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Klaive has got to go.

I was complaining to my friend about this earlier and they said that this was a good place to post things that would not be allowed on the other message boards.

Yesterday while I was sitting in the park AFK, Klaive came in. He started talking to me and because I was AFK I could not say anything. Then he spelled me up and grabbed me. He was being very silly and talking about the beauty of zealia or some crap. And he drug me around pointing at things and explaining them. When I got back to my computer, I was in soulhaven and he was pointing at a donkey in a zoo and telling me that sometimes the donkey talked to him.

I did not know what to do, so since I'm level 30 and he looked like he was in his 70s I decided to attack him. I swung at him and missed and then he gasped and webbed me. After that he just tickled me and acted like I was a child. That pissed me off alot and I reported and was told to "get over it". That tells me that the dumb gms love Klaive too, even when he breaks the rules. So then Klaive says 'Do you want me to take you back to Landing?' and he smiled at me like I was a child again and I was so mad that I started cussing at him and the dumb gms put soap in my mouth and I could not talk. Then the webs fell off and I ran away and I got lost and an orger or something hit me and I had lost my spells and I was stunned so I had to log off.

I just wanted to be left alone so I could hunt. Klaive cost me at least 2000 exp and he has got to be stopped.

Who agrees with me!? reg

I did not know what to do, so since I'm level 30 and he looked like he was in his 70s I decided to attack him.


1. Report immediately that your character had been kidnapped off to a place you could not return from without your consent.

1a. Ignore the idiot and leave the room.

2. Assist so a host could get the full jist of your situation.

3. Get on the amunet and request some help walking back to whereever you came from.

reg

And try not to be AFK in a public area, if at all. I've had enough happen to me while I was AFK in a public area.

Johnny reg

If I didn't know better, I'd say that Klaive is trying to pump himself up here..


I *HIGHLY* doubt a GM would say 'get over it' unless of course you had the pleasure of meeting Andraste...

To be honest, I think you should get over it, but for SOME reason, I don't think this really happened.

Call me psychic...

reg

quote:
Originally posted by Rhain:

If I didn't know better, I'd say that Klaive is trying to pump himself up here..


I *HIGHLY* doubt a GM would say 'get over it' unless of course you had the pleasure of meeting Andraste...

To be honest, I think you should get over it, but for SOME reason, I don't think this really happened.

Call me psychic...


It is more than psychic it is obvious.

No way would that stunt ever hold up.

I never understood though why people left their characters online for long periods of time though when afk. I just logged off. The game's mechanics are silly at best to require such long periods of time to abosrb experience. This is the only game I have ever seen that. That in no way shape or form is supporting what Klaive's player did.

I always saw Klaive's player as doing things in "rp" to annoy other people, not to portray a role.

Hiway

reg

I buy that Rhain. Heh, anything to get your name spread around a bit more?

Sonic reg

Can't one of the mods just check the IP? Isn't that what its for?

In any case, I also highly doubt this event occured.

-Revalos reg

Gotta agree with you, Rhainy. There's no way I'll believe that a GM told somebody to simply "get over it". I believe this particular soup was cooked just a bit too long. It stinks to high heaven!

Rysh reg

Personally I see nothing with what he did. I absoluately hate sleepers in public first anyway, someone mentioned...


"GO REPORT CAUSE HE TOOK YOU SOMEWHERE WITHout YOUR CONSENT"

In my opinion, this is one of the major problems with the game. The philosophy of using report when you can't RP or are too lazy to RP out the situation. If your gonna be away from your computer, log out/hide/inviz etc.


Of course if it was me who grabbed ya and took ya for a stroll, I'd be locked out, but thats a different topic.

Mike

Zanagan/Zarosa

reg

Sorry to say this everyone. But Klaive is the perfect example of what Simutronics wants in a GM.

He could care less for anyones opinion or the players. It's all about what he wants.

edge reg

Let's assume for a moment the story is actually true.

Okay, fine, all this really happened. How could it possibly have happened? Answer: the player wasn't paying attention.

You are responsible for things that happen to your character. You could have typed GROUP CLOSE and sat down. You chose not to do that, and you chose not to do it, in a public area.

You snooze, you lose.

R
reg

While in no way do I condone Klaives actions, I read something like this...

"Then the webs fell off and I ran away and I got lost and an orger or something hit me and I had lost my spells and I was stunned so I had to log off." Teen_Shan

I have no sympathy for you and you get what you deserve.
reg

quote:
Originally posted by Teen_Shan:
I was complaining to my friend about this earlier and they said that this was a good place to post things that would not be allowed on the other message boards.

