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**SERVICE FEES**

--Enchanting--

Costs of enchanting a 'plain' shield, armor and weapon. Urebririon does not do enchanting on: Weapons with any form of flares or weighting, armors with padding, or certain items with special qualities that could hinder the his work.

|-------Et'ing----------Shield---------Armor---------Weapon---------|

0x to 1x 30,000 25,000 40,000

1x to 2x 70,000 60,000 100,000

2x to 3x 225,000 200,000 250,000

3x to 4x 570,000 525,000 600,000

4x to 5x 1,000,000 950,000 1,250,000

5x to 6x 2,100,000 1,800,000 2,400,000

**SERVICE FEES**

--RECHARGING--

The cost of recharging an item will vary depending on the spell type.

Minor Circle spells can be recharged at the rate of 500 silver * the level of the spell * charges to be put in. (Max determined by Urebririon).

-Example 1: To have 20 charges of 101 (Spirit Warding 1) put in an item, it would cost 500 * 1 * 20 = 10,000 Silvers.

Major Circle spells can be recharged at the rate of 1,000 silvers * the level of the spell * charges to be put in. (Max determined by Urebririon).

-Example 2: To have 20 charges of 202 (Spirit Shield) put in an item, it would cost 1,000 * 2 * 20 = 40,000 Silvers.

Profession Based spells can be recharged at the rate of 2,000 silvers * the level of the spell * charges to be put in. (Max determined by Urebririon).

-Example 3: To have 20 charges of 919 (Wizard Shield) put in an item, it would cost 2,000 * 19 * 20 = 760,000 silvers.

Hahahahahah!

Ya, we going to se reasonable priced stuff!

edge reg

Sonic reg

You other wizards take any offense to a NPC being able to enchant when there is supposedly too much enchanted things in the lands?

I don't see the consistent application of logic here.

Hiway reg

You hear the subdued thoughts of Atheana echo in your mind:
"Anyone wanna buy a pinata? 200k each, full of prizes! I've heard that some may have big job tickets in them.. ttm"

Oh yeah, I was asking her if she had 50 of them, i want them all.

By the way, I'm currently selling the deed to the bathhouse, any int? reg

Sonic reg

It was good for blessable weapons. But thats it.

But was totally surprised they had it in the first place.

edge reg

I'm not trying to sound like a whiner or anything...but these events simply kill me. I love going 'cause a lot of people that I haven't seen in a while show up...but the greed/lack of RP/and pure idiotic behavior from people is just rediculous.

_Way too many tickets were sold this year_

But it'll definitely make up for some of the lost customer base due to breakage. reg

Christin whispers to the group, " we wanna take bets on truekillr getting picked"
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Truekillr sits down.
>
Varsus says, "k, normal alter rules"
>
Volfe just pulled her cat-shaped taffy, and it turned into some raven-shaped taffy.
>
Varsus chuckles.
>
Biminy gazes fondly at Darjun.
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Vallerii grins at Blackscythe.
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Ijhana touches her skull-shaped pin, causing it to glow brightly for a moment.
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Eylanna nods to Blackscythe.
>
Cydren nods to Takeela.
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Omnirus grins.

