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Second, I just made Khajiit last week and I hardly talk to other people, so I can't see how I would make enemies so quickly on this character. Even if I somehow PO'd someone you still don't have the right to drag me off and let me die.

The point I am trying to make here is that since I don't have any problems with anybody, I don't feel the need to close my group, who would come over and drag me away for no reason at all?

Before I go let me thank all the people that answered my questions in the Wizard folder, really appreciate it. reg

Regardless of whether you have made enemies or not, I suggest that you close your group so that way you don't have a reason to get upset if someone tries to take you away.

Some people, whether it's policy or not, do not like seeing people AFK in a public area for long periods of time. I'm sorry to say, there are bad people in the lands and handle things differently. Are they in the right? No, but technically speaking, you shouldn't be sitting around AFK either.

Who was at fault? I think both you and the dragger were at fault in this scenario, if what you say is true. Seems like you made an enemy now since you got him upset enough with your unresponsiveness to take you somewhere else. I suggest you be careful from this point on.

[This message has been edited by CrystalTears (edited 12-18-2001).] reg

[This message has been edited by Siefer (edited 12-18-2001).] reg

There's too many holes in this story. And next time if you want to watch TV, type.. Q U I T. reg

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Originally posted by CrystalTears:
How did you know that you died then? Maybe you were dragged there to be safe? And if you know that you died, then you had to have seen where you died at.

There's too many holes in this story. And next time if you want to watch TV, type.. Q U I T.

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When I logged back into GS I was dead in Voln Courtyard. Good thing I have the Death flag on, who the hell knows what else this person had planned.

And let the record show that I had 1 less deed.

[This message has been edited by Siefer (edited 12-18-2001).] reg

Anyway, I'm tending to agree with CrystalTears. You were AFK which isn't good, but if the dragger drug you to your death they're not any better, if not worse.

It seems strange though that someone would drag you from the garden niche for being AFK. That area is known for being a center of AFKness, and I'm wondering why you were the one who was chosen...

5 minutes afk? With SET DEATH on, that would mean you were probably killed within 2 or 3 minutes of leaving. Very strange. reg

It sucks, but that's the way it is.

Aerienne reg

Perhaps you should log your time in GS so you'll know what happens and who did what, rather than just complaining about the unfairness of it all...

Aerienne reg

Just chock it up to experience, keep your group closed and don't sleep in public places. reg

And just as you don't feel you should "have to" do anything, you also don't "have to" watch TV while your character is in the game.

While I wouldn't ever take a blatant OOC behavior (being AFK) and turn it into an IC reaction (causing your death), I have no - repeat - no - sympathy for you whatsoever. It's a roleplaying game. If you're not prepared to be responsive every moment that your character is in the game, it's your own headache if something happens.

R
reg

I shouldn't have to fear that my character is going to get abused while I leave the room, not while I'm in town at least. Especially when my new wizard hasn't done anything wrong to anyone. He didn't deserve to be dragged away like that. Just being AFK shouldn't make you a legitimate target, that's just not right.

And what the hell is rest mode for then? I don't expect anyone to sit there staring at a screen waiting for the mind bar to drain while not doing anything in-game.

I can't wait until my wizard can go to Teras so I don't have to put up with morons that think they are above the law. I bet $100 that the stupid tard that did this gets away with it. reg

Aerienne reg

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Originally posted by Seifer:
And what the hell is rest mode for then? I don't expect anyone to sit there staring at a screen waiting for the mind bar to drain while not doing anything in-game.

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Why not? I do it all the time. After a hunt while nothing's going on, I leave my FE window open and open another browser window on top of it. This way I can read the boards and keep track of my character at the same time.

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Originally posted by Siefer:
I can't wait until my wizard can go to Teras so I don't have to put up with morons that think they are above the law.

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Heh.. Hate to break this to you, but that's exactly what's going to happen to you once you reach Teras.

>>Chalk it up to experience. <<

Ditto. reg

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Originally posted by Siefer:
I can't wait until my wizard can go to Teras so I don't have to put up with morons that think they are above the law. I bet $100 that the stupid tard that did this gets away with it.

