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A.) It is against POLICY for a GM to be fair.
B.) It is against POLICY for a GM to follow their own POLICY.
C.) There is only one nice GM.
D.) Yes, there is in fact one nice GM.
E.) GMs will purposely put you into situations where they can give you warnings.
F.) GMs give you warnings out of nowhere so that they can ban you.
G.) GMs hate intelligent people that know how ignorant they are.
H.) GMs hate anyone that isn't a bouncy, giggly, perfect epitomy of love and kindness.
I.) GMs hate me because I am too smart to give them anything they can warn me for.
J.) They pray on the weak because they can.
K.) Wow, that sounds like me.
L.) They are much more 'jerky' about it.
M.) Their stupidity cracks me up, and that is the main reason I continue to play GS.

-Prince Sortik reg

the prince has gotta go reg

'lood
good word puzzle...

reg

Andraste, Kaylia and Tigermist are the absolute best. They are the epitome of what a "Good GM" is. Andraste is fair, Kaylia is diligent, Tigermist is fun... and they are all *nice*.

If it wasn't for Andraste, I wouldn't have the clean record that I have today. She saved me from being a life-time member of S.N.E.R.T.

If it wasn't for Kaylia, I wouldn't even have a single alteration today. But thanks to her, I now have over 20.

If it wasn't for Tigermist, being premium would suck and I'd have never had my greatest idea ever (Female GMs Illustrated: Swim Suit Edition).

The rest of the GMs aren't neccissarily bad... judging them as a group is difficult, because any time you say "ALL" red flags should go up.

But as a general rule, the other GMs I have encountered besides them have been rather mediocre and irritable.

Three GMs stand out as the worst and most corrupt (in my eyes at least). They are like the exact opposites of Andraste, Kaylia and Tigermist.

I won't say their names... but one had me kicked out of CoL for ::gasps:: role-playing.

The second was the same one that locked Sortik out for killing a guy that swung at him.

And the third seems nice enough... and he was... until his cookies became corrupted by GM politics and his once gentle soul was tainted and twisted by power.

There are good and bad GMs in GemStone III... just as there are good and bad players.

I plan to be one of the good ones.

- The Klaive reg

Everyone should be treated equally, and fairly. In all of my dealings with GMs, i was politely curt, as most of them are with players... Doesn't matter if i was thinking daggers and knives flying at them, i was clear, concise, logical, and to the point.

This apparantly infuriated more then a few, since how dare _I_ a meager player <and a basic 9.95 one at that, with no extra character slots or anything> not RECOGNIZE the POWER these mythical beings hold?

How _DARE_ i not bow down before them in utter humility, and beg them to save me from their divine wrath?...

There's the problem... once you got power, it goes to your head... think about it... if you had bin laden in your home, unarmed, and you had a gun, pointed right at his head... Tell me the power wouldn't get to you, and as he yammered on in another language, you wouldn't chuckle and think of just how you could make him suffer for what he did?...

That is how the GMs work... We are all the terrorist in that situation, and they are the ones holding the guns, plain and simple..

Urgoyle-Who never imploded the park, imploded tsc, meteor stormed anywhere, or even eyespy-evileyed the entire crypt, as tempting as it's been..

Why treat me like a terrorist if i am not? Wasn't the 'mutual respect' policy put into place to prevent people <players or GMs> from going off on righteous rampages? reg

Cough cough cough.... FAVORATISM, cough cough, mutter grumble cough cough

reg

No offense to Klaive's player, but using a little common sense I think in contrast with his past actions in game compared to mine is proof enough.

I pale in comparison.

If you disagree with staff, even if you follow policy they will warn/lockout you. That is black and white. They use pride and not logic.

Andraste was one of the most sarcastic and aggresive GM's to me in the past and a single time (yes, once) she treated me as an adult.

Gm's play this I gotta secret game all the time. Just be upfront and tell people what you think. You are not private detectives or homicide investigators. You are customer support representatives for a company that is supposed to actually make revenue.

Educate, help, and assist people don't berate, intimidate, and harass them.