Yesterday while I was sitting in the park AFK, Klaive came in. He started talking to me and because I was AFK I could not say anything.

<<This is a roleplaying game, the idea is to roleplay, not powerhunt, and if you must powerhunt, use the time you are 'defrying' to enhance your character>>

Then he spelled me up and grabbed me.

<<nice of him to think about your character>>

He was being very silly and talking about the beauty of zealia or some crap.

<<Zelia, actually, goddess of insanity and lunatics... definitely klaive material, i think anyway>>

And he drug me around pointing at things and explaining them.

<<realize, to the gaming environment, to a true roleplayer, you're sitting in the middle of a park, not speaking or saying anything, you appear basicly brain dead... or... retarded>>

When I got back to my computer, I was in soulhaven and he was pointing at a donkey in a zoo and telling me that sometimes the donkey talked to him.

<<Again, brilliant insanity, i used to 'pick my left nostril with my right index finger' because i've seen people sign recognition out loud (which when other people see it, looks like they acted it out), and my character was trying to learn the sign language>>

I did not know what to do, so since I'm level 30 and he looked like he was in his 70s I decided to attack him.

<<Perfect snertness on your part... Well, i think i can kill this guy, and i don't care to try and roleplay my AFKness with him, so i'll kill him! Yeah, that'll do it!>>

I swung at him and missed and then he gasped and webbed me.

<<And let me guess, if you killed him, you'd be cheering yourself on, and kick his dead body a hundred times>>

After that he just tickled me and acted like I was a child.

<<Accurate, on his part, you WERE acting like a child>>

That pissed me off alot and I reported and was told to "get over it".

<<Another perfect example of snertness.... if i can't kill someone, i can report them instead!.. What if he responded to your swinging at him, by vaporizing you, would you have prefered that?>>

That tells me that the dumb gms love Klaive too,

<<Or hate your stupidity>>

even when he breaks the rules.

<<Roleplaying is against the rules?>>

So then Klaive says 'Do you want me to take you back to Landing?'

<<That's a damn kind offer, he's showing you a little tour of his insane world, you attack him, and he decides he'd take you home... If i was a little dark elf sorceror, and someone i was showing my donkey friend attacked me, i'd probably run in fear>>

and he smiled at me like I was a child again and I was so mad that I started cussing at him and the dumb gms put soap in my mouth and I could not talk.

<<If you were anyone else, you'd be warned/locked out for vulgarity, they actually gave you a chance>>

Then the webs fell off and I ran away

<<that's smart, it's obvious he wasn't trying to kill you>>

and I got lost and an orger or something hit me and I had lost my spells

<<which klaive gave you, to keep this from happening>>

and I was stunned so I had to log off.

<<Great, another OOC logger... critter stuns you, you log off and run... I am _SO_ happy 'Enraged' creatures arrived just for you types>>

I just wanted to be left alone so I could hunt. Klaive cost me at least 2000 exp and he has got to be stopped.

<<Lovely... Rollplayers... the new breed of gemstoner... Hunthunthunt,fryfryfry,afkafkafk, lather, rinse, repeat>>

Who agrees with me!?
<<Obviously not me>>


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[This message has been edited by Urgoyle (edited 11-28-2001).] reg

I do that kinda thing alot... but I don't recall doing anything to that effect very recently.

Nothing I did was in violation of policy. If I did that to you, I asked your permission and took your silence as a yes.

You're obviously not a role-player. And I mourn for Elanthia. Your presence in this wonderful land of ours is a tragidy. Perhaps you could learn someday... I hope that this is true. Because we have enough damn anti-roleplaying snerts in the lands as it is... we don't need more.

If you refuse to be a part of the world, then stay out of my way.

Next time, I won't web you. I'll implode.

- The Klaive reg

Although I don't know the entire situation, someone not wanting to participate in a completely bogus "kidnapping" hardly seems like reluctance to roleplay on their part.

Personally Klaive, if I woke up to find myself in Solhaven with you babbling, I'd be a bit scared myself. And rather angry.

Just because someone is AFK and doesn't say "No" doesn't give you the right to drag them along on your escapades. True, a simple <group close> would have solved the situation, but that's not the issue at heart.

Edited for this comment:
Klaive, if you want them to "stay out of your way"... don't drag them along with you.

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-Emtel

[This message has been edited by Emtel (edited 11-28-2001).] reg

quote:
Nothing I did was in violation of policy. If I did that to you, I asked your permission and took your silence as a yes.

