less merchants... There was Thailor, he was always an interesting one, almost too bad a person like that would get banned real quick now days.

Oh well, I talked about how long I've been around, so that makes this post illegit I guess. Heh.

Asmodea Drey'Haus

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There are really only about 50 or so people who can really claim the actively played during the ICE days and can authoritatively speak about the whole range and scope of changes that have occured since.

Maybe, and this is a very scant maybe, maybe 1/4 of those players are still around and active to this day AND have remained active since that time.

Anyone else is lying to make themselves feel more important. And there will always be people around, like Jim/Celtar, to dispute them.

--A. who is not ICE, but was AOL-Beta long before the AOL doors opened.
reg

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ICQ : 91446467 reg

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Originally posted by Asmodea:
I like reading posts about people who say they've been around that long. It's funny to see them get their facts wrong. A person once talked about their ora falchion they had altered back in `94.... Myself, I started sometime in late `95 or early `96 I think. I missed the ICE age, but not by much. I did take around a year off, and have only been back with a current concecutive stay of 2 years though.

As far as the good old days... I remeber a Lord stealing from me in the kobold hunting grounds, and generaly being mocked when I asked for help about it on the amulet. I remember less merchants... There was Thailor, he was always an interesting one, almost too bad a person like that would get banned real quick now days.

Oh well, I talked about how long I've been around, so that makes this post illegit I guess. Heh.

Asmodea Drey'Haus

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People like Thal and Blades and Sagan made the game more interesting everytime I logged in.

Then of course you had those lil' gangs of assassins that were being brought up? (I think I remember correctly) Mainly remember Ravon and Rozak accepting bribes to kill people
reg

Whew....

Summer reg

By the way, what year did the main AOL doors open? It was `95 wasn't it?

Asmodea Drey'Haus reg

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Originally posted by Asmodea:
By the way, what year did the main AOL doors open? It was `95 wasn't it?

Asmodea Drey'Haus

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AOL-Beta ended, and the general AOL public responded to GS3 promo "buttons" on the main screen around March or April of 1996. AOL went unlimited in the fall of 1996.

--A. reg

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Originally posted by Asmodea:
One of my earlyer prouder moments was when Thailor auctaly took a minute to find me and kill me for something I said to him on the amulet. If we had a few people like that now days it would make things more interesting.

Asmodea Drey'Haus

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According to the latest Disneyfication policy that is in effect:
It would be an abuse of Thalior's power because you were not a realistic threat to him - therefore Thalior should have been the bigger man, and allowed you to insult him at least 100 times, then have you punch/kick/slap him another 100 - and then *maybe* Thalior would be able to stun you ONCE without getting in trouble.

Makes you want to go get old now doesn't it?

[This message has been edited by Magister (edited 08-23-2001).] reg

Come to think of it, when I first started Gemstone I believe it was on Prodigy, then they switched from unlimited to per hour, so we switched services to AOL which was unlimited at the time. I first used the name Asmodea when someone in the Prodigy chat rooms had already taken the name Asmodai. I then later named a character Asmodea, and the theme was born. Man, this is starting to get nostalgic... Got someone who's lucky if he remembers last week, thinking back this far is really starting to give me a headache.

Asmodea Drey'Haus
reg

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-John, and ive been reading these boards and posting on them since they opend...not as this name tho. :-D Kranar originally showed them to me when him and buckwheet got them started....

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(Ever wonder if rubber chickens think people are funny?) reg

The reason people, and I do say people in the general sense of the word will tend to quote background is that they are laying
the foundation for why you might consider their words worth taking note of.

This is inregards to any subject in the world folks. Whether it be gaming or vehicle design. This sets the background for you the reader, so that you know whether the person has a good foundational background on the subject at hand.

For some it might be for ego reasons, ie; self stroking. In my case it is not that by any means. I am just laying out the background so that you know where I am coming from and what I am basing a said view
on.

