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Conspiracy Theory

Reading over many many posts with a similar flavor and theme. I feel compelled to point out what I have noticed. I would just flat out ask why, but the answer is most likely we are human, some of us better than others.

So many are so quick to jump on the conspiracy theory someone is out to get them, big brother is watching band wagon. This is in regard to Simu of course, because to address people who are like that about things in their everyday life.. Well, that is a whole other subject.

Well, no offense intended, but heck I have been told I'm a straight up witch (wait no they said something else I think) so should be no surprise I should ask this. Anywho what makes you think you are so damn important? It seems like most are irresponsible and unwilling to deal with circumstances of their actions, when something doesn't go their way, or something good happens to another it is all favoritism and conspiracy.

This is so tired. I would be remiss if I didn't point out the simple fact that to have a faction after you or even an individual after you, and to make it worth their time. You need to be important or know something important, or have something important. I doubt this is the case in most cases.

It seems to me that self-importance has run rampant, as well as the need to place blame on others. Reminds me of a child who has been grounded by their parents. Then whining about how their parents hate them and everything is sooo unfair. In that situation often one grows up and has the luxury of looking back on their childhood and reliving the situation through an adults eyes only to finally understand where they were coming from.

All I ask is that you think about.

D
reg

quote:
Originally posted by Zadya:
Reading over many many posts with a similar flavor and theme. I feel compelled to point out what I have noticed. I would just flat out ask why, but the answer is most likely we are human, some of us better than others.

So many are so quick to jump on the conspiracy theory someone is out to get them, big brother is watching band wagon. This is in regard to Simu of course, because to address people who are like that about things in their everyday life.. Well, that is a whole other subject.

Well, no offense intended, but heck I have been told I'm a straight up witch (wait no they said something else I think) so should be no surprise I should ask this. Anywho what makes you think you are so damn important? It seems like most are irresponsible and unwilling to deal with circumstances of their actions, when something doesn't go their way, or something good happens to another it is all favoritism and conspiracy.

This is so tired. I would be remiss if I didn't point out the simple fact that to have a faction after you or even an individual after you, and to make it worth their time. You need to be important or know something important, or have something important. I doubt this is the case in most cases.

It seems to me that self-importance has run rampant, as well as the need to place blame on others. Reminds me of a child who has been grounded by their parents. Then whining about how their parents hate them and everything is sooo unfair. In that situation often one grows up and has the luxury of looking back on their childhood and reliving the situation through an adults eyes only to finally understand where they were coming from.

All I ask is that you think about.

D


I couldn't agree more. Believing yourself to be the target of a conspiracy organized by your peers is arrogance... but by those above you? I think not.

A conspiracy isn't needed to smash any one of you into the dust. A single GM could do it with their pinky finger if they felt like it. But they don't... why? Because Simutronics watches them.

GMs aren't -allowed- to be crooked anymore. Sure, they may occasionally rig spinners. But usually, they don't. That's about as bad as it gets.

If you think someone's out to get you, you should really ask yourself why. If you violated policy, yeah the GMs are out to get you. That's their job.

Just like if you murdered someone, the cops are out to get you. Duh.

It doesn't *matter* what you think is right or wrong. What matters is what policy says and how the particular GM on your case chooses to interperate that.

If you didn't get clear OOC consent or a first attack with someone, you can be warned or locked out if you attack them. A character saying, "Do your worst." isn't the same as a player whispering, "I agree to engage in CvC combat with you."

The only advice I can give you is to read over policy CAREFULLY. Know well what you can and cannot do. Be aware of the grey areas and try to stay away from them.

That's what I do... and as much as I am hated in the lands and on the boards... my record is flawless and squeaky clean.

You gotta know how to play the policy game people... the rules are right there infront of you. If you choose not to learn them, you have no right to complain when you lose.

- The Klaive reg

~D

Give me a break.

<<Reminds me of a child who has been grounded by their parents. Then whining about how their parents hate them and everything is sooo unfair. In that situation often one grows up and has the luxury of looking back on their childhood and reliving the situation through an adults eyes only to finally understand where they were coming from.>>

If I hear the theory of comparing Simutronics to the paying customers as Parents to children one more time, I will lose it.


