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People seem to want to make a subjective measurement that if "you get a few trainings a year", then you are potentially a good roleplayer.

But, if you are older, and get more than X trainings per whatever time frame they want to throw out, then you are most likely NOT a good roleplayer - and that you haven't stopped to "smell the roses".

I find this position absurd. The rate you train is a measure of a variety of mitigating factors - from how many hours you work at your job a week, to how many other games/hobbies you enjoy during your free time (like Dragonrealms, Everquest, mountain climbing, swimming, etc.). If you have to work double shifts to meet your household expenses, you are going to have less time than someone that won the Powerball lottery and is retired.

A person that has more free time and spends it playing Gemstone exclusively on ONE character, will usually have more trainings than someone that has less free time, and/or splits their time up on numerous other characters/activities.

It means NOTHING from a roleplaying perspective.

If someone asks how did so-and-so get to be so old, I immediately ask them:
1. How long have you been in Gemstone?
2. How many characters in TOTAL have you had through the years?
3. How many characters do you play in total now?
4. How many hours do you play Gemstone a day?

The "I've been in the game for 6 years, have had 10 characters in total, play 3 characters now, and play Gemstone 1 hour a day on average because I play Dragonrealms, and tennis in my free time too" answer is clearly self-evident as to why they don't have ONE old character.

Perhaps a better question would be - why should they even care the rate that another person trains? The position of "well, I don't want them ruining the roleplaying atmosphere of the game" is flawed.

If they are powerhunting non-stop, then you'd never see them in the first place other than in passing while in a hunting area. If you are roleplaying, then you'd rarely see them.

My 2 cents. reg

Too many people in this game think that THEIR way is the only right way to play. I do my thing and let everyone else do theirs. reg

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Originally posted by NoOneImportant:
I say, to each their own. If someone wants to hunt all the time and gain levels fast - good for them. If someone else wants to sit around at Hearthstone 24/7 and roleplay - good for them too.

Too many people in this game think that THEIR way is the only right way to play. I do my thing and let everyone else do theirs.

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NOI I haven't disagreed with you in a quite awhile...and I'm not about to change now.

I agree with you totally.

My take on the subject is this:

(This is the overall population's view)

Powerhunter: Anyone that can get from level 0-50 before a time of say 6 months (Purely a hypothetical number). Anyone that can reach level 90 before a time of say 1 year (Purely a hypothetical number).

My permanent definitions of powerhunters are this: People who have absolutely no interaction with anyone in GS, only people that raise and heal them. People that just simply do not care about meeting anyone. And people that know the experience/mana pool pulses by heart and can get to the node every single time for each pulse.

Yes...powerhunters in that ideal are no longer around, of course, because you make no more on a node that you do off a node if you have certain LO and IN bonuses.

Today's powerhunter: Scintillion.

You keep a either a) a permanent wizard around to keep you hasted b) you keep someone around to bind everything for you c) you have every spell list and therefore have no need to need any help whatsoever from anyone in the GS community, other than your other accounts.

Does any of this bother me at all? Absolutely not. Hey...it's your game...play it how you want to.

And yes, NOI, great point...which I've never really thought of. People that choose one path always complain about the other path because they're simply not doing what _you're_ doing.

reg

Sonic reg

Sonic reg

Mike

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He is really strange. He has a rogue, cleric, wizard combo usually. Sometimes its a warrior. He gets them to legend in a very short period of time, leaves, or sells them. Comes back in a couple months and does it all over again.

Its very strange.

Buckwheet reg

The Diago reg

Sonic reg

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Originally posted by Manodith:
heh in reply to who ever said Scint is long gone so whose the best power hunter leveler now? Scint was a good to decent fame hunter but exp wise he wasn't much better then the average. My team who most people know but shall remain nameless was probably by far exp wise the best levelers ever. I remember once in a 24 hour period we got 85K exp (yes its posible well it used to be.) Had our character who we were progressing in wind wraiths at training 20 fring off two kills (before all these new lame caps) But anyways we are all pretty much gone now too so I dunno.

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So you're the person who ruined it for the rest of us...

Good to know. reg

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Originally posted by JustLilOlMe:

(This is the overall population's view)

My permanent definitions of powerhunters are this: People who have absolutely no interaction with anyone in GS, only people that raise and heal them. People that just simply do not care about meeting anyone. And people that know the experience/mana pool pulses by heart and can get to the node every single time for each pulse.

You keep a either a) a permanent wizard around to keep you hasted b) you keep someone around to bind everything for you c) you have every spell list and therefore have no need to need any help whatsoever from anyone in the GS community, other than your other accounts.

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That's not true, i must disagree, I interact heavily in gemstone3, and in one month i gained almost like 20 trains, cause i pwerhunted like a beast, yet i STILL interacted with my friends, i met new people, i even merchant on the net and made quite a bit, i powerhunt, yet i still interact witht he gemstone communiity, so you can't base all powerhunters on what you say cuase its not true

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Detriot what? reg

Mike reg

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My permanent definitions of powerhunters are this: People who have absolutely no interaction with anyone in GS, only people that raise and heal them. People that just simply do not care about meeting anyone.

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JustLilOlMe is therefore excluding you because you state

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i still interact witht he gemstone communiity, so you can't base all powerhunters on what you say cuase its not true

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And I disagree with Methais being a powerhunter, if only because I used to hunt with him long long ago in Warfarers when we were near 20. That was 3+ years ago.