Elvaria says, "Ok lets pick again"
>
Blackscythe put a cup of curdled troll's blood in his tartan greatcloak.
Tristes exclaims, "I love my mom!"
>
Heathyranne exclaims, "I am nae responsible fer her killing ye!"
>
Palooka's skull-shaped pin begins muttering silently to itself!
>
Sianne applauds.
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Nadinna wrings her hands.
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Heathyranne babbles something unintelligible.
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Xulia gazes fondly at Plumbley.
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Meslillian beams!
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Hirt cringes.
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Madauria's skull-shaped pin begins muttering silently to itself!
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Minuett twists and wring her linen handkerchief with fretful motions.
>
Anarian grins.
>
Ijhana just hugged Tahlmor.
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Kammero says, "im SO ready "
>
The bandages on Dreamsykle's right arm come loose and she begins to bleed again.
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Catyana shifts her weight.
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Kyerist fidgets.
>
Elvaria says, "at midnight I have a maze for you to explore"
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Kammero smiles.
>
Harkonis begins chuckling at Heathyranne.
(Nigellah crosses her fingers tightly)
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Nikkee came through a sturdy iron door.
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Kabriel says, "Shhhh...keep it quiet please."
>
Jaxia went through a sturdy iron door.
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Minuett chews on her fingernails.
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Tahlmor just hugged Ijhana.
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Varsus nods to Volsix.
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Heathyranne says, "but if ye get picked and she makes it and yer male...ye owe me a kilt dance."
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Cyar gazes heavenward.
>
Ytassi smiles.
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Vallerii claps her hands.
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Jaxia came through a sturdy iron door.
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Jendaarah grins.
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Elvaria says, "but it has some critters"
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Tristes says, "Oh dear"
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Catyana drools.
>
Volfe grins.
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Miniscule cracks wind across the design painted on Sacru's face.
Darjun joins Tahlmor's group.
Graysalin just left.
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Elvaria says, "so be prepared"
>
Graysalin just arrived.
>
Mnoeme says, "uh oh"
Harkonis cackles!
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Morandas removes a holy iorake battle machete from in his sword case.
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Kammero says, "uh oh"
>
Merll smiles.
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Mnoeme frowns.
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Dreamsykle begins to do her best to mend her wounded arm.
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Morandas says, "dotn worry, I am armed"
Meslillian cowers.
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Varsus exclaims, "sweet!"
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Iscikella shakes her head.
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Varsus checks his equipment, adjusting and rearranging his gear.
Jendaarah shudders.
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Harkonis rubs a forest green kilt.
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Vallerii moves into a defensive posture, ready to fend off an attack.
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Shallimar wrings his hands.
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Pharadus beams happily at Elvaria!
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Sindani just gave Tristes a smooch.
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Elvaria says, "Please stand if your chosen"
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Dreamsykle put a kitty-hugging toy Sylvan empath in her stitched school bag.
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Kristleen giggles.
>
Varsus grins at Volfe.
>
Reine grins.
>
Phantazmagoriia put a midnight black velvet headcloth in his spidersilk cloak.
>
Mnoeme sits down.
Castis joins Blackscythe's group.
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Varsus grins at Volsix.
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Volfe flails her arms about.
Ysharra sits down.
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Zellerron smiles at Elvaria.
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Ijhana sits down.
>
Varsus nods to Volsix.
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Morandas put a holy iorake battle machete in his sword case.
>
Dreugar stands up.
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Tilarium leans on his staff.
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Anarian sits down.
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Elvaria says, "and if your not having fun here"
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Volfe says, "I didnt do it"
Pharadus sits down.
Kristleen joins Blackscythe's group.
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Kabriel sits down.
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Huka nods to Eylanna.
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Secilly sits down.
Blackscythe asks, "Kin I just stand now?"
Lowin sits down.
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Shallimar removes a golvern-bound spiked rolaren targe from in his mesh weapons harness.
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Huka chuckles.
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Blackscythe snickers.
>
Demonaic leans forward.
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Sianna smiles at Heathyranne.
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Dreugar sits down.
Hypolyta sits down.
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Elvaria says, "Please leave"
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Eylanna just kissed Huka.
Heathyranne is admiring Truekillr.
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Shallimar put a golvern-bound spiked rolaren targe in his mesh weapons harness.
Caladrial sits down.
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The silvery luminescence fades from around Darkcon.
>
Shallimar removes a golvern-bound spiked rolaren targe from in his mesh weapons harness.
Tilarium points at a sturdy iron door.
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Kammero laughs!
>
Tolwynn sits down.
>
Demonaic grins.
>
Zadya nods to Nikkee.
Tilarium nods to Elvaria.
>
Aerienne grins at Elvaria.
Huka starts chortling.
>
Heathyranne just tickled Truekillr.
>
Volfe chuckles.
>
Elvaria says, "have fun or we kill you"
Kabriel grins.
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Alysisa sits down.
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Harkonis grins.
>
Huka just kissed Eylanna.
>
Elvaria says, "Ok "
>
Songie begins chuckling at Atania.
Naryia cackles!
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Elvaria winks.
>
Mahrekesh sits down.
Mnoeme cackles!
>
Nigellah grins.
>
Zadya shows Nikkee her tiger-striped tail.
Pharadus whispers to the group, "sit"
Jadiss chuckles.
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Kylaeh's face turns slightly pale.
>
Opheleeah giggles.
Morandas says, "Told you she was alot Like Sukara"
>
Vallerii giggles.
Heathyranne grins at Elvaria.
Sindani grins.
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Kammero exclaims, "were having a great time!"
>
Truekillr grins.
>
Isela chuckles.
Legaris gawks at Elvaria.
Madauria slings an imflass tower shield off from over her shoulder.
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Fletchus sits down.
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Morandas says, "hehe"
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Hirt giggles.
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Volsix exclaims, "LAUGH OR DIE!"
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Jendaarah blinks.
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Volsix cackles!
>
Synne appears to be trying hard not to grin.
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Volfe says, "Die laughing"
Demonaic winks.
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Eylanna asks, "What if getting killed is our fun?"
Lunatick exclaims, "kill me!"
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Demonaic sits down.
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Elvaria chuckles.
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Demonaic grins at Fletchus.
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Turinrond chuckles.
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Castis stands up.
Eylanna giggles.
Mahrekesh grins.
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Kammero snickers.
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Lunatick ducks his head.
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Gaitlen starts chortling.
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Varsus sighs.
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Ysharra winks at Tolwynn.
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Christin looks over at Pharadus and shakes her head.
Madauria put some grey wolfskin trousers in her leather wand harness.
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Kyerist renews his songs.
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(Hypolyta flutters her golden butterfly wings excititly sending a shower of gold dust about her)
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Elvaria just opened a shadowy silk sewing kit.
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Darkcon smiles.
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Elvaria removes a shimmering crystal ball from in her silk sewing kit.
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Nanna just arrived.
Xulia gazes in wonder at her surroundings.
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Qwertina smiles.
Hypolyta smiles happily
>
Pharadus nods to Christin.
Elvaria spins her crystal ball.