Hiway

P.S. Andraste tells the selective "truth". Ask what she did when a player in a consultation lounge outright ridiculed me, harassed me because of my age and profession. She did nothing. That player stayed in the game. She is fair? I don't see it. reg

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Originally posted by Rusval:
Cough cough cough.... FAVORATISM, cough cough, mutter grumble cough cough

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Same reason Neimanz, Giantphang, Marietta/Sergey, Augie/Washee, Cleodelia, Elendryl, Aquamarine, Jubuls, Huka and others have at least as many, right?
reg

Not complaining, but if you can afford to have more then one acount. Then your chances should be better.

But on the other hand. I got a log of a merchant appearing in front of Angellisa. You see the person log on and run into the and go directly into the wagon before she could even comprehend what was going on. Think it was within 9 seconds(she had a 3 second heal down and casted 3 times) of the wagon appearing. See if I can dig that log up for you. Since you don't think people get advance notice. Then when she whispered to someone about it. The merchant got offended. Wow, how OOC can a merchant be. Listening to someones whispers. I got a kick out of it.

I can't seem to find the log right now. Asked a friend for a copy of it and they are looking for it. But if you know Angellisa ask her to. She might still have the log.

edge reg

~ Kaliopia/Celeri... reg

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Originally posted by edge:
You forgot MAing to get tons of alters. That is what the people with the most alters do. Pack the room with accounts.

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Oh yeah, definately! How do you think most, if not all of the above have them in the first place? There's a reason I put those partnerships as 1 person, not 2.

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But on the other hand. I got a log of a merchant appearing in front of Angellisa. You see the person log on and run into the and go directly into the wagon before she could even comprehend what was going on. Think it was within 9 seconds(she had a 3 second heal down and casted 3 times) of the wagon appearing. See if I can dig that log up for you. Since you don't think people get advance notice. Then when she whispered to someone about it. The merchant got offended. Wow, how OOC can a merchant be. Listening to someones whispers. I got a kick out of it.

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You want to know something really nuts? I've run over a merchant. Literally. They've *just* announced they're playing hide-and-seek for alterations, I'm walking around town without a freakin' clue. I see them in the street, pause and say "What the hell?", then hit 'n' and walk back. Went something like this:

me: Um, hi.

>wave merchant

Merchant waves at you.

merchant: Hi there. How're you doing today?

me: Pretty good I guess...

merchant: Do you have anything you'd like altered?

>blink
(I blink too)

me: Um, sure. Gimme a sec?

Over the next 5 minutes, 30 people file in while the merchant made her a cloak. Took me four minutes to dig up the stupid text file with my planned alterations in it. reg

Why in the world do the merchants listen to whispers? Isn't the screen scroll bad enough already?

Geesh GM's stop and actually play the role of the merchant instead of poking your nose into other people's business.

No wonder most people talk via IM's nowadays.

Hiway reg

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Originally posted by Rusval:
uh thanks, we all know most of that already
punches "prince" sortik

the prince has gotta go

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I dunno. That androgynous look can be kinda sexy...

reg

The funny thing about these lists of people who get tons of alters is that they are usually just lists of people who try hard to get alters and actually utilize the calendar and have tricks to search for merchants.

My first 5 years in GS I got one alteration for being a bridesmaid in a wedding.

In the last 15 months, I have many, mainly from pay to play events like the Dhu or from being premie. It's amazing how much your odds go up from that.

Back to the topic at hand...

If you manage to make it into a room where one of Kyalia's merchants are altering, you have great odds for winning... And I really don't believe she picks favorites. She's so nice to EVERYONE and is an amazingly hardworker. If I could be a GM, I'd choose her as my role model.

Aerie reg

That is why I didn't sign Edgeleaf up for Ebons and why I only tell my close friends who I am on at merchants. Plus we never whisper anymore in merchants and use AIM. Find that we use it mainly now to talk about anything. You really have no privacy in Gemstone.

Plus, that list up there. Most of us IM each other when one of us notices a merchant come on. Then split up and search different towns. We also say if we have multiply accounts in the room, we make sure everyone in the group gets at least one alter. Called team work. Also, keep a character in every town with at least 100k on them and a couple items you want altered with the materials. Amazing how easy it is to get alters if you try. Maybe that is why I never used my premie alter yet.

edge

reg

Its KYALIA..for the love of Gods people, if you are going to kiss ass, at least do it right.