Yes I've been a table top roleplayer and player of tactical/strategic games since
March of 1978. Yes I couldn't wait to try out
Gemstone/Shadow World, Mechwarrior, The Hundred Years War and Dragonsgate on GEnie, nor Never Winters Night<Forgotten realms> on
AOL and any other game I could catch when I returned from Europe in Mid September of 1992.

Yes, I've played close to 90% of the table top games made between 1975 and 1996, whether they were small or large companies. Its my passion and hobby. Though I nolonger collect table top gaming stuff and actually before moving out to Denver, CO I gave all my gaming stuff but a few things to an old Army buddy. Gary was like a kid in a candy store he was so happy to get thousands of gaming books, hundreds of figures etc. My book shelf for my gaming gear was seven foot tall by nine foot long and stuffed to the brim with the stuff.

Yes, I love gaming. Its led me to meet a lot of fun and interesting people over the last twenty three years. I have some really great memories and I do not regret one bit of it. I've had a total blast designing campaigns for GURPS, Twilight 2000, Traveler,
Mechwarrior, BTECH, Runequest, AD@D, D@D, Rolemaster, MERPS, ShadowRun etc..etc..etc.

That said, since I find so often that many folks really appear to get bothered by even my mentioning in one short sentence my background in gaming, I'll try to not bring it up anymore.

As far as ICE age players go, we really are a ever dwindling group. It makes me a bit sad at times, because you form friendships that really do mean alot to you over the years.

You learn about the players families, their pains, loves etc. It is a comunity, and it does grow on you. I guestimate that theres probably no more than 30 to 50 ice agers left anymore. And of that probably 20 or so play with any regularity.

Anyhow I apolgize for listing background information off an on when I do a post. I shall honestly try to not do so in the future on any of the bbs.

Jim/Celtar's long ramble. reg

Celtar/Jim, I really hope you DON'T change a thing about the way you post. For someone like me, that has NEVER explored the world of gaming, posts like yours offer a wealth of information. I learn something new almost every time I read these boards. I just wish I would have read them when I first started playing Gemstone, maybe I wouldn't have been so clueless most of the time!

Summer
reg

From what I've read of your posts, you display a great understanding of Gemstone and it's history, and you don't adopt a 'high and mighty' stance with some of the newer players.

I think the problem generally lies in the attitude of some so-called ICE agers who continually spout off how it was better before X time when all the snerts arrived. That kind of posting has absolutely no redeeming qualities at all, and only serves to alienate the new players. Other times people proclaim they're from the ICE age as if being from that time makes their opinion matter more than anyone else's, which is not true. reg

I'm starting to play another game now, and I notice the 'old timers' of that game doing the very same thing, start a post with how long they've 'been around'. It's for the very reasons you stated.

New players don't know 'old names'. And in the hurried up world of GS -- old character doesn't equate to old timer player.

As you said, there's so very few of the GEnie players left, I have my doubts that half the ones posting that, actually did play in the GEnie days. (Read their post and you can usually tell they didn't)

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AOL-Beta ended, and the general AOL public responded to GS3 promo "buttons" on the
main screen around March or April of 1996. AOL went unlimited in the fall of 1996.

--A.

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Umm.. I hate to do this..really, truly, honest I do.. but yeeeewwwwwwwwwww'r wrong. That wee lil banner button to pop into GemStone on AOL came in Oct of '95. We had a little over a year before AOL went unlimited in Dec of '96.

(I only remember odd lil facts like this coz I still have my dated printouts of all the game info and guides I printed before I was actually brave enough to roll my first character, which was in late Oct of '95 - 23rd to be 'xact) reg

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Originally posted by Siara:
Jim.. I too, hope that you don't stop your posting methods.

I'm starting to play another game now, and I notice the 'old timers' of that game doing the very same thing, start a post with how long they've 'been around'. It's for the very reasons you stated.

New players don't know 'old names'. And in the hurried up world of GS -- old character doesn't equate to old timer player.