We pay. They do their job. There is corruption within the staff/company, that's already known. "One bad apple..yadda yadda" To believe that you are caught up in that is not so far fetched, and there is nothing wrong with posting about how you feel on these boards.

I suppose we should ask what makes you so damn important that nothing seems to happen to you?


Have a great day,


reg

Do you put people in red you hate? Do you then go out of your way to make trouble for those people in red?

Don't think GMs do the same thing?

Greatest thing the devil ever did. Was to make people believe he didn't exist.

Plus. Calling people childish is a childish act in itself.

Next you will be telling politians are all honest. I can't tell criminals and politicians apart myself.

Not all Simutronics employees are dishonest. But look at all the staff with illegal items and alters that was recently created. Off the top of my head. 10x heavy crit weighted katana. Can't be to many of those floating around.

Hey. Gotta get paid somehow I guess. Which leads me to believe. Pay McDonalds wages and you get McDonald standards.

What do you got to lose when you don't get paid? You can't take nothing from someone that you pay nothing to....lol

edge reg

I agree with ya edge, and im even guilty of doing it sometimes, best way to get someone is after they attack you have 12 of yer friends report them and say they're constantly being a nuisance, things like that arent uncommon especially at the boulder but doesnt sound like ya spend much time there Zadya
Moken
reg
quote:
Originally posted by Moken:
I agree with ya edge, and im even guilty of doing it sometimes, best way to get someone is after they attack you have 12 of yer friends report them and say they're constantly being a nuisance, things like that arent uncommon especially at the boulder but doesnt sound like ya spend much time there Zadya
Moken


Anyone who hangs out at the boulder is INVITING the worst that GemStone III has to offer. A direct quote from the boulder...

>
Soandso says, "Let's duel, Boulderite."
>
Boulderite laughs!
>
Boulderite says, "I would rape u foo werd"
>

Umm... rape? u? foo? werd? Okay... Just the speech patterns are a testiment to their immaturity and terribly crude nature. These are the people that hang out in Private Room GemStone on AOL. They are obsessed with sex and adore being OOC.

I would *never* visit the boulder unless absolutely neccissary, and I doubt Zadya would either. No person that wishes to immerse themselves in GS and RP would...

The boulder is for testosterone-driven, sub-average intelligence, sex-crazed 13 year olds and those that enjoy hanging out with them. Period.

- The Klaive reg

Yeah! Seriously, who plays GS to have sex? That's messed. reg
Personally, I never had the intention of tryign to be important. I have done some things in gemstone that weren't right to do and paid a cost for them..warnings, and a legitimate ban. However, because of my actions in the past, things that I have done recently that were PERFECTLY FINE in terms of policy, I would still get punished for etc. That is where the problem is. I don't think there is some huge conspiracy going or something. But yes I have been treated unfairly in my most recent playing days simply due to a reputation, and I'm not the only one who has gone through this.

Mike

Zanagan/Zarosa reg

Klaive I hate to make you look like a hypocrite, but uhm... I remember when you weren't even titled. You were at the boulder all of the time. Always fighting with Silleck, or someone else. Back when ya was with Crimsana.

~Jaci reg

quote:
Originally posted by Jacintha:
Klaive I hate to make you look like a hypocrite, but uhm... I remember when you weren't even titled. You were at the boulder all of the time. Always fighting with Silleck, or someone else. Back when ya was with Crimsana.

~Jaci


You don't make me look like a hypocrite at all. I admit I used to duel at the boulder. It was back when people seemed to act more maturely... and you seldom heard the foul and irritating lingo you do today.

Maybe I just didn't see it or something... but it appears that these changes have happened in the past 2 years.

By the way... My Win/Loss record is still 251 wins and 0 losses. I know I only dueled those that I knew I could beat (anyone younger than 5 trains older than me.) and I used macros and a glass amulet... but you hafta admit, that's pretty impressive.

I wonder if there's an award for best dueling record? Doubt I'd win, but it'd be fun to see how I rank.