The crystal ball comes to a stop pointing directly at Truekillr!

Elvaria recovers the crystal ball and says, "Congratulations Truekillr!"
reg

Bianca reg

quote:

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Originally posted by Alfador:
The same goddamn people always make the lists.

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After seeing the TK log, I rest my case.

Sonic
reg

edge reg

I for some reason don't believe that. She is a new character of a friend of ours. Try again.

edge reg

You may be new to the bard profession, but you're certainly not new to the game...which makes your use of hand/land even more inexcusable.

It's not being a pompous jackass to expect people to honor the gifts of their profession. Hand/land is a convention that has been loathed for years, and people that continue to use it keep adding to the perception that most bards don't care about loresinging or entertaining people.

If you need help with some rhymes that might actually be interesting for those around you that you're forcing to listen, you might try rhymezone.com.

Ylena
(apparently guilty of giving a damn about it) reg

The pulsing orb comes to a stop pointing directly at Omnirus!

Melusine recovers the pulsing orb and says, "Congratulations Omnirus!"

OMG!!!!! Favortism!

"I think that GM is trying to ruin everybody's good time by picking that guy, he must have tons of GMs IMing him! I mean, who does that guy think he should get picked? He's so lame, he doesn't deserve an alteration at all!"

Now you know how old and retarded favortism claims become after a while.

Bianca

PS. Summir/Christin/whoever else you play, the point of my message had nothing to do with you. reg

So.. why is it considered favortism when someone else gets an alteration and you don't?

God forbid anyone has any luck now and then, I haven't seen TK on any list but that one in EG so far. I'm sure everyone likes their parade pissed on by screams of favortism everytime they make a list or get lucky.

Bianca
reg

First of all how i play my character is none of your business. Second of all you say you'd gladly pull me aside for some instruction, well the whole reason we got angry is the way you went about berating Christin, hence Pompas jackass comment. You publicly humiliated her to her face and on the net which was totally rude and uncalled for. I have never seen anyone berated for using hand/land, where do you think i got it? i have seen it used when i've asked for singing and saw nothing wrong with it. I am not usually playing a bard and don't pay attention to what bards do when i'm not playing one. Guild speak would have been a more polite way or that good old fashioned whispering. No i'm not new to the game but i am new to the bard profession and so far have gotten nothing as far as instruction, just belittling and insults from so called seasoned, entertaining bards. So lesson's from you..No thank you i'll pass.

Bianca i have no idea who you are but i made a prediction in-game and it happened. I didn't accuse or blame anyone. I call it as i see it and as i said in an earlier post, i never see TK in game only at merchants and he always gets picked. Left the conclusions to you folks.

Summir reg

Lirion recovers the silver arrow and says, "Congratulations Stongarn!"

>Stongarn blinks.
>Zellyle turns to Sung and cheers!
>Marnt smiles.
> * Apprentice Rnari K'tsunn joins the adventure.
Sung beams!
>Lirion spins his silver arrow.

The silver arrow comes to a stop pointing directly at Elfstan!

Lirion recovers the silver arrow and says, "Congratulations Elfstan!"

>Xeldria smiles.
>Thaylar begins chuckling at Stongarn.
>Lirion spins his silver arrow.

The silver arrow comes to a stop pointing directly at Xeldria!

Lirion recovers the silver arrow and says, "Congratulations Xeldria!"

