The Players Corner Archive

Warning for the opening of EN

I have this bad feeling. Like with the rift opening. They might send some monster that will make you drop or disarm your gear.

They did this in the landing with lost souls. Just for the purpose to test some type of Janitor tracking system. They feared everyone in the room. Then imploded.

So, take a set of invasion gear with you. Just basic stuff while exploring the new hunting areas.

Also, might be the day of breakage like everyone is fearing. So, be prepared with a spare set of everything for this openeing.

Just wanted to give people some advice on this day. Don't let the sickos (Staff that get off on ruining everyones gaming experience) ruin your day.

I for one will not be going till everything settles down a bit. Going to wait and see what people say about the advanced hunting areas. If it's not going to be a viable hunting grounds. Why bother walking there? Seen the town already.

edge

reg

You've already seen all the room descriptions and layout of Ta'Vaalor?

Mike reg

Category Artisan Skills (8)
Topic Artisan Skills General Discussion (1)
Message Re: Release date? (44)
By GS3-MIKOS from PLAY.NET (Mikos)
On Sep 27, 2001 at 21:46

We were shooting to have forging and fletching ready to go with EN2, but right now it looks like they'll be lagging by a week or so.
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Since breakage isn't suppose to go in until forging does - looks we have a week or so, til it does. reg

Honestly droppage will no longer make any real difference at all. Even new players of this game now start up second accounts to play Gemstone with.

For the past six to eight weeks I've been spending a lot of time wandering around in every area but the Rift, The Eye of V'Tull and Bonespear.

What have I seen? Rampant MBSSE-ing going on. This is how the game is played and how new players are taught that the game is played.

Breakage, droppage..hell even if the whole body decay and items fall to the ground concept were re-activiated, it wouldn't effect most.

Sadly this is the state of most games now a days online. Between this and the rampant buying and selling of characters. I honestly do not understand it.

People were and are taught the wrong reasons to play multi-player games. Concepts like aiding each other, rescues, roleplaying and just plain interacting with others are taking a side line to "Advancement". Being able to advance and not interact with anyone.

I personally just do not know how much longer I'll even be here. I find myself here in the game less and less. I'll log in earn a few kay exp, spend some time interacting with others and then log out.

Someone asked me why I can't just ignore it, my comparision is that its rather jolting of the mood of the game. Sort of like a House of Ill-repute being across the street from a Church.

Sure you can attempt to ignore it, but it will always distract and jolt you from what ever mood your in. Whether its as the person going to the House of Ill-repute or the person going to the Church.

So since so many now Multi account and raise their characters as such, I really do not see droppage as anything but a minor annoyance for those who hunt.

Jim

reg

Celtar,

I only wish it was people like you, me, Aurach, and many others that saw this crap coming way before it became like this. All the MAers are blatant now, they don't even try. The best is when you locate someone who's died maybe 1 minute after, and they are up alive with two people standing over them in a safe place, then those two mysteriously log out. Sometimes now I even see log in, unstun, log out, or the absolutely horrid, log in, cast bind, log out repetitively.

I've got the same problem with IM and all the other outside communication. I don't give out my IM or AOL name to anyone, why? I don't want the temptation to call them up when I'm dead. To me that's just like cheating on a test. Also, IMs account for the huge number of people that swarm upon invasions/merchants these days too, even if the invasion is in the EN or somewhere far off, all of a sudden people are there. It just shouldn't be done.

-Revalos reg

quote:
Originally posted by Celtar:
Honestly droppage will no longer make any real difference at all. Even new players of this game now start up second accounts to play Gemstone with.
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So since so many now Multi account and raise their characters as such, I really do not see droppage as anything but a minor annoyance for those who hunt.

Jim


Unfortunately it's still a major problem for those of us who do not multi account and will probably be the end-game for that type of player.

~Sayrena reg

This isn't directed at anyone, but these last few posts sure made me feel bad.

I have at last count 8 accounts. Now there are several reasons as to why I do this.