Tangent:

Nothing irks me more than to see a GM online at the SAME time their PCs are online. Krylan and Khaladon do this constantly. YES, I want the GMs to play, but I REALLY don't want them power hunting and while they rest, go be GM...

Andraste mentioned all these conspiracy theories and that GMing is like 'any other job' and how upsetting it is to hear these horrible assumptions all the time.. well if Simutronics would release information, there wouldn't be all of this speculation! But THEN you get highly irrate that we would even think we need to know all of these details! Simu (for reasons I will NEVER understand) treats their business like the FBI. It is a text-based-game. Nothing more. You do not belong to a secret cult that prays on young pc owners. This is NOT like any other job, you work for the customers. Without the community, you will have nothing to do, and that's exactly where Gemstone is heading.

I suggest you loosen the curtain and start acting like you service the customer, instead of worshiping David Whatley.

reg

>Same reason Neimanz, Giantphang, Marietta/Sergey, Augie/Washee, Cleodelia, Elendryl, Aquamarine, Jubuls, Huka and others have at least as many, right? - Spectro

I received maybe one or two alterations due to favortism, and I received one alteration due to MAing ONCE at a merchant. Every other single time, I've received my alterations with one character on one account or I bought the slot from someone else.

One thing to keep in mind is "nearly" all those names you list right there, they bring tons of accounts in at once and that's why they always receive alterations.

Another thing to keep in mind is that those people are professional (heh) merchant hunters. They know everything about the merchants. They remember what areas a certain merchant likes to pick to set-up shop, they know the geography of the game real well so that they can get anywhere within a minute or two, they have a list of every merchant in the game, not to mention they know a few other tricks to the game as well.

If you also notice, those people are nearly ALWAYS at a merchant in one form or another. That kind of increases the odds, doesn't it? ;)

It's quite simple to get an alteration and I don't know why others have a hard time doing it. The main reason is that they just don't try.

This is what I would normally do to get an alteration:

Step 1 - I have nearly every merchant in the game highlighted so once one logs in, I have a sound file play to notify me.

Step 2 - I would make a familiar and have it seek out the merchant. If the merchant isn't in the town you're in, it will say that the merchant is too far away. If the merchant -is- in your town, it will either say it's trying to find the merchant, or it will say "find who?" which means that the merchant is unpresenced.

Step 3 - Upon receiving the "searching" or "find who" message, I would see the merchant's name and quickly run to all the spots that the merchant was previously set-up at. Most merchants have about three spots they usually always use, sometimes they make new ones. So running to three spots isn't hard to do.

If the merchant picked a new spot, then I would start searching the whole town of Wehnimers inside/out/tables/underground which I can do in about 2 1/2 minutes just because I know every room everywhere.

Now if the merchant was in a different town, I can run from outside the north gate to the Icemule south gate in a minute and about 10 seconds due to having haste up. River's Rest is a joke, and Solhaven I can get there in about two minutes.

With all that done, I can basically find a merchant within 4 minutes of them logging in regardless of where they are, except for Teras as I don't multi-account at merchants and leave characters stashed in other towns...which is another way to increase your odds if you have trouble running to other towns with lightning speed.

Step 4 - If you're doing everything solo, your chances of being picked are less than if you were doing a group effort.

If doing an group effort, you need to position yourself a certain way. With the spinner, the merchant selects a number of people they want to pick from. So if there's 50 people and they do 1-10, one of the first 10 people will be picked. They also can change the number anytime they want. So if you're with a group, however many people they are in the room, try and spread yourselves out. If there's 5 of you and there's 20 people, make a gap of having four people between each of you. To position yourself, you can exit and reenter the room to be set back to the very end. So this way, someone in your group will most likely be picked.

And then of course, there's other tricks to spinners, but I have to have some advantage over everyone else since I just told you the basics. ;)

But for the MOST basic rule: if you do not go to a merchant, you cannot be picked. Only when going to a merchant do you have a chance of being picked. The more merchants you go to gives you the more chances to be picked

And that's it, plain and simple.