>Najisi smiles.
Xeldria begins chuckling at Elfstan.
> * Lord Caindred Dar'sky joins the adventure.
Marnt grins.
> * Lord Ganjyn Okkahn joins the adventure.
Xeldria leans on Elfstan.
> * Lord Dling Darkwaggler joins the adventure.
* Lady Atoyoz Iltivian joins the adventure.
Sung removes a monir-hafted golvern morning star from in her leather back sheath.
* Apprentice Fynnien d'crea joins the adventure.
> * Lord Tegaron Raventer joins the adventure.
Claria just arrived.
>Zellyle says, "1 mer"
>Aralenne says, "that's four... if your counting"
>Lirion says, "Xeldria doesnt have blunt training"
> * Kediaq Dereef joins the adventure.
Cormuth just hugged Claria.
> * Journeyman Peryl Preece joins the adventure.
* Brendenn Rayker joins the adventure.
Claria joins Cormuth's group.
>Thaylar asks, "better come up with a blunt quick, eh Stongarn?"
>Claria snuggles up to Cormuth.
>Thaylar leans on Stongarn.
>Aralenne says, "OK then, three"
>Aralenne grins.
>Stongarn says, "hmm... what if i don't have a blunt weapon"
>Cormuth snuggles up to Claria.
>Stongarn grins.
> * Bartain Strummanpuf joins the adventure.
* Taimie PhantomRider joins the adventure.
Cormuth just kissed Claria.
>Thaylar chuckles.
> * Cabro just bit the dust!
>Xeldria asks, "Hrmph, and how would you know that?"
Vrairdrick begins chuckling at Stongarn.
>Xeldria mumbles something that you don't quite catch.
>Vrairdrick says, "run and get one"
> * Brendii Lepidi joins the adventure.
Lirion says, "Or Elfstan"
> * Syroke Sirorret joins the adventure.
Gwalmachei just arrived.
> * Lady Taliria Rowangrove joins the adventure.
Lirion scowls.
>Taenz says, "he knows all"
>Taenz waggles his fingers mystically at Xeldria. How nice.
> * Berillia Allendil joins the adventure.
* Glyche just bit the dust!
>Vrairdrick says, "bad people"
Xeldria stares off into space.
> * Novice Delvanion Mac'Mannion joins the adventure.
Lirion asks, "Ok, thats 2 then?"
>The powerful look leaves Claria.
tap mac> * Lady Seserous Wyned joins the adventure.
You tap a diamond studded mace.
> * Lazey Lightnin' joins the adventure.
Aralenne nods to Lirion.
> * Sartik just bit the dust!
>Lirion spins his silver arrow.

The silver arrow comes to a stop pointing directly at Stongarn!

Lirion recovers the silver arrow and says, "Congratulations Stongarn!"

"3 more>You say, "3 more"
>Taenz begins chuckling at Marnt.
>Aralenne says, "Sung and Stongarn"
> * Setel De'Varsh joins the adventure.
Thaylar laughs!
>Panthyrr says, "bah"
>Stongarn says, "2 for me"
>Lirion spins his silver arrow.

The silver arrow comes to a stop pointing directly at Stongarn!

Lirion recovers the silver arrow and says, "Congratulations Stongarn!"

>Stongarn grins.
> * Lord Sabreo Dragort joins the adventure.
Stongarn says, "3"
>Lirion spins his silver arrow.

The silver arrow comes to a stop pointing directly at Marnt!

Lirion recovers the silver arrow and says, "Congratulations Marnt!"

>Niclawes stares off into space.
>Najisi chuckles.
> * Lady Cheysuli Sul'Harai joins the adventure.
Vrairdrick says, "hmm"
>Caralain chuckles.
> * Lord Delarock Ky'Thyryus joins the adventure.
Xeldria smirks.
* Percy Perkins joins the adventure.
>Marnt blinks.
Thaylar chuckles.
>Taenz turns to Marnt and cheers!
> * Mairean MacKagan joins the adventure.
* Tinybiscuit Butterbean joins the adventure.
Marnt's jaw drops.
>Caralain says, "duck Stongarn"
>Cormuth nods to Claria.
> * Marsole D'Harvekke joins the adventure.
Taenz raises his fist at Marnt.
>Lirion spins his silver arrow.

The silver arrow comes to a stop pointing directly at Gwalmachei!

Lirion recovers the silver arrow and says, "Congratulations Gwalmachei!"