Hahah, yea you weren't in violation of policy, just ask Zanagan...

Sonic reg

Also, totally off-topic: It took about an hour and a half for me to get it, but I like the Teen Shan username.

If a Teen Shan Too shows up, I'm leaving. reg

quote:
Originally posted by Klaive:
I do that kinda thing alot... but I don't recall doing anything to that effect very recently.- The Klaive

Not to come down on you Klaive, but do you do that a lot to people in their 30's? I'll wager a million silvers that you don't give folks that are older than you those blessed tours.

I might consider it roleplaying if you did this to someone that was afk that could return and blast you out of your boots to show you what he/she thought of your tour. It's another thing entirely to play these games with someone who is powerless against you.

Murp (who was locked out for dragging someone that was AFK from town central to castle varunar) reg

<<You're obviously not a role-player. And I mourn for Elanthia. Your presence in this wonderful land of ours is a tragidy. >>


I wonder if I could hire Klaive to write for a website...

He gives me that George W. feel...


reg

quote:
Originally posted by Rhain:
I wonder if I could hire Klaive to write for a website...

He gives me that George W. feel...


Heh, and you want to hire him for WHAT reason? ::snickers::

Just kidding...

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-Emtel reg

George W is god, Klaive is not.

Sonic reg

If Teen Shan learned anything, I would hope he learned not sit around afk in public. If there had been an invasion would he complain about the unfairness of his death?

and oh yea... Klaive is a god..

*smooches*
Baliana reg

Hmm.. what's that George W. quote..

"I'm a man of many opinions, some I even disagree with"

::stares::

I do get a huge laugh over these role-playing remarks, tho. Keep em coming! reg

quote:
Originally posted by edge:
Sorry to say this everyone. But Klaive is the perfect example of what Simutronics wants in a GM.

He could care less for anyones opinion or the players. It's all about what he wants.

edge


Got a proposition for ya, Edge. Klaive makes GM, I give you 10 million silvers. Every year he doesn't make GM, you give me 1 million.

Since he's perfect GM material, you can't lose. Money where your mouth is. reg

quote:
Originally posted by Klaive:

Nothing I did was in violation of policy. If I did that to you, I asked your permission and took your silence as a yes.



heh ever ask for permission and receive the answer "yes", and take it as a "yes" and still get banned?
reg

quote:
Originally posted by Urgoyle:
[Edited to remove bold black text from entire message]

[This message has been edited by Urgoyle (edited 11-28-2001).]


<<This is a roleplaying game, the idea is to roleplay, not powerhunt, and if you must powerhunt, use the time you are 'defrying' to enhance your character>>


If people don't want to roleplay, and just like the hunting part of gemstone 3 i know a few free muds that offer just that. So go find one of those if you don't want to role play.
As far as my brother Klaive goes, yes he kidnaps, he does it to me all the time. What's to get mad at. Be glad someone even took notice of you to drag you around with them.

Klaive is a wonderful roll player, at times I think if it were not for him I would not even know who half my elanthia family was or even interact with them, because like you, they rather hunt then add to this game by roll playing...no names, don't wanna offend some family members.

So I say to any of you who find yourself in a strange place and Klaive standing next to you, be greatful he is roll playing and not truely insane,(debatable)i've seen implode...shivers...scary stuffs.
If a GM did tell you to "get over it" I give that gm a thumbs up. You really do need to get over it reg

Welcome new poster Esmee.

Hiway-whistles reg

quote:
Originally posted by Hiway:
Welcome new poster Esmee.

Hiway-whistles


Poster Esmee? ::Flails::

I guess you not know my brother Klaive all that well, he did not write my comments.
Klaive does not have to make up names so that he can get some support on his views. He has alot of family and alot of friends who share his views, granted at times i do not, like Voln!!! ::Screams::
Sorry, anyways the point is, my brother does not need even his family and friends to stand behind him to support him, he handles himself just fine, but of course we love to be there for him and do what we can to help him.
what was that quate again?...oh yeah.."get over it"

And I am highly insulted that you would even think such a thing because i am Esmee, or Essie to Juli, Smee to Klaive, Princess by birth and self proclaimed Huntress.


reg

quote:
Originally posted by Zanagodly:

heh ever ask for permission and receive the answer "yes", and take it as a "yes" and still get banned?