As you said, there's so very few of the GEnie players left, I have my doubts that half the ones posting that, actually did play in the GEnie days. (Read their post and you can usually tell they didn't)

Umm.. I hate to do this..really, truly, honest I do.. but yeeeewwwwwwwwwww'r wrong. That wee lil banner button to pop into GemStone on AOL came in Oct of '95. We had a little over a year before AOL went unlimited in Dec of '96.

(I only remember odd lil facts like this coz I still have my dated printouts of all the game info and guides I printed before I was actually brave enough to roll my first character, which was in late Oct of '95 - 23rd to be 'xact)

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I agree with you on the point that you can tell old-timers from fakes. The one thing that definitely determines a lot is when you run names by people. In GS...there has always been famous people that everyone knew. Understanding of history, arkati, landscape, forging spots (heehee...couldn't think of another example) definitely shows a person's longevity.

Although I do respect you very much Celtar...it isn't needed for you to nearly _always_ mention the fact of how long you've been around. Everyone knows

reg

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Originally posted by Siara:
Umm.. I hate to do this..really, truly, honest I do.. but yeeeewwwwwwwwwww'r wrong. That wee lil banner button to pop into GemStone on AOL came in Oct of '95. We had a little over a year before AOL went unlimited in Dec of '96.

(I only remember odd lil facts like this coz I still have my dated printouts of all the game info and guides I printed before I was actually brave enough to roll my first character, which was in late Oct of '95 - 23rd to be 'xact)

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I could be wrong on the date AOL went unlimited, but I thought I had about 6 months of blissful Beta-AOL GS3 before the doors opened. If it was closer to 3 or 4, that's a possibility -- I spent most of my time from December to February planning my wedding and could have been oblivious to the increase in players. But I definitely know I and other AOL-Betas spent more than 1-2 months enjoying the tales told by Kali, Zurion, Tselryk, Tedra, Shaynna, Solitaire, Kree, Jasper, Metaboculous, Bleeds, and many others, sitting in TSC.

The point of my post however was this, there are a lot of people claiming to be ICE, but they simply aren't. They aren't even AOL-Beta.

Speaking of which, if anyone is in contact with Zurion's player, I'd really love a way to contact him to say hello.

--A. reg

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Originally posted by GMAndraste:
I could be wrong on the date AOL went unlimited, but I thought I had about 6 months of blissful Beta-AOL GS3 before the doors opened. If it was closer to 3 or 4, that's a possibility -- I spent most of my time from December to February planning my wedding and could have been oblivious to the increase in players. But I definitely know I and other AOL-Betas spent more than 1-2 months enjoying the tales told by Kali, Zurion, Tselryk, Tedra, Shaynna, Solitaire, Kree, Jasper, Metaboculous, Bleeds, and many others, sitting in TSC.

The point of my post however was this, there are a lot of people claiming to be ICE, but they simply aren't. They aren't even AOL-Beta.

Speaking of which, if anyone is in contact with Zurion's player, I'd really love a way to contact him to say hello.

--A.

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I've been trying to get in touch with him since the last time he took me hunting about 6 or 7 years ago (I don't remember exactly when he left)

Neatest thing I've seen recently was seeing Tzarrakyn running around the rift. reg

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That wee lil banner button to pop into GemStone on AOL came in Oct of '95. We had a little over a year before AOL went unlimited in Dec of '96.

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Those dates sound right to me. If I remember right 10/95 or 11/95 was around the time of the 1st Juggernaut, which I remember hearing about, but not knowing what the heck it was at the time. reg

I never understood why it was 'cool' to have played a computer game for that long... I typically mumble that fact out...

~Rhain reg

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Originally posted by ZGemstone:
Those dates sound right to me. If I remember right 10/95 or 11/95 was around the time of the 1st Juggernaut, which I remember hearing about, but not knowing what the heck it was at the time.

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They were definitely there in 94 I could've sworn...maybe I'm wrong.

Izzy!

I missed that juggie...I made the second one with the ramp outside west gate.

Wow...this topic is way off course! Keep it going before it's pulled!

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