>Caralain moves to stand in front of Stongarn.
>Fireaxis stands up.
> * Lord Falonn Falconslayer joins the adventure.
* Lord Sabreo Dragort joins the adventure.
* Tirayana just bit the dust!
>Stongarn offers Thaylar a Wehnimer's promissory note.
>Elfstan turns to Gwalmachei and cheers!
> * Sabreo just bit the dust!
>Marnt says, "thank ya "
> * Marivel Armitage' joins the adventure.
Thaylar accepts Stongarn's promissory note.
* Novice Vanchor Durhith joins the adventure.
>Thaylar asks, "what's this for?"
>Fireaxis went into a silk flap.
> * Journeyman Robet Blizenbor joins the adventure.
Gwalmachei says, "if you are only working on blunts then you best pick someone else"
* Miressa Delenia joins the adventure.
>Elfstan says, "G'job, Gwal."
* Lord Bruddle Lionsroar joins the adventure.
> * Lady Mikhyzabela Ohwahnasse joins the adventure.
Aralenne says, "That's four now Lirion"
>Gwalmachei chuckles.
>Thaylar shrugs.
>Lirion nods to Gwalmachei.
> * Dianlyn Arkaen joins the adventure.
Elfstan offers Gwalmachei a mithglin war hammer.
>Trevalyn appears less confident.
>Panthyrr says, "back to 3"
>Elfstan asks, "Wanna use mine?"
>Claria just hugged Cormuth.
>Lirion says, "only blunts"
>Niclawes stares off into space.
>Cormuth just hugged Claria.
>Thaylar offers Stongarn a Wehnimer's promissory note.
> * Lord Jaggery Barrinton joins the adventure.
Aralenne says, "OK, 3"
Claria clasps Cormuth's hand tenderly.
Gwalmachei chuckles.
> * Massimilano Perifrazzato joins the adventure.
Fireaxis just arrived.
>Gwalmachei points at Elfstan.
>Aralenne flails her arms about.
>Fireaxis sits down.
> * Shanzana Loveland joins the adventure.
Elfstan says, "I probly won't get picked."
>Gwalmachei says, "pick him instead"
>Vrairdrick says, "everyone trained in blunts raise ya hand"
>Vrairdrick chuckles.
>Panthyrr raises his hand.
>Elfstan stares off into space.
> * Ramangth Aziz joins the adventure.
Sung raises her hand.
>Sung chuckles.
>Vrairdrick raises his hand.
>Marnt raises his hand.
* Mil Kortesh joins the adventure.
>(Taenz sits on his hands)
>raise handMarnt chuckles.
> * Tsabrak just bit the dust!
>You raise your hand.
>Marnt removes a flanged ancient eonake mace from in his threaded harness.
> * Lord Melan Tal'Staran joins the adventure.
Lirion spins his silver arrow.

The silver arrow comes to a stop pointing directly at Gwalmachei!

Lirion recovers the silver arrow and says, "Congratulations Gwalmachei!"

>Elfstan says, "I ain't but I's gettin' i' as a gift."
> * Siruss Sanderball joins the adventure.
* the Legendary Eau Zeau joins the adventure.
Razorfish raises his hand.
>Claria giggles.
>Najisi chuckles.
> * Geijon Khyree joins the adventure.
Caralain laughs!
>Kahrla shifts her weight.

He screwed up alot that night but he was cool as hell just shoots the random theory

Vivid reg

And for that last log, I always thought those spinners were buggy. THAT DOES NOT MEAN I THINK GM X IS TRYING TO SCREW THE REST OF US OVER WITH FAVORTISM THOUGH. Lemme just get that straight before anyone tries to use my own argument against me. ::chuckle::

Bianca, who calls it how she sees it too

[This message has been edited by Bianca (edited 10-29-2001).] reg

1) The spinner/orb/etc scripts random mechanics have been reviewed and examined by onsite staff...and determined to be functioning correctly..

2) Any GM found manipulating the random mechanics to "create" a winner, would be in violation of or our player policy which could lead to termination. If you believe you have witnessed this, I encourage you to write to feedback@simutronics.com.

3) Any GM found releasing NDA material, prior merchant information to a select group of friends or players... likewise is in violation of policy. Please also write to feedback@simutronics.com if you should become aware of this.

We aren't immune to an occasional "bad apple" any more then any other large group of people.

Krylan

[This message has been edited by GM Krylan (edited 10-29-2001).]

[This message has been edited by GM Krylan (edited 10-29-2001).] reg

Thanks!
Vividarium

P.S Brauden's plans to go on Prozac fall through? <ducks and runs for cover from lighting Bolts> reg

I know minimum favoritism exists, I'd be lying if I said it didn't. But what majority of the posts here are saying, "SIMU LIVES TO SCREW US OVER!", "Every GM is a favoritism loving bastard!", or "That girl sleeps with a GM to get her stuff!" That's what I don't agree with.

As for the spinners, unless I've seen the code on them myself.. I'm not convinced they're not buggy. Sorry, they're just too screwy in action.