- Pudgee

[This message has been edited by Pudgee (edited 11-20-2001).] reg

Those are all great tips. When you know what you are doing, you can go from zero alters to many in the course of a year...

Aerienne reg

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There's the problem... once you got power, it goes to your head... think about it... if you had bin laden in your home, unarmed, and you had a gun, pointed right at his head... Tell me the power wouldn't get to you, and as he yammered on in another language, you wouldn't chuckle and think of just how you could make him suffer for what he did?...

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Actually... I'd put the gun away and tell him to get out of my house. What the hell is he doing here? I don't like strangers in my house, I don't care if you're a homeless bum, bin Laden or President Bush. Get out of my house! Unless of course you have millions of dollars in cash and prizes for me, then you can stay just long enough to gimme my check.

As for Kyalia (I think it's Kyalia, I can't remember the spelling. I have her highlighted like everyone else, so it's not neccissary. :P), allow me to explain...

She gave me my first alteration. This prompted me to actually start going to alterers instead of just dismissing them. Over the next year, I recieved about 8 more alterations by her, because I only went to her alterers.

I gave a couple of those alters to Crimsana and recently one to Zadya, but kept most.

Then when I married Crimsana, Kyalia was my wedding GM. She was the one that helped me get all my stuff fleshed out and decided upon. She was GREAT. I attribute those items to her as well and counted them in my overall total.

Kyalia and I are friends. But I assure you, there is no playing favorites going on.

- The Klaive! reg

Ummm, I do???

I haven't logged 10 hours as a PC since April of this year.

I have only one prime pc and none in plat.

Just for fun, here are the last couple months I looked up.

May - 2.5 hours June - 3 hours

July - 0.5 Aug - 0.5 Sept - 15 mins

Oct and Nov to date - ZERO

Do you consider this powerhunting?

Sorry, this simply misinformation. I wish I had more time to play, but between training, weddings, Platinum, merchants, invasions, events, and other things I am involved in, this is simply not true.

Khaladon
reg

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Originally posted by GSKhaladon:
>Nothing irks me more than to see a GM online at the SAME time their PCs are online. Krylan and Khaladon do this constantly. YES, I want the GMs to play, but I REALLY don't want them power hunting and while they rest, go be GM...

Ummm, I do???

I haven't logged 10 hours as a PC since April of this year.

I have only one prime pc and none in plat.

Just for fun, here are the last couple months I looked up.

May - 2.5 hours June - 3 hours

July - 0.5 Aug - 0.5 Sept - 15 mins

Oct and Nov to date - ZERO

Do you consider this powerhunting?

Sorry, this simply misinformation. I wish I had more time to play, but between training, weddings, Platinum, merchants, invasions, events, and other things I am involved in, this is simply not true.

Khaladon

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Hey Khaladon, you state these facts, give us the way and ability to prove it, give us the tools to prove you are honest and telling the truth...

Oh wait, you can't do that, GM rules and all.

Now perhaps you see where players are coming from... You are human, as are we, yet you are given powers we are not, and you use them as anyone else would.

If you have a bad day, people suffer, and no matter how honest you are, people will still never believe you, because of the plain and simple fact that you CAN do anything you want and get away with it, Policy doesn't apply to you people, and it should.

The only problems with GMs are that there are not enough 'sentinels' employed just to monitor GM activities.... but then again, even if there were, nobody would believe them...

Again, nobody can trust anybody else in this game, when anybody can be...... say, you know what this is? It's the Matrix, plain and simple... That citizen next to you could be a GM agent... the flower-girl could be an agent, anything could be, and it's kind of ridiculous to have to play in fear because a GM is mad at you, and looking for any reason to dispose of you.

PS-Why when a player meteor swarms the park or TSC, he's permanently banned, yet you guys can simply <i must've seen it 5 times or so> go to the boulder <since nobody likes those people> or anywhere else, type 'spawn krag dweller' <or whatever the command is> and hammer the enter key a few hundred times, just because you feel like it? reg

GM tools can't be given to non-GMs. You can choose to believe me or not. Any GM can verify it.

>Oh wait, you can't do that, GM rules and all.

To use another example, I am the operations manager for my company in my day job. I don't give access to my system to my customers to verify things either.