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Wow, hate to break this to you, but the people on Teras don't tolerate AFK even more than the landing.

If being AFK whenever you want is a behavior you want to continue to engage in, you should invest in a home and park yourself in it with the door locked so that no one can bother you.

Honestly, I really want to know what you wanted to see accomplished by posting this here, especially with an incomplete story of "I died and I *think* someone did it but I'm not sure because I had this incredible need to watch TV rather than watch my character." reg

You know, if you really have nothing to do in the game, and you just want your character to defry, and you refuse to close your group <maybe so when you die scripthunting, people can pick you right up without you responding... kinda how you got back to voln>, here's a piece of free effin' advice...

Go to some secluded place... in town, on some random street <and if you scream 'Oh my god! it's not a node! i won't learn quick enough!', yer gonna get a backhand across the 'net>, and hide there...

Unless someone comes searching every god-damn street in the game, then decides to find you, then points you out, then drags you around, you won't have anything to worry about... Sitting in a crowded area, out in the open, with yer thumb up yer ass is just asking for trouble..

The idea of gemstone, is that it takes time, so even you powerhunters <who are beyond hope, i think> can have a chance to develop a roleplay... You have no idea how many interesting nights at Helgas have been ruined by the participant(s) going 'well, time for me to hunt, my mind is empty'..

You know what? big F*ING deal!!! If you want a game where all you need to do to level up is powerhunt yourself stupid, go play a mud or something...

You kill a mob!
You earn 700 experience points!

Just what you desire!!!!

-'goyle... more then pissed at all these 'Well people should leave me alone when i'm AFK!' types... Let me spin that around.... 'YOU SHOULD LEAVE THE GAME WHEN YOU ARE AFK'

And your little comment about 'can't wait 'til i can get to teras'... You know, back in the day, Teras was the roleplaying community that put the ones in all other towns to shame... now it's just a fricken ghost town, people do nothing but hunt, sleep, and MA there... gee, this empath dies... wordlessly a cleric beams in, picks him up, and beams out... then a bard is singing at gems for that cleric later, the bard blows his hand off, the empath from before wordlessly beams in, heals him, and beams out...

It's a god damn society of displacer beasts, is what it is...

Silvery fog my ass (__|__).. well, actually, they are necessary, but if yer gonna multi account, do it properly, so that nobody can tell, there should be a test before you can get a seperate account, to make sure you can do it right..

[Made an edit to include that last rant about teras, that came to me, as i was thinking]
-Goyle

[This message has been edited by Urgoyle (edited 12-19-2001).] reg

Anticor Rifling, Giantman Wizard reg

It's not his fault for leaving his group open. I found that lots of people like to pick on the newbies of the lands.

I got logs of Dwu dragging off a newbie of mine in RR because he was meditating. Then he was tackling him in a sanct'd room for damage because he told Dwu to quit harassing him.

You can't justify these types of actions under no circumstances.

Sorry to say. It may be a pet peeve of most people. But you still can't justify it.

But you do have to chalk it up as learning experience. You now need to take actions to hide yourself while resting or this will happen again. Log all sessions from now on.

edge reg

Mr. TV, there are SO many reasons why you ended up dead in the courtyard. Unfortunately, you are not *sure* about any one of them, so rather than *assume* it was an act of murder by a fellow player, just realize that maybe you should stop sitting around AFK and log out until you're ready to attend your character the entire time in the lands.

Just for future reference, you will never get sympathy for admitting that you went AFK because you wanted to watch TV, regardless of what happened to your character in the process. Never. reg

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Originally posted by Taernath:
Heh.. Hate to break this to you, but that's exactly what's going to happen to you once you reach Teras.

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My rogue Siefer has been on Teras since he was 28. He is now 41. He doesn't bother anyone, no one bothers him. I tip and thank the healers, sit down, and go about my business and everyone is happy.

[This message has been edited by Siefer (edited 12-19-2001).] reg

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Originally posted by Urgoyle:
Another powerhunter bites the dust... 'Hey, i'll go hunt, then sit in this node, then defry, then do it all over again! Screw roleplaying, who wants to do that? I NEED DA POWAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!']