Bianca reg

quote:

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Originally posted by Bianca:
Yup. GMs aren't infallible, and they aren't perfect as real Gods like some of you like to believe.

I know minimum favoritism exists, I'd be lying if I said it didn't. But what majority of the posts here are saying, "SIMU LIVES TO SCREW US OVER!", "Every GM is a favoritism loving bastard!", or "That girl sleeps with a GM to get her stuff!" That's what I don't agree with.

As for the spinners, unless I've seen the code on them myself.. I'm not convinced they're not buggy. Sorry, they're just too screwy in action.

Bianca

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www.someoneneedsavacation.com

Hiway
reg

If the name of the site is any reference to my post, I happen to think the people who constantly scream favoritism and how much the game sucks are the ones who need a vacation or a cancellation to their account. ::wink::

Bianca reg

Better read your own posts.

Seems you did point a finger at Omni and Christin. In fact. You posted their names specifically.

We can read.

Glad a GM posted to. Thanks.

People like to see them post and like to se the issues we got. These boards do get heated but seems some good comes of it.

edge

reg

quote:

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Originally posted by Bianca:
Sorry, I don't click on random porn sites people post. I've got enough of my own, thanks for sharing though.

If the name of the site is any reference to my post, I happen to think the people who constantly scream favoritism and how much the game sucks are the ones who need a vacation or a cancellation to their account. ::wink::

Bianca

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Might I suggest instead then.

www.getalife.com

or better yet

www.senseofhumor.com

Hiway

reg

Mike

Zanagan/Zarosa reg

Uhh, hey buddy. You must not read very well then, they posted their own names. Summir/Christin/whoever said she let us come to our own conclusions and I came to mine despite the implications. ::shrug::

Hiway, do you have anymore inane comments left? Dude, that poor substitute for wit as sassy internet humor is unbecoming. Get a real one that comes from actually socializing with people in real life.

Bianca

PS. Better yet, don't like what you're reading? Don't dish what you can't take. Go listen to Ms. Aretha Franklin, she might be able to teach us all something. reg

What part of that did I missread? You never witnessed this. So you lied?

Seems you need to get a grip.

www.getagrip.com. Wow I can play too!

Now what is amazing. Bianca doesn't post her game name.. Always thought that was a cowardly thing to do. Hiding behind a screen.

hahahahahaha!

So keep on trying Bianca...or whoever you are tomorrow. You only make yourself look like a fool.

edge

[This message has been edited by edge (edited 10-29-2001).] reg

I know what you mean about GMs using their abilities for items though, I'm concerned about that sometime too but when you've seen how everything works as a GM, I don't think anyone would want to go back being just a player. Then again, a GM can answer this for themselves if they're reading.

Bianca
reg

Mike

Zanagan/Zarosa reg

quote:

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Originally posted by edge:
Now what is amazing. Bianca doesn't post her game name.. Always thought that was a cowardly thing to do. Hiding behind a screen.

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On these boards? I'd file it under 'smart'. As convinced as several members are concerning GM favoritism, abuse of powers, harassment of players, vendattas against players and manipulation of game mechanics to benefit their characters, I'd assume that GMs are people you don't like. People who support and like the GMs, likewise.

I've seen examples of what happens to people that certain posters don't like. Harassed from other accounts, attacked by throwaway characters, emailed virii, repeatedly killed, gossiped about and quite a few other methods of retribution.

A GM is going to be harder to practice many of those on. Ambush one of their PCs with someone they've never seen and you're going to have a hard time in the CL proving it's not PvP. Do pretty much anything ingame, and they'll be able to come back a lot harder. OOG, well, we saw what happened to Scintillion. You want to push buttons, you might just make something happen.

If you're not staff and you post something that's unpopular, you have nowhere near the defenses available, ingame or out. Why not be smart and keep your identity under wraps so any retribution is focused against what is in essence a throwaway character?

Peace out reg

It's in no way nessecary to post your ingame character on these boards.

Some would say it's appropriate, some would say it's OOC... but there's no reason why anyone should feel obliged to reveal their character.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that it's not who says it that's important, it's what they say.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard

[This message has been edited by LordKranar (edited 10-29-2001).] reg

I have had voids chase me all over the rift till it killed me. I have had super monster appear to kill me. I use to get robbed blind until I started doing that to people that harrassed me.

This is where all the frustrated players come. Where we voice our concerns. You know what. It gets heard by the staff better the the official boards. Amazing isn't it Specto?

You can come here and say we cry. But you are the one crying about us crying. Which is worse? That is the great thing about these boards. They are uncensored for the most part.