>Now perhaps you see where players are coming from... You are human, as are we, yet you are given powers we are not, and you use them as anyone else would.

Yep, completely and utterly, and always willing to admit when I am wrong.

>If you have a bad day, people suffer, and no matter how honest you are, people will still never believe you, because of the plain and simple fact that you CAN do anything you want and get away with it, Policy doesn't apply to you people, and it should.

POLICY applies to us FAR more strictly than players. We can't do what we want, we can be easily overturned.

If I am having a bad day, I don't interact with players, period. I rarely have bad days though, I am an optomist and my glass is always 3/4's full.

>The only problems with GMs are that there are not enough 'sentinels' employed just to monitor GM activities.... but then again, even if there were, nobody would believe them...

Preach on. :-)

Khaladon
reg

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Originally posted by Pudgee:
One thing to keep in mind is "nearly" all those names you list right there, they bring tons of accounts in at once and that's why they always receive alterations.

Another thing to keep in mind is that those people are professional (heh) merchant hunters. They know everything about the merchants. They remember what areas a certain merchant likes to pick to set-up shop, they know the geography of the game real well so that they can get anywhere within a minute or two, they have a list of every merchant in the game, not to mention they know a few other tricks to the game as well.

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Preaching to the choir, my friend. I'm not interested in more alterations. I keep my clothing short and I've already tossed unique items and alterations in the locker. If I'm doing that, little reason for me to get more unless it's for someone else.

I've shared merchant information with the above. I've swapped merchant names, made agreements on a group's list of items for a festival, grabbed a few friends to run to an alterer with, yadda yadda. Am I the best at it? Hardly. I'm decent enough to grab a few a month.

Nowadays, unless a friend wants something done, I see no need to visit an alterer. I've "won", if you will. At least for a year or two, keeping up with fashions and all that. Till then, I just keep watching.

Peace out. reg

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You are human, as are we, yet you are given powers we are not, and you use them as anyone else would.

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Every sentient being on this planet is human. Well, not counting that Area 51 stuff. Amazingly though, there are groups of people that manage to become respected and known for their conduct. The US Marines, for example. Damn near every last one of them is proud to be who they are. And if there's a bad apple, they're held up all the more by the media because of the contrast.

Am I saying being a GM is the same as being a Marine? Don't even bother going there, because I know some of you were getting ready to respond with just that after reading the above.What I'm saying is that it's possible that some groups of people actually are 99% honest, hardworking individuals.

I think Zulkata posted that they had a 2000 person applicant pool for staff positions last year. Figure 1000 are some 14 year old kid who thinks GMing would be kewl. That still leaves quite a few people to pick from. If you had to pick, out of everyone you know, 5 people to be a GM, who would they be?

Remember, they will have powers that you do not know for certain exist. They will be able to find out things about your characters that you yourself never knew. They will be have input on sweeping design changes, that whether they ruin your character or not, they probably won't change. If they want to screw with you, they'll get caught and tossed out. 6 months after it starts, and after they've done their best to make your GS experience miserable. Hope you haven't annoyed them, or they're big enough to deal with it.

They won't be able to change policy. Not more than tiny fractions, and only then with 2-3 other GMs looking over their shoulder. They won't be able to help you hunt. Six years ago, maybe. Now they'll say 'hey bud' by dropping a griffin on your head. They won't be able to give you special items without risking the heave-ho and your items disappearing.

Oh, and they'll probably stop talking to you about damn near everything related to Gemstone besides idle conversation. "Merchant? No clue, nobody's told me anything." "Beats me when that bard's list is going to get done." "Yeah, I think they said something about when enchant will be back on the wizard boards." "Damn, that sure does suck what they did to you in the CL- Oh, I gotta go."

So. Five people. Everyone you know or know of. Who would it be?

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Again, nobody can trust anybody else in this game, when anybody can be...... say, you know what this is? It's the Matrix, plain and simple... That citizen next to you could be a GM agent... the flower-girl could be an agent, anything could be, and it's kind of ridiculous to have to play in fear because a GM is mad at you, and looking for any reason to dispose of you.