'Gemstone3 is a wide game, it is impossible for our databases to track every bit of text said or sent by any player'


Or, to cut that down... 'Yes'

[Edited to replace 'Simutronics' with 'Gemstone3' for proper quoting]

[This message has been edited by Urgoyle (edited 11-29-2001).] reg

quote:
Originally posted by Esmee:
<<This is a roleplaying game, the idea is to roleplay, not powerhunt, and if you must powerhunt, use the time you are 'defrying' to enhance your character>>


If people don't want to roleplay, and just like the hunting part of gemstone 3 i know a few free muds that offer just that. So go find one of those if you don't want to role play.
As far as my brother Klaive goes, yes he kidnaps, he does it to me all the time. What's to get mad at. Be glad someone even took notice of you to drag you around with them.

Klaive is a wonderful roll player, at times I think if it were not for him I would not even know who half my elanthia family was or even interact with them, because like you, they rather hunt then add to this game by roll playing...no names, don't wanna offend some family members.

So I say to any of you who find yourself in a strange place and Klaive standing next to you, be greatful he is roll playing and not truely insane,(debatable)i've seen implode...shivers...scary stuffs.
If a GM did tell you to "get over it" I give that gm a thumbs up. You really do need to get over it



Heh, she quotes a small part of my message, then talks to me like i'm the person who wrote the orriginal complaint... i hope that was a mistake.... just like how she refers to klaive as 'A wonderful roll player' in her second paragraph...

Edit, Esmee, Edit, it's your friend, because in this world of misinterpretation, i could think you were directing all your comments at me, and Klaive could see you calling him a 'roll player' as in a powerplayer, as in someone who has nothing better to do but powerhunt and stattrip and etc. etc. etc. etc.


-Urgoyle ''U' is for Understand' Stellerax reg

quote:
Originally posted by Urgoyle:

Heh, she quotes a small part of my message, then talks to me like i'm the person who wrote the orriginal complaint... i hope that was a mistake.... just like how she refers to klaive as 'A wonderful roll player' in her second paragraph...

Edit, Esmee, Edit, it's your friend, because in this world of misinterpretation, i could think you were directing all your comments at me, and Klaive could see you calling him a 'roll player' as in a powerplayer, as in someone who has nothing better to do but powerhunt and stattrip and etc. etc. etc. etc.


-Urgoyle ''U' is for Understand' Stellerax


my apollogies hun, wasn't meaning to make it look like i was directing my comments to you.
only liked what you said and was agreein with you.
And this is a roll playing game, i am not saying there is anything at all wrong with powerhunting, how else do you think some of us have gotten up in age, because all other times we are sitting around roll playing.
what i meant by powerhunting i meant really, only hunting with no roll playing.
And yes Klaive is a great roll player, there are alot of folks out there that a just as good or even better.
my comments were only meant to support Klaive as a roll player, even if it pisses off a few people. if he didn't annoy people he would be a boring, nice person.
So he is an annoying nice person..snickers..
Anyways i am sorry if you thought i was directing my comments at you. reg

I believe Urgoyle is commenting on your use of the phrase ROLL playing. The phrase is used to describe people who play the game for the numbers.

If you are trying to discuss ROLE playing, as in playing a role and NOT playing for the roll, then you might want to keep that in mind when you post.

R
reg

<chuckles>

Sorry, but I feel if you are sitting around, AFK, group open, not paying attention and you get drug off by someone...then it's yer own dang fault.

I say this even though it has happened to me. <laughs> I have to admit it is a surprise to come back to your monitor wondering how you got to Icemule. ( BTW, Klaive was NOT the person that drug me there)

Did I whine? Complain? Attack? Freak out? Nope. What I *did* do is type:

act slowly comes out of her mental catatonia and gazes in quiet wonder at her surroundings.

Then, I smiled at the Lord in question and said:

"Well, m'Lord, is it your habit to take off with napping young damsels and whisk them away to the wild, blue yonder?"

The Lord in question got a good laugh, showed me around a bit and then took me back to the Landing. I came out of it none the worst for wear.

What did I learn? I learned that if I was going to be AFK like that, to do it in the East River Tower, on the roof, group closed while playing my flute. Or some other, out-of-the-way place.

Was I angry, upset, what-have-you at the Lord in question? No. Why should I be? He intended me no harm. No harm came to me. I lost nothing and I got to see some of the shops in Icemule. Big deal. It's NOT like it took all that time I could have been hunting ( while I was AFK?). <chuckles>

No harm, no foul.

Xanathia CloudSinger
Bardess

P.S. BTW, I agree with Baliana. Klaive IS God. Now all we have to figure out is which ONE of Klaive is God. reg

Ah another new poster Xanathia.


Welcome to the player's corner. Good to have you.