But to say insults behind a name that is not you. That is cowardly. Amazing how many people made threats to me. Saying I am going to kick your arse at Simucon and so on. When I went both times. Nobody went through with that. Amazing how brave you are behind a monitor. So, I consider people that do it...Cowards. Not smart. Scared in fear.

NOI tried posting a dare to me on her site. She removed it most likely because I will do it. One thing I am not. A coward.

edge reg

He must be talking about the other boards. I use to get scanned right after I posted on those boards. Would drive my firewall crazy.

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If keeping my identity underwraps prevents people like you from trying to beat someone down FOR A GAME, then so be it. ::shakes head::

Kranar, thanks. I believe what I have to say is more important than who I am too. Why should it matter whether my character is well known or a peon? Who my character is in the game isn't of anyone's concern but mine.

Bianca reg

Once again! You can't read!

I called you and specto cowards. Where in there did I say I was going to beat anyone? Oh wait. You are delusional. Might need to check into a nut house? They can help those poeple.::shakes his head::

Also, Specto is in fear of his PC getting hurt.

lol

And I am the one that is suppose to be making stuff up?

lol

Amazing. When I said I would tell you to your face that you are a coward. No way implies that I am going to hit you. But knowing how scared you are. Where you can't even post your name shows that you are that scared. I am sorry if I scare you, or make you cry.

But I did say that people like you have made threats to me the last to years. That when I do go to Simucon. They backed down from those threats. Seeing that you are so much braver behind a PC screen. I think that is a cowardly act. So that must make you type of people cowards.

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There is a reason other then worrying about harrassment, why people use false names. Nice of you to try and say it is otherwise.

I don't harrass anyone ingame till they harrass me. If I did, I would be banned perma already. You know they are waiting for ANY excuse to ban me. So nice of you to show your true colors on these boards.

I have posted so many logs of people picking fights with me. I think I have more harrassment aimed at me then you both combined. But I am not scared. I can take it.

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reg

I agree.

Mike says: You can get a good feel for the condition of the game without playing the character.

They can watch anything going on at any given time without participating.

Again i agree.

From Bianca's post: Mike, how would you expect them to know what condition the game is in if they don't play the game? I, on the other hand, think that GMs should be required into playing a min. amount of hours. You ever hear the phrase, "You won't know what it's like until you've walked a mile in someone's shoes?" I think it fits pretty well in this case. GMs can't know how players feel if they don't play the game. The new, over powering cleric spell circle woulda never been released if Ophion played his PC regularly.

Well if i'm not mistaken about 98% of staff were players before GM's. They have walked the mile and been in our shoes. I think that makes for a better GM, to know what is wrong and right in game. They play alot more then you think they do. And i'm sure that Ophion along with quite a few other GM's tested and retested and had fun with the clerical spells before putting them out. You can bet they walk amongst us almost daily. reg

I understand about frustrations with turns the game has taken. I really do, but you take things so personally when there just doesn't seem a reason to do so.

I also think there is no reason to rail on so about GM favoritism as if you are Paul Revere alerting an unsuspecting populace to the redcoats.
Most actually _are_ aware that due to human weakness some favoritism will occur no matter what steps are taken to try to avoid it. I think most feel that most GMs and Hosts do their best to be fair.
If you have had a time where you were on the losing side of some favoritism I'm sorry, but you should not take that one or two bad times and use them to negate all the other times that the effort is made and better judgement is shown.

In general, just try not to take everything that happens in the lands as a personal attack. It's at best not helpful, and at worst quite egotistical to think that there is some conspiracy among a group out just to get you.
This game is supposed to be fun, please don't let it make you miserable.
reg

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Originally posted by Summir:
Well if i'm not mistaken about 98% of staff were players before GM's. They have walked the mile and been in our shoes.

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I see what you mean but the game is constantly changing and adapting to new things. Some of the GMs we have probably haven't touched their PC in years. So while they have walked in our shoes, they're not keeping up with the times. Observing isn't the same thing as doing, it may help but it isn't a cure-all for instant experience and empathy on how players are REALLY feeling.

Bianca

PS. Thanks Skirmisher, you put what I said in much more polite words.
reg

I didn't start this. This is what started it.

<<Oh, come on. That's not the first time I've witnessed yours and Christin's sour grapes>>

She comes on trying to make 2 of my friends look bad. She lied. out right lied and fabricated a delusional story. I called her a liar. Summir called her a liar. But I did call them cowards for hiding behind screen names. I got a good guess who they are though. So before you come trying to stand on higher ground. You should get facts.

They only post to flame me. Especially Specto. Tell them to grow up. Not me. I told them what I thought about them. I was honest.