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Or some guy you banned last week with an account you didn't catch and wants to stop you from 'playing favorites' at your merchant event. Or the person you told to quit harassing some person, twit or not, who's IMing his friend to do it now. Or the baiter with the 'older brother' using a glass amulet and waiting for someone to attack his 'little friend'. Or someone who found this fun new game, and just wants to go out and kill an orc today. Or some weirdo girl who likes to post stuff on BBSs to stir the pot and see what comes up.

Never know who the woman with the red dress really is.

Peace out. reg

...if you think the entire staff is corrupt and the game is so horrible, why do you play?

I absolutely cannot fathom WHY, if you think everything is so terrible, some of you keep hanging around. Why keep all this negative energy in your life?

If it's not fun - why are you doing it? Seriously?

Ylena
(doesn't get it) reg

Is that better?

::roll eyes::

reg

I will enlighten you. Because we love the game. When never said we HATE Gemstone. Gemstone is great. Just the staff and management has gone down hill. Gemstone is worth fighting for.

Now since you can't stand people singing plain songs ingame. Apparently that ruins your day so much that you have to scream and call them names. Why don't you leave?

Omnirus sent me those logs of you screaming at Christin for not being more creative at ebons gate. A freaking level 13 Bard who is new to the profession and all you could do is scream at them and call them names. You didn't offer one ounce of help. She was pretty upset at about how rude you was.

WoW! I see instead of helping people you try to run them off. Way to go. Love that HS attitude. I lost all respect for you for that. People told me you changed for the worst Ylena. I was really disappointed when I saw those logs. Seems once you get into favor you think you are better then everyone else. Got news for you hun. Your not all THAT.

It's just amazing how you see people grow in the lands. Once they get into the HS crowd, they become the eletist snobs. I was shocked to say the least at your bahavior that day.

You owe Christin a apology Ylena. She did absolutely nothing to you. Didn't deserve for you to PMS on her for no reason.

You want to come on here and throw stones. I got a lot to throw back.

edge

reg

Given the rest of your response to me, obviously it's not just the staff that bugs you.

>>>Omnirus sent me those logs of you screaming at Christin for not being more creative at ebons gate. A freaking level 13 Bard who is new to the profession and all you could do is scream at them and call them names. You didn't offer one ounce of help. She was pretty upset at about how rude you was.

I didn't scream... but I'm not very proud of myself for the way I treated her, either. It was not the first time I'd run into her singing the same hand/land loresong over and over again... and frankly, it's one of my pet peeves, and I did get nuclear on her.

I've tried to apologize, but gotten nowhere. I don't blame her for being pissed off at me.. but it does bother me that you're getting logs and I'm getting no chance to make any kind of amends.

>>>WoW! I see instead of helping people you try to run them off. Way to go. Love that HS attitude. I lost all respect for you for that. People told me you changed for the worst Ylena. I was really disappointed when I saw those logs. Seems once you get into favor you think you are better then everyone else. Got news for you hun. Your not all THAT.

Never said I was all that. I just said I can't stand repetitive and uncreative loresongs... and the hand/land rhyme has been a sore point in the bardic profession for a long, long time.

>>>It's just amazing how you see people grow in the lands. Once they get into the HS crowd, they become the eletist snobs. I was shocked to say the least at your bahavior that day.

I'm not in the HS crowd, but there are days when I am an elitist snob, I suppose. That was one of them. I'm sure you aren't going to see the logs of when I'm nice to someone, etc...but whatever.

>>>You owe Christin a apology Ylena. She did absolutely nothing to you. Didn't deserve for you to PMS on her for no reason.

I agree. She didn't deserve the brunt of a lot of pent-up frustration and wrath. I've tried to apologize and gotten nowhere.

>>>You want to come on here and throw stones. I got a lot to throw back.

My question was about the staff, not about me.. but if you want to pillory me, go right ahead. I'm not guaranteeing I'll be around to read it, though. These board is turning into the same negative stuff that everything else is... and I don't need to wallow in it with you.
reg

There are some really positive and fun folders here as well....Deshaeri's Gemstone Gems, and Roleplaying, Aerinne's Alterations, the Relationship Folder (if I ever answer the letters!), all the folders about the towns...

Anyway, it's not all bad.