1. Seperate play.net addresses. Most of my accounts are character names.

2. Posting on the message boards. See reason one.

3. I don't want friends of one character in the game to find out who my other characters are and just be my friend because of the person behind the screen. Several of you here are good friends with me in general, but you only know one or two of my characters. Its very hard to hide behind the same login name.

4. Premium houses. I have a couple characters who have houses, but you can only have one per account, and these characters would look pretty silly sharing a house and then it would give away who is behind the screen.

AIM I give out my AIM and people do IM me if I die and ask if I need help, and vice versa. Nine times out of ten I already have seen several locates and just say Nah someone is here.

Do I use my characters to help eachother? Yes I do. But I also never have all 15 of them in at once. I usually just have two maybe three. I have had several interactions with people and so far very few people have been able to tell I was controlling both of them. In no way am I braging, but I enjoy being more then one person at once, it makes it a little more challenging. I even go so far as to talk to myself(rp between the two) and when people find out I am the same person they are shocked usually.

Anyway...the reason these posts made me feel bad is because I have been MAing since the move to the web and it made me feel guilty of contributing to what you folks are experiencing.

Now don't start apologizing or anything, your posts made me think twice about what I am doing, however I still will continue to do it.

I just wish someother people could re-think how they go about it.

Buckwheet reg

Finally, someone who can explain!

Buckwheet, you say you've been Multi- Accounting since the move to the web. You roleplay your characters, and you use them to help each other out.

Roleplaying the characters, whether separate or together, gains you nothing but the joy attained by doing it well. However, when you use them to give one another an advantage not readily attained by a single-account player, in-game gains are accrued as a direct result of the multi-accounting.

Now, mind you, I have no real opinion pro or con on this issue. By my mind-set, it doesn't affect me, so I don't give it much thought. What I'd like to ask, however, is: I understand what the roleplaying gives you, but...what is it you're seeking (in the context of a roleplaying game) that is attainable only through multi-accounting?

I've wondered so many times why people do this. I'd love to understand, if I'm capable of understanding. reg

Multi accounters aren't doing anything that 2 friends logged on at the same time can't do. Buckwheet roleplays his different characters and as long as he continues to do that I don't see any problem at all.

It's the ones who use secondary accounts as "slaves" who have no personality, who exist ONLY to offer mechanical support to their other characters that I have a problem with. I consider that cheating.

R
reg

quote:
Originally posted by Desharei:
Multi accounters aren't doing anything that 2 friends logged on at the same time can't do. R

This isn't a single-player game, it is a mutli-player roleplaying environment. Buckwheat is doing something that two friends aren't doing, defeating the spirit of the game.

It's really sad, I hunted Varuner for a while, and there would always be this one guy, three zombies all hunting together, plus his empath in the great hall. It is sickening.

The point of this game is to roleplay, interact with others, MA'ing does nothing but shut down interaction. I've seen maybe two instances of MA'ing being used positively to increase the roleplaying environment. The rest were people spelling each other up, or attempting to get more than one character leveled at once.

The MA'ers don't affect me in game for the most part, aftr all if they did, they might lose the race.

Chris
reg

Btw I do apolgize for starting my rant. I was feeling down about the state of the game and pondering what was getting me to this feeling.

Sadly that was the main issue that really grows old on me. I can actually ignore the sold characters a great deal of the time.

Its this jarring aspect of MAing as its become that really is the hard issue for me.
I'd be able to turn a blind eye on it more easily if it wasn't so obvious and out front like its become.

I truly do understand the concept that folks play the game for many reasons. I just wish the spirit of the game was better preserved.

Btw I almost lost my claid in bog spectres down in Ta'Vaalor..damn thing sheer feared my sorcerer and dropped him quickly enough that I didn't lose the claidhmore. Got my blood pumping for sure.

Anyhow After a great eve down town with the people behind Daelynn, Krylan, Claw, Reyvin and five new folks who I am still sorting out. I am in a good general mood. The food was good and the company better

Jim reg

If I thought I could handle the pressure, I'd have split Courtine and Bestatte onto two different accounts and RPed them together from the very beginning. I always thought seeing them interact with each other would be such a hoot!