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Most of my GS friends were at school or work, so I've got nothing else to do but hunt. And I stay at the Garden Niche where I don't know anyone, so I don't expect to be disturbed.

There are only 6 people who know Khajiit is; Ayn, Zio, Jiire, Emislity, Ghalyon, and Kharhazz. These are my very best of friends and I would never expect them to pull something like this off.

I am 99.9% sure that a player dragged me out of town. I asked many people if there had been an invasion of some sort, and nobody had a clue what I was talking about. And no, I did not get disconnected while hunting. reg

Newsflash.

You are playing a ROLE PLAYING GAME.

Not a first person shooter.

There is NO REASON to sit and rest while watching TV in the other room.

Personally, I liken it to sitting in the middle of a road that a hundred or so people are walking on.

GET OUT OF THE ROAD OR YOU WILL BE TRAMPLED.

That is all.

reg

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Originally posted by Rhain:

Newsflash.

You are playing a ROLE PLAYING GAME.

Not a first person shooter.

There is NO REASON to sit and rest while watching TV in the other room.

Personally, I liken it to sitting in the middle of a road that a hundred or so people are walking on.

GET OUT OF THE ROAD OR YOU WILL BE TRAMPLED.

That is all.

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So, you're trying to tell me that after you hunt, you will sit in a place where you feel safe, a place where none of you friends are, and just stare at the screen waiting for the mind bar to drop.

You can't just go around dragging AFK people out of town and let them die. That's against policy. Nowhere in policy does it state that you can't be AFK while you rest. reg

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I got no dukes. reg

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Originally posted by Siefer:
I am 99.9% sure that a player dragged me out of town. I asked many people if there had been an invasion of some sort, and nobody had a clue what I was talking about. And no, I did not get disconnected while hunting.

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Stop with the assumations. You CAN'T be 99% sure about anything since you didn't see anything, and apparently neither did anyone else. Admit that you have NO idea what happened to you and let it go.

You don't know if there was A monster that showed up in town and a nice person dragged you to a safe place after it killed you.

You don't know if someone was experimenting with spells or traps and it went off killing everyone in the area and there weren't any clerics in town.

You don't know if you had a bleeder you forgot about and just died on the spot and someone took you somewhere else.

You have no proof, no documentation, not even a suspect. You have nothing to go on so just leave it at that and just assume something bad happened.. end of story.

Don't make it a habit of sitting in public AFK for a long period of time, close your group when you rest, and log your activities from now on.

If you feel that you don't "have" to do any of that to make sure you stay safe, then no one here "has" to feel sorry for you because you died. reg

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Originally posted by Fralcon:
He's got a point, afk resting isn't against policy, dragging someone out to die, I am pretty sure, is.

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I'm pretty sure that both are against policy, though only dragging sleepers to their deaths is bannable. I'd read through the policy, but as usual, I just don't feel like it.

reg

No, I'm trying to tell you that you are playing a role playing game. Where the POINT is to role play a character. Here's a thought, make new friends? Go on a quest? Log out? Go into hiding?

Whatever you do, don't sit in the middle of the road with a blank stare on your face, people will think you have died already anyway, and drag you out to feed the beasts...

Nothing irks me more than wading through vacant bodies at the Front Desk of the Inn.

reg

Exceptions: In general, if you are running a script or are in Rest Mode and are not gaining any =new= experience, skills, money, or an in-game advantage, it does not fall under this policy. Being AFK or in Rest Mode while absorbing experience you have already gained is not a violation of this policy. However, =any= activity that's deemed by staff to be disruptive or not in the best interest of the game or its players can be warned when discovered. (E.g., if you script moving in and out of a room a warning may be issued because it causes undue screen scroll, if you are gaining skills passively a warning may be issued based on your being unresponsive to the gaming environment, if your "Rest Mode" message is determined to be inappropriate a warning may be issued based on the message being Out of Character or disruptive.) reg

Maybe it's not in policy that you shouldn't stand out unresponsive in the park but it's still something you shouldn't do. Just like it's not against the law to use foul language in front of a priest or rabbi but you still shouldn't do it.