Summer

[This message has been edited by Summerlyn (edited 11-21-2001).] reg

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Originally posted by Rhain:

Back when I *was* playing, Krylan and Khaladon were the biggest offenders of keeping their PCs online while thier GM was logged on.

Is that better?

::roll eyes::

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Not really. Khaladon made GM on or about March 22, 2001. reg

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It's interesting to me that you can't answer my question without turning it into a personal issue. If you wonder why these boards are losing credibility, you might start with how the moderators interact with folks.

Elizabeth
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Everything in your argument was great until that.

Losing credibility? I highly doubt that Ylena.

Please don't come to our boards and tell us that we are losing credibility. A GM started a topic in one of our folders. Two GM's post here on a regular basis. We are coming to the 10k mark in posts. I matched us up with the unofficial boards at another game that's been around for 3 years and they are around 2000 posts behind us. These boards have done extremely well and there's several different places on here that you will find absolutely no flaming or personal attacks on anyone.

I for one am in favor of repremanding those that use these boards as a funnel for attacking people that they've always had a disdain for; especially moderators.

In the past when I saw a moderator use these boards as a platform just to edit/delete/flame during posts it angered me quite a bit.

As for the post. I will not _always_ hate you. And no...I don't have logs of you being nice. However, I have known you for a long time, as well as Lurch. I also know that you can and have been nice to everyone. However, it seems that somehow several people have fallen into the category of not accepting any of the new-breed that have come to GS. You all just don't wanna be nice to anyone and give them a chance. This is one of the reasons, in my opinion, that GS is falling apart at the seals. That and the lack of GM integrity.

That's my opinion.

reg

Khaladon has been on staff a LOT longer than that.

BUT WHO CARES, I was trying to get a point across and I hope I did.

Geez.

reg

You and I both know not everything smells clean at Simuland.

Just as I remember you commiting many suicides when you played a ranger. You were upset then and were quite often thinking of leaving.

Some people work through things by expressing themselves in one way or another. I think this forum has obviously brought to the forefront a lot of information. Perhaps this tool can help all parties involved.

Information is good. I have noticed that this board almost gets a faster response by GM and staff then their own official boards.

Ask yourself this question. Why would most of the posts that are responded to here by staff that would be quickly deleted on the official boards even gain enough merit to facilitate a response?

I like the freeform exchange of information here and I think others do also. Buckwheet and Kranar allow a lot of leeway in posting here. Some people are not the masters of political correctness. Some may not keep their cool. A whole wide spectrum of people play this game and that is a neat feature.

I know I will say I know some staff that have worked and still work at Simutronics that are the nicest people you would ever want to meet. There are average people too. They are real people. I think the people here just want them to act like that and treat others the same.

Hiway reg

Ylena, I've always seen you as a positive force in Elanthia, even though our characters have rarely/never interacted. I hope you do continue to post here, because positive posters help to give balance to the arguments and ideas presented. Despite my years in Gemstone, I've never heard the disdain for hand/land because I've never played a bard for long enough to get to know many other bards.

If you've made the effort to apologize, and it hasn't been accepted, then it's time to move on, lesson learned. Goodness knows, we've all had lapses in judgement on the very rare occasions...

Aerienne reg

Now i in no way agree with Ylena's attitude, if any, and i didn't even totally read the post before i replied to this, but i'm an EMPATH, not EVEN a bard, and let me tell you, when i see the hand/land or hold/told loresinging, i can't help but become irritated... Kind of when people yell 'Need healed please!'... Can -someone- explain that to me?... Need <present tense> healed <past tense> please! <or even better, they say 'plz' instead>

But, being Urgoyle, if i even suggested maybe the bard consider changing his or her loresinging, i'd be subsequently locked out and banned for disruptive behavior.

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Answer: We all do.

I will NOT give up on something I have invested 6 going on 7 years into.

I will NOT give up on the friendships I have made.

I will NOT stand around when something is wrong and no nothing.

If you want to raise your kids that way. That is your choice. Don't even try and tell me what to do.

IF you do NOT want to hear complaints. Like everyone said. Look in another folder.

Last time I knew. This was Gemstone Concerns. Not the Happy on crack folder.

I always hated. Do as I say, not as I do.

I will let Christin to know you said your sorry.