Hiway reg

quote:
Originally posted by Desharei:
I believe Urgoyle is commenting on your use of the phrase ROLL playing. The phrase is used to describe people who play the game for the numbers.

If you are trying to discuss ROLE playing, as in playing a role and NOT playing for the roll, then you might want to keep that in mind when you post.

R


excuse me for the typo reg

That was rather humorous Zanagan, the whole yes thing.

Klaive in now way does silence mean yes. He does not have to respond to you in anyways if he chooses not to. If I was him I would have went berzerk about harrassment. You have no right doing that. Oh and your a big tough guy if you implode someone. I hope it makes you feel very warm inside.

Lord Deprav reg

Late reply:

The original poster was AFK in public. Not good. Klaive dragged him (her?) to Solhaven, which is also not good but a little funny. Anyway, you swung at Klaive, so it was consent to PvP (or CvC, I always get those two mixed) which gave him every right to web you. Then you went and got lost on your own accord, which is what got you killed, not Klaive.

[This message has been edited by Taernath (edited 11-30-2001).] reg

Heh, all I have to say is that the title of this folder made me laugh HARD.


.. too random!

~ Kaliopia reg

this post is based only on the orignal poster.

I think your over reacting you attacked him without a word when he didn't do anything to you. In fact he spelled you up to make sure you would live. I could care less about people being afk in public cause I used to do it all the time but if something like this happens it will teach you one simple thing, type group close duh.

I remember back in the day if you sleept on teras with yer group open they would drag you to pyros and night night time was for sure.

Anyways get over it seems to be some really great advice. reg

Teen Shan? Is this any relation to Baby Shan?

Heh, I love the way Klaive strikes up things, even something as small as this original post was. I like how little things here and there were worded so that somehow someone would respond to it. He knows each and every one of your weak spots.

AFK? Zealia or some crap? Donkey talk? Attacking older people? Reports? Klaive this and that over and over? Breaking rules? Cussing and soap? Fallen webs? Logged off?

Heh, that post was a work of art and it got the attention that he wanted.

- Pudgee

[This message has been edited by Pudgee (edited 12-03-2001).] reg

Well I know I'm Mr. 1 poster, but I was reading through the board and just had to put my 2 cents in on this. If the GM said "Get over it" I'll have to second that. GS III is first and foremost a RP game. If Klaive kidnapped you, What a great chance to RP with him. How ever you wished to do it, whether confused, mad, scared. But to ASSIST. Sheesh, we have way to many ASSIST's, some people just should not be playing this, if they can't handle interaction between characters, whether good or bad. I understand at some times it is needed, but not for most of the silly stuff that it is used for. I was messing with a older Empath once, and kept at it, finally he chased me down and killed me, did I ASSIST, NO!! It was all in the conflict, and him killing me was part of it, that's it. Sheesh, Klaive wouldn't have even put you in harms way, and if for some reason you would have died, he'd gotten you rezzed and gave you a deed. reg
I'm goin with pudgee here, teen shan is just like baby shan, who is klaive's 'little son' in the game... i think he's just trying to prove to all his 'gm friends' how silly we are, since we'll all leap at the drop of a pin to attack the GMs, and defend any player against them, even nonsensical stuff like this...

Funny how this poster above me pops up too, just to get the topic going again after it's been dormant for so long...

I agree, Klaive has got to go... but not from the game... reg

Quit feeding the trolls, Urgoyle. reg
quote:
Originally posted by Urgoyle:
I'm goin with pudgee here, teen shan is just like baby shan, who is klaive's 'little son' in the game... i think he's just trying to prove to all his 'gm friends' how silly we are, since we'll all leap at the drop of a pin to attack the GMs, and defend any player against them, even nonsensical stuff like this...

Funny how this poster above me pops up too, just to get the topic going again after it's been dormant for so long...

I agree, Klaive has got to go... but not from the game...



Is this topic still going on? Ugh. Drop it people, it's old. As for "Baby Shan" he wasn't my son. He was a giant cleric in GS named Latrinsorm who thought he was a baby shan. He left almost a year ago and now he's in MO. I considered that it may be him, but he doesn't type that poorly. ::shrugs::

And as for getting rid of me, "but not from the game", you can forget it. Give me half an excuse to do it and I'll curse you into last week, Trazier. And with things going for you the way they are... I don't think you want that.

Can we just drop this topic please? Perhaps a moderator could put a lock on it or something? I didn't mind reading a topic about me at first, but it's tired now. Let it die.

- The Klaive reg

Pointless topic now reg