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I have to ask this question though.

In light of the recent Andraste posts that Aura spawned...I've seen a couple comments such as...[paraphrased]..."We are bridging the gap between GMs and the Players here.."..and, most recently, "GMs are being more frank here than they are on the official boards.".

My question is..Where is this happening? I truly am curious and want to read the posts.

I've seen Andraste invoke her NDA agreement and Whatley put in the standard, "Of course I can't talk about a specific case..." disclaimer. So where is the frankness that we do not see on the offical boards?

Pockets reg

Perhaps they find they prefer to hear an unsanitized, uncensored version of players thoughts and opinions rather than the "huggie huggie don't name names, don't point fingers, we don't want to offend a troublemaker now do we?" version of writings. Or perhaps not.

I do find it fascinating that on these boards we've heard more from Mr. Whatley in a month than EVER on the official boards (at least to my knowledge). Why is that?

[This message has been edited by Claire (edited 08-31-2001).] reg

This isn't feedback @ simu, it isnt the official customer service department. This is a public message board. By bridging the gap we don't mean "Come here, speak on your concerns, and all your infractions will be absolved!"... no.

Think of it this way, if you had lunch with the president of the united states everyday, and not some formal thing, just a casual meal where you talk about anything-- after awhile, he'd look less and less like the president and more like any ole joe right?

And take it a step further, if you see someone standing on a podium somewhere, just blasting the president, making all these assuptions, you stop and think "is he talking about joe?" hmmmmm.

The point is to gradually stop thinking of GM's as a some evil thing/it/demon spawn , but a player.

Its about improving the general feelings we have for each other, not about fixing specific problems. Besides, i think an open invitation to come and talk about any problem in game is a pretty good deal if you ask me, and the best they can possibly do in this medium.

So come at it with an open mind, from both sides. Let the GM's feel confortable speaking their mind on some issues (but yet don't treat them special just because they are GM's).

Without the tag of officially acting on behalf of simu, they are more apt to discuss their personal feelings/views on issues.

Beleive it or not, some of them are in the same boat as you on certain GS issues. We all play the same game, after all.

Thats the key. Build on the common ground. Thats what bridging the gap is all about. Maybe he/she isn't so different, maybe they aren't so bad afterall. Maybe i had the wrong idea.

This works on both sides. Its a two way street.

Bridging the gap is meeting up somewhere in the middle.

'lood
reg

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Originally posted by kelood:
I think you've misunderstood what bridging the gap means.

The point is to gradually stop thinking of GM's as a some evil thing/it/demon spawn , but a player.

'lood

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I don't see anyone calling GM's evil/the devil/satan/the anti christ here. I see a lot of people OVER reacting in response to some critical remarks given their past performance. Just because we the players who have seen less than stellar customer service doesn't mean we are labeling these people or even remotely judging their personal character or morals.

Is that clear yet?

-who seems to smell a certain way to 'lood....

-maturity was used in the making of this post and can be found at your local grocer

reg

::shrug:: I've seen any number of posts on the official boards where they state that they are giving their personal opinion on something and not Simu policy.

I really do not see anything different here that I see over there...GM wise...Player wise, is a different story. I see MANY more posts by players that they'd never get away with on the official boards. That's what brought me here to begin with.

I certainly don't think all the player posts are valid or even true. Nevertheless, there is a certain freedom in being able to express yourself here that you don't get anywhere close to over there.

At least, it seems, unless you are pointing out a GM's flaws.

Personally, I don't think of GMs as satanic worm spawn. By the same token, I've seen far too much crap to support them totally. At least a few in particular, anyway.

Pockets reg

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Originally posted by Lord Deprav:
Aura, the main point 'lood was stating is that you should not make comments containing their past.

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Anything that happens and then, I emphasize after it happens is in the past. If we can't make a statement over a GM's behavior then no one would know if it is repeat behavior and a problem.

Last time on this also. There is no way to know if your message in game is REALLY going to get to the right person or just be changed/edited/deleted altogether.

Most of the time anything said negatively about GM's, ESPECIALLY in game will get you locked out without any regard as to the validity or otherwise. This also will bring about intense scrutiny by all the other buddy GM's of the one you were critical about.

Is this especially odd or out of place?

No. It is human behavior. Friends will do things for friends. If the company was more professional it would be less so and follow more a line of integrity.

What people "should" do or shouldn't isn't the question. Basic responsibility and realization of what GM's do is the key to first solving the problem. I think this BBS is a great place where GM's can see first hand that people do take notice where they are not afraid of in game consequences.

The reason they are afraid are also supported by historical actions based on past Simu actions.

-database search complete... reg

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At least, it seems, unless you are pointing out a GM's flaws

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All members of this board are treated equally, and protected equally by the moderators and administrators.

Bringing up specific instances of mistreatment is one thing, general GM mudslinging is quite another.

If you can't discern the difference, well, ... thats why we're here.

'lood

reg