On another note. I have never said anything bad about you until this. But you did treat one of the friends very badly and I will always stand up and protect my friends. Like when the site was put up. Summir was on it. I told everyone not to tell her. Only someone that wasn't a true friend would have told you about those pics. Thank god the site was taken down before she could have seen them.

edge

reg

Now git yer butts over to a different topic if you wanna criticize each other back and forth like a bunch of "I know you are but what am I?" slackers!

As for the topic, just so's I don't come across looking like a hypocrite:

My favorite GM of all time was Issigri, my second favorite was Wolv. Mhorigan was fun too the few times I interacted with him, as was Stump whenever he came to visit in the treehouse.

Zulkata was da bomb, though I could do without his emoticons. Hallowell was a total goofball, lots of fun. Pandemon was a sick puppy and fun in a twisted sort of way (always seemed to show up dead whenever I assisted), and Krilcan was by far the most personable GM I'd ever interacted with.

I won't go into my least liked, because it's just sour grapes.

R

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Originally posted by Desharei:
Okay boys and girls, we're WAY off topic. : oints up to the topic, which reads, "GMs".::

Now git yer butts over to a different topic if you wanna criticize each other back and forth like a bunch of "I know you are but what am I?" slackers!

As for the topic, just so's I don't come across looking like a hypocrite:

My favorite GM of all time was Issigri, my second favorite was Wolv. Mhorigan was fun too the few times I interacted with him, as was Stump whenever he came to visit in the treehouse.

Zulkata was da bomb, though I could do without his emoticons. Hallowell was a total goofball, lots of fun. Pandemon was a sick puppy and fun in a twisted sort of way (always seemed to show up dead whenever I assisted), and Krilcan was by far the most personable GM I'd ever interacted with.

I won't go into my least liked, because it's just sour grapes.

R

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Pandaemon was awesome because he had the etherial claidhmore and came out and swung at about a 10000 AS

Always thought that that was gerat. reg

You see it all the time now in logs.

Probably was still on my record...

Anyway. Your post brought back some neat memories.

Hiway reg

Wolv coordinated the "Great Treehouse Deed Purchase Fiasco" and although too many players disrupted the entire event with secondary characters who attended just so their primary characters on Teras could see and respond to what was going on the next day, the whole planning of it was a heap of fun! Kudos too to Haaka, for being the "real estate broker."

Zulkata - he used to always wink at my first character Jasminpetal and show her his turban with that enormous ruby of fortune that shows you your fate (or whatever it was called).

Krilcan has spent a few times lecturing me in the consultation lounge, and keeping me from getting locked out with his patience and understanding whenever something happened in the game to make me wanna implode. He also lectured me when I actually did finally lose it and implode, though he couldn't really recommend a lockout because I had reported my intent twice and gave the players ample warning and opportunity to join my group so they wouldn't get hurt. I just wanted to get rid of all the trash they refused to pick up, dangit!

I think it was Alkyrie who ran the Honey Amberdale and the Ghostly Wolf event, or it might have been Pandaemon. Whichever it was, I was very sad that it was never completed, and I believe the GM running it stopped GMing before it ended.

reg

Yes, I have. So I can live with that point. Was a sage from August 2000 to March 2001.

Funny thing though, I couldn't be Sage and my PC though at the same time.

<ponders>

Khaladon reg

Wonder how much time I've logged in the 8 days I've been in plat.. probably pretty scary.

Naramith reg

There are some characters that are required to be in the Lands a certain amount of time each month. reg

Khaladon, shut it...

geezus.

Deshar..Roberta,

'Kril-cata'(tm) was my fave too, he's such a lovey bunny.

AS much as I hated Kennesaw, I loved his work.

and ,of course, I love how Aephir spoke his mind.

reg

Scripter just tried to kick a lesser fake mummy!

Probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen in GS. reg

Also, isn't it written somewhere in policy that if you see a violation, and don't report it or something, that you can be subjected to the same punishment as them? reg

You will also get little notes added to your record as causing the GM's work which in itself is a strike against you.

If you want to stay in the game and not risk things with staff just shut up, walk away, and let the snerts walk all over your characters. Otherwise, you will create too many problems.

Hiway reg