I honestly consider true powerhunters the people I've never seen hide nor hair of, nor even a whisper of a rumor of, suddenly appearing on the top of the fame charts.

To me, a powerhunter is one who gains a heck of a lot of levels in an incredibly short amount of time. Roleplaying or the lack thereof,doesn't really come into the equation. I've powerhunted. And I've also gone for year without nary a level. And I've known several powerhunters who were incredible RPers. You just had to be able to find them to see them in action.

Aerienne

[This message has been edited by Aerienne (edited 03-20-2002).] reg

Unless they poach people. All they will be doing is running a treasure system down in a certain area. Which we all know, if you are looking for treasure then you can go to another area to hunt for it.

So how does powerhunters\levelers hurt Gemstone?

As for the best leveler. There is a surprise coming..............

edge reg

Seriously though, I was just wondering where or who said that it hurts Gemstone.

If you never saw or heard from them and then found out they were old, does it really matter? Do you have to know everyone in the lands?

It just seems like a rather silly thing to argue about. It also seems to me that people that have a bug up their butt about "powerhunters" is because they're probably jealous of that person's time, energy or stamina to do it in the first place.

People worry WAY too much about what everyone else is doing. How someone powerhunting in Solhaven affects you that lives in Ta'Illistim needs to explained to me.

*All the "you's" are general you's. Not directing this post to anyone in specific. Thanks.*

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Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things. reg

Guess you have never read the official boards about this then.

GMs can do more harm then ANY pc can..::cough:: Just like the police can do more harm then any criminal and get away with it. Oh wait. Police never do anything wrong...::cough::

edge

reg

Took me two years to get 26 trains with Anticor. Seen someone that I hunted rats with pick up 50 trains, does it bother me? No. To each their own

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Anticor Rifling, Giantman Wizard reg

Sonic reg

Example. Avator had missed only 9 triple training at the age of 109. Because I gave up CM, lots of shield use. Also gave up physical training so he had low blood for a long time. So he needed help till 20th level. Then he was self sufficient. I put all his triples in the clerical circle to be able to repel better. He could bless magical metal at 24. When I parted with him at 109 he had 250+ clerical spells.

edge

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Sonic reg

edge reg

But...and this is a rather large but.

When said characters who don't know what this game is truly about get to a point where they decide to try and RP...thats when the conflict comes. Don't get me wrong...I know many of each stripe of gamer. It doesn't make them bad people. But a few of them really do ruin it for the rest at times. Multi-accounters were the worst because it was just downright blatant. An abuse of then current game mechanics and defeating the "spirit of roleplay" This IS a ROLEPLAYING game after all.

I hate that gemstone has been slowly geared to a more group hunt environment even though I consider myself a roleplayer. Why? Because I took pride in being able to kick ass on my own. Because I liked the solitude that the hunt provided. People who multi-accounted their way to the top would never understand that. And for some..maybe they were just so weak they HAD to have help. <shrug> thats ok too. Honestly Im not putting them down. I just dont agree with their method.

I can also say the same for people who RP 24/7. They are just as obnoxious because they feel the need to steal the "limelight" as it were in any given situation. They think they know how to RP better than anyone else, are condescending and downright rude. <chuckle>

I used to be one of the best levelers in the game without a doubt till the undead gap came. I could train 4 times a week. SOLO. Who cares? Fact is...its a game. Lets play.

~Q

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Here endeth the lesson... reg

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Detriot what? reg

Summir reg

An extreme of anything is not good on general principles. People who roleplay 100% of their time in the lands are very nasty, rude, condescending people who think they have the right and authority to tell other players how to roleplay. Same goes with people who hunt 100% of their time.

It's when they stop and add the other aspect in after a long time that it gets harder to do and then becomes a problem. Unfortunately it's also because the purists label others and base it on what "level" of hunting/roleplaying they should be at.

"Oh you're in your 109th training and you don't know how to do the smiles, ACT's and all the other verbs? You don't know the history of the lands? <snorts> Nice." and walks away.

"You've been in the lands for 5 years and you're only level 10? What's the matter with you? What's the point of getting RPA's if you're not going to use them?"

I accept anyone and how they play because no one's perfect. The only time I can't go on playing with someone else is when they are blatently OOC, as in saying AS/DS/TD numbers, not understanding my roleplaying and saying to me 'how can you not know that.. you're in your 40's'.. all said outloud instead of in whispers. Even when I whisper to them that OOC shouldn't be said outloud, they tell me to get over it because it's just a game. Those are the people I can't tolerate. ::shrugs::

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Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things. reg

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Originally posted by Zentalin:
If I wished, I could gain Zentalin a level per day and finish the rift in 37 days. (101 now) but I have to go to school. Maybe I'll do it a week straight in the summer for kicks.
-Zentalin

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You can do this, you can do that, you can do everything, because you are just SOOO DAMN GREAT! reg

Sonic reg

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Aerienne reg

I thought Frozenstar was the godliest powerhunter of all time. He made legend in a month, with old meditate and that special RPA you got from switching to the web early or whatever.

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Anyway.... If you are able to make a Train a Day.. There is a problem. If you are able to make a train every two days.. There is a problem. If you are able to make a train every three days.. Your a cleric. If you are able to make a train every four days... Hey I can do that sometimes! etc. Etc. etc.

Andiago reg

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Mistikris opens her eyes, looking slightly drained

Lady Mistykris's group just went east. reg