I will not remove their posts. I will answer them. But apparently you are one coming to flame me to.

Good try though. Trying to take their sides. But getting friends to come or making a new name is easy.

It is my job to keep this section alive. Which I do. I bring all the issues I got here. I post logs of things that happen. If I make a mistake I say so. I am not scared like some. If you don't like it. Then post your concerns.

Oh wait! You are absolutely happy with gemstone.

Ask Andraste what her favorite thing to do to me is.. I don't mind getting killed by a GM. I never complain about that. I did post a log of super mages killing me once. So try again. I do get mad when it's blatant favoritism. I didn't complain about the spinner. So try again. Read the thread and figure out what was said.

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reg

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Originally posted by Bianca:
Some of the GMs we have probably haven't touched their PC in years.

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I am very sure this is the case. I heard a GM this summer at SimuCon talk about people doing mass spells in TSSW. How many years has it been the park?

Peace out reg

Mike

Zanagan/Zarosa reg

And no offense, I didn't embarrass your friends. Your friends already did that when they tried to defame someone else by implications just because the guy got chosen. I just pointed it out the opposing side; if that makes you mad/furious/psychotic/whatever, I've duly taken note of your point. Your friends are being better sports than you, and while I probably can't change their opinions in the way they think on favoritism, I can still have a good argument without you trying to go bonkers on everything that is said. And your job as moderator is to keep up a lively discussion in the concerns folder, that doesn't mean you're supposed to be THE ROOT OF ALL CONCERNS AND PROBLEMS. ::chuckles::

BTW, I don't need friends to stick up for me, I'm doing a fine job all by myself. The other agreeing posts are just icing on the cake.

How about we strike up a deal? After this post, you can ignore everything I post and I'll ignore everything you post. Sounds good to me.

Bianca reg

Lord Deprav
"Kinda like fishing." reg

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Originally posted by Zanagodly:
Well if a GM can't keep up with the times through observation and word of mouth through other GMs, then they aren't even a valued member of the staff and should be booted the hell out. Changes don't occur on a daily basis, its not that difficult to keep up with what is going on in the gemstone world especially when you have the ability to ask a fellow staff member specificially.

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GMs are hired for their abilities, whatever that may be, and they don't include gossiping as a requirement. You of all people should know that one of the biggest problems in GS is that the GMs don't communicate enough with each other. Word of the mouth isn't enough and it isn't the way to go. Though better communication would be great.

A GM can't possibly keep up or remember every single change and still be working on new ones. Hell, I don't even remember what the 420 change was about. It didn't involve me, and I don't remember. But when they play the game on a regular basis, they remember what's fun, challenging or just plain fustrating to players. It's only through playing the game that they can experience that with empathy.

And besides, I don't think it's right to make a GM give up their playing rights. What they do offduty is their business unless it involves abusing their abilities. I think there are probably regulations on that in their NDA to prevent these things anyway.

Bianca reg

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Originally posted by Zanagodly:
In my opinion no GM or anyone who works on the staff should even be allowed to play the product. The knowledge they attain to benefit their own characters is just unreal. To bring your character into a festival with the knowledge of what the breakage is on everything...level of padding/enchant...blessable? sanctified? etc etc is a huge bonus. I know of nothing that says its against policy for a GM to take advantage of an item for sale that is known to be great on breakage. Last year's ebon gate...not sure what the exact descript on the armor was...veniom something or other..I know it sold out like the first night...ended up selling for like 5 or 6 mill a pop after the festival was over because the breakage numbers were so impressive. Hell, if I was a GM and I knew about this, I'd buy 100 sets of the stuff. oh well

Mike

Zanagan/Zarosa

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For the truly clueless among you...

GMs often can't bring their PCs to paid festivals, it's preferable instead to allow the tickets to be sold to players, instead of taking up the limited slots.

In the event they are allowed to attend, whether or not they know anything about items is immaterial. Buying 50 and selling them would be considered an abuse of their status.

--A. reg

Actually, I'd argue the reverse.

Not playing the product makes you only see it from a conceptual basis, and not from a daily interaction basis.

Its one thing to say, "Hey, it would be cool to do this..." and not actually ever experience the change or how it affects the gaming enviroment.

You also cannot see long term character development changes. How a sorcerer with current abilities can thrive on X training path and then trying it on Y training path.

And finally, and most important of all, most everyone who is a GM is a player who really loves the game enough to become staff. Honestly, most GMs have so much work, they have little time at all to play.

Khaladon

ps- my total playing time since April is just over 10 hours :-) reg

Lord Deprav
"No TV and no beer make Home go something something. Do you mean go crazy? Well wouldn't mind if I do." reg