- The Klaive reg

Those on the boulder might argue that they are role playing char's that talk the way they do, I feel this is bunk. The point of good role playing is to become someone of the land you are playing in not bring all the bad habits and slang you have in RL with you to the game. If they want to beat the snot out of one another let them, I am just glad that the boulder acts like an idiot magnet, the more that stay there means fewer times I have to see that crap.

Conspiracy: People often use the world is out to get me as a cop out. Plan and simple human nature, pride will not let you be wrong, arrogance will not let you admit error. It happens, it just seems that those who voice such theories are the ones with more pride, arrogance, or trait that doesn't let them see both sides of the story.

It takes time for people to mature, some do it quickly some slower, when they do realize that it is possible for a story to have more than one side people tend to take a step back and look at it in it's whole. You can't label an age, like those 13 year old yada yada. Sure predominantly it is younger people who act this way but some of the most immature people I know are old enough to be my parents.

Don't do anything wrong, you won't get in trouble. If you do make a bad decision, understand that punishment can,will, and or should follow.

I made a stupid mistake that got me warned, but by sitting down and having an intelligent conversation with a GM I was able to show my side of the story. I understood that I was wrong but I felt the punishment did not suit the crime. The GM felt that it was an honest mistake and was kind enough to remove the warning.

Act how you want to be treated and live with the consequences.

Anticor Rifling, Giantman Wizard reg

I just wanted to quickly say here that the other day I was pulled for mechanics abuse. Something that requires lockout.

However I explained my situation and had an intelligent conversation with the GM who pulled me.

I was warned and not locked out.

There was no favoritism as nobody here on the boards knows my PC's and this PC is fairly new only level 5. There was no conspiracy to lock me out. And even though the account had warnings and lockouts in the past the GM felt it was a mistake and that a warning was all I needed.

Glad to see that type of behavior in the game.

Buckwheet reg

That's why I don't mention who my characters are in message boards anymore. I have no idea if some have figured it out here, and some keep responding to my posts in the official boards with my character name even though I didn't mention it <mutters>, but I *try* and keep my characters and my personal identity separate.

Not for fear of something from the boards being carried over to the game (it's been done and I stopped posting my name to my posts ever since) but because if something needs to be known about my character, ask her in the game.

I come here to talk about Gemstone as a game and the roleplayers as a whole. I don't want to nitpick people apart, which is why you'll probably never see me post a logged conflict with someone in the game because that's a character problem and nothing that needs to be thrown into an OOC medium to resolve.

As far as conspiracy is concerned, I think some are just paranoid. If you're one of those HMC, they tend to watch you more and are more critical about what you do on a daily basis, regardless of whether you're behaving at the time or not.

If you don't want to stick out from the crowd, don't start fires. reg

I think there is a REAL FINE LINE between "Conspiracy Theory" and "High Maintenance Customer"....


Actually, they are usually one in the same.

You done wrong, you get a record, you are now on "the list", you screw up again, even a little bit...You will eventually be banned.

That's a F A C T.

Not a theory.


reg

quote:
Originally posted by Rhain:
You done wrong, you get a record, you are now on "the list", you screw up again, even a little bit...You will eventually be banned.

That's a F A C T.

Not a theory.




That's what I was trying to say and may have messed up. Thanks for the clarification.

I have a friend that likes to "push the envelope" so to speak but he's an excellent roleplayer. He's getting SENDs or in the consultation lounge for every little thing the GM doesn't seem to like. It's seriously beginning to piss him off, and he's not even one of those that report people.

Of course when he asks them "who objects? who reported me?" they'll never tell, nor will they even say he was reported in the first place. reg

The problem with that is...

I think that some of the staff is out of control.

It's only a few you hear constant complaints about. I would think, that would raise a few red flags.

How many GMs in Gemstone? How many are complained about on a regular basis? When you got tons of people complaining about a few of the GMs that are being unfair. It's not a Conspiracy Theory. It's not because they ALL are High Maintenance Customers. Most likely it's because there is a problem there.