Bestatte might have given her a shot of 414 and 107 when they were done, if it made RP sense at the time for her to be helpful. Courtine was RPed as "Da Mistress's" servant (not slave, servant), rescued from an orphanage by Bestatte. But because they were on the same account I was never able to play them together.

Plus I don't think I'd have been able to play both at the same time. I'm just not good at that. But it might have been fun to try.

R
reg

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While theres crap like breakage, down tweaking bolts etcetera im not gonna go out of my way to please a company thats trying to destroy what fun i still have in gs...snicker

live and let live what i always say reg

I am not sure I understood your question, but helping eachother out doesn't mean full wizard spell ups it means striking up a converstaion with them to start a larger RP event. Or group hunting, or holding an item while I re-roll.

Sure it goes beyond the scope of the game, but what I do and what you all are saying most MAers do are very different things.

Sure if I wanted to I could use my old empath to bind everything for a younger person and get them up quick, but I don't do that all the time.

Besides...

None of you know who my all characters really are and that tells me right there what I am doing is working. Unless you can say that me having access to all the characters I made is unbalancing to the point that its ruining the game for someone else I don't think I will change.

People forget that you still have to kill hundreds of creatures to get the experience I have, and take the number of wounds I have, or pick the number of boxes I have all to get to the levels my characters are.

I never use a character as a "slave". They are all constantly growing and training, just some I have played more. And I do it for the RP challenge. I like the difficulty of being a Luukosian Cleric or a sarcastic female rogue. I like being older and having respect, and I like being rich and being able to buy almost anything I want. I like to have the freedom to play any race and any profession I feel in the mood to play.

Thats why I do it. Thats why I will continue to do it, and why I will only stop MAing when my characters can no longer be linked to eachother through such simple means of communication as e-mail or message board posting. It degrades the quality of RP I think.

I hope that answers your question.

Buckwheet
reg

I don't have a second account now, and the only time I did was for a couple months, so a friend of mine could play with me. I didn't want to share the pw of my real account and 10 bucks a month wasn't too much to pay. It didn't work out and I don't have it anymore. So not EVERYONE has a second account.

I don't know what MBSSE means, so I can't comment on it, but I do know several characters who as far as I know don't have other accounts going, which means if they are, they're doing it right and it isn't obvious. What I HATE is the ones who name their multi account characters "Snert, Sneert, Snerrt, Snertt, Ssnert. Etc making it obvious even to newbies what is going on.

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He who laughs last, didn't get the joke. reg

MBSSE is one of my little things I tend to make up. Its a hold over from my days of Mechwarrior on GEnie. Where we came up with such things all the time. Some of them aren't printable.

MBSSE stands for Multi-Bodied-Single-Soul-Entities.

Jim reg

Yes, Buckwheet. You did answer my question. I think I can understand what you're striving for.

I've thought of having another account, just to play other characters off of Rysh. I can see the fun in that, since I know her best, and know how to get a rise out of her. ;-> I've just never gotten around to it.

I'm not much into levels, and neither is Rysh, so that aspect wouldn't appeal to me. Additionally, once you explained how you play your characters, I realized you're not playing them in the way I've seen others play multiple-accounts.

I guess the part I don't understand is that which drives people to use what are called "zombie" characters to advance the main character. I've always wondered why anyone would want to do that. To me, it seems to defeat the purpose for which we all come to Elanthia; however, I'm willing to accept the distinct possibility that I'm failing to see something.

I've heard it said that these are people who can't get it together in the real world, so they come to Elanthia to gain the respect and power they feel they are denied otherwise. Sorry, not buying that completely. It may be true in some few cases, but I find it hard to believe it true in all cases.

I've never been one to paint with a broad brush. There are as many reasons why people do things as there are people who do them. Being the curious type...I ask.

Ryshan's albatross reg

Glad I was able to answer your question.

Buckwheet reg