How hard is that to figure out?

edge

reg

quote:
Originally posted by CrystalTears:
I have a friend that likes to "push the envelope" so to speak but he's an excellent roleplayer. He's getting SENDs or in the consultation lounge for every little thing the GM doesn't seem to like. It's seriously beginning to piss him off, and he's not even one of those that report people.

What exactly do you mean by pushing the envelope?

reg

quote:
Originally posted by CrystalTears:
That's why I don't mention who my characters are in message boards anymore. I have no idea if some have figured it out here.

And thus, by hiding behind veils here, we let them win once more... Maybe i shouldn't have posted my character name, because i never thought they'd come looking here for more stuff to hate people for...


-Urgoyle... wondering when someone will be warned for disruptive behavior, for something they post here reg

quote:
Originally posted by Urgoyle:
And thus, by hiding behind veils here, we let them win once more... Maybe i shouldn't have posted my character name, because i never thought they'd come looking here for more stuff to hate people for...


-Urgoyle... wondering when someone will be warned for disruptive behavior, for something they post here


*******************************************

Urgoyle, this is an Official Warning for Disruptive Behavior.

Read POLICY carefully and you will see that posting negative comments on the Unofficial Message Boards is a violation of your Terms of Service Agreement.

A 90-day full account lockout is being requested for you at this time.

*******************************************

I'm sure you'll be seeing that any day now.

Why do you buy into this whole conspiracy theory everyone? The GMs can find out who your charcters are if they wish. One of my GM friends recently saw my little character in public and whispered, "New character Klaive? =)" to me.

I've never told anyone that it was me. They have no way of knowing. She knew just like that.

Posting your character name on the boards isn't going to do anything regarding the GMs. Only players. I swear you people are silly sometimes. If the GMs were out to get you, you'd be GONE. You have no power, they have it all. You cannot resist them, they are god to you as far as GS is concerned.

When you wake up and find your character deleted and your credit cards have been charged to their limits and you see a message written on your mirror in blood that says, "FeaR SiMuTRoNiCs!" THEN you can say they're out to get you... until then... shut up!

- The Klaive reg

quote:
Originally posted by Klaive:
Posting your character name on the boards isn't going to do anything regarding the GMs. Only players.

That's exactly who I was referring to when I said that I don't mention my characters in my posts anymore. As if I care if a GM wants to bother me. If a GM has nothing better to do than to cause ME problems, then he has issues and needs to be reported.

The PLAYERS bring little things I say into the game and it just really irritates me. My CHARACTER said nothing of the kind, but because *I* said it, they feel they can harass me about it. Thanks, but no thanks. reg

quote:
Originally posted by NoOneImportant:
What exactly do you mean by pushing the envelope?

Double entendres, making fun of people through roleplay who are disruptive (rather than the standard killing or reporting), little things like that. Things that make the GM wonder "What did he mean by that? Must be bad." and do a SEND or CL. That's all.

I've never seen him do anything that warrents any of that, but since he likes to take care of his own problems rather than running to the GM mothers, which they insist be the procedure, he gets handslaps for it. reg

<<mirror in blood that says, "FeaR SiMuTRoNiCs!" >>>


Reminds me of VegasCon 2001


reg

quote:
Originally posted by CrystalTears:
The PLAYERS bring little things I say into the game and it just really irritates me. My CHARACTER said nothing of the kind, but because *I* said it, they feel they can harass me about it. Thanks, but no thanks.


That's the main reason some of us wanted to be anonymous.
reg

quote:
Originally posted by NoOneImportant:

That's the main reason some of us wanted to be anonymous.

Ayep. I just didn't appreciate someone saying that people who don't state their real name and/or character names on their posts is hiding something. Untrue.

I don't trust people in general.. even moreso on the internet. I really don't want just anyone to have personal information about me.

What I do on this side of the monitor is MY business and mine alone. NO one needs to know anything about me. Even people that I talk to on a daily basis through IMs, whom I feel I can trust, still don't know where I live or know who all of my characters are.

You get info on a need to know basis, and as far as I'm concerned, no one in the Gemstone community needs to know anything. reg

<<That's the main reason some of us wanted to be anonymous>>


And the main reason some of us don't like our real name posted here either..


reg