On a side note--think of all the energy you exerted to come to this website, type up your initial post, then your responses, so on and so forth. It would have taken much less to simply go to a table at an inn or somewhere private and go afk. It would have taken even LESS energy to find an empty room out in the open and HIDE.

Oh and another side note. Whoever did drag you off DID accomplish something. Next time you'll give going afk out in the open a second thought after this experience. reg

Apparently everyone who has replied to you has offered alternative views and ways to handle it in the future. You, however, aren't satisfied with this until everyone agrees that your version is the right one.

So here goes...

Aw, I'm sorry you were killed. How DARE anyone invade your AFK/resting time. That person should be hanged. We should have every GM investigate this right now and stomp that person's little heart out until you feel vindicated.

Feel better now? <sighs> reg

If you need to go away from the keyboard...protect your character by closing your group or many of the other suggestions people have given you. This is a roleplay game...but sometimes even the most avid just kinda wanna level up....(( I know all you die hards will deny it....but hey...I know better*wink*))

It was shitty what happened...and a little venting sometimes helps....but take the advice of those here...however nasty and sarcastic they got. They have some points....look past the superior attitude because frankly, in my experience, it attitudes like those expressed that spawn the draggers feeling the punishment is their's to deploy.

This person said it best and simply
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He's got a point, afk resting isn't against policy, dragging someone out to die, I am pretty sure, is.
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Sure somebody may annoy you by not doing anything at all...but does that really give anyone the right to mess with that character?

No it doesn't...I say ignore the afkers...it shouldn't be hard...they aren't doing anything to you.

ahhhh that felt good reg

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I got no dukes. reg

I just don't appreciate when someone comes here crying foul, other people offer reasons and conclusions and they are shunned for it because it's not coinciding with what they perceive to be the truth.

If you feel like you were slighted or treated unjustly, that's fine and I sympathize. But when people offer experience and resolutions and they are denied, it's hard to continue a rational conversation after that point.

Like I said once before, I'm not sure what you wanted to see accomplished posting this on these boards, but we tried to explain it to you through many perspectives. If you can't take the good comments with the bad, you'll make it harder on yourself to fit in, both on the boards and in the game.

[This message has been edited by CrystalTears (edited 12-19-2001).] reg

And I think that it's pretty obvious that people here tell it like it is from their viewpoint. Take it as you will.

Aerienne reg

Anyway, just goes to show that leaving for even a split second in the depths of the landing can be quite dangerous.

It also could have been someone you knew who was playing a trick on you, maybe someone who knew you had this other character? Sometimes it's fun to drag sleepy friends to the kobold village and watch them get slobbered on. Not that I aporve of this kind of behavior. <Cough>

Anyway, that's why you can close your group. I really hate real life examples, but it's sort of like leaving your car unlocked and hoping nothing gets stolen from it.

Speaker reg

<<interfering with the roleplaying environment in any way, shape, or form>>

You are interfering with my roleplaying by sitting there with a blank stare on your face in the middle of a busy intersection...If you trip me, I expect you to apologize, if you don't, I assume you to be rude, since a character of mine has a short temper, she will handle you as she should.

If you continue to act comatose, I will assume you are dead already and move you out of the way.

No one has "the right" to drag you off to be killed without your permission in Sunshineland, but we do have the right to roleplay with you...

reg

I don't mean to insult or anger those who disagree with me and I apologize if I have.

But everytime I have a problem the GM's never do anything for me. And whenever I do something they're so quick to throw me in a cell for 60 days, and I'm real tired of that so I keep to myself to avoid further conflict.

I remember a time when I lifted a mage rechargeable diamond off someone real old when I was level 5 or so, and I got locked out for the entire summer. Meanwhile the guy killed me at least 3 times and they didn't even warn him. Heh, I really pissed him off when I sold his stupid 5 million silver gem to the gemshop for 7000 coins. Then he killed me again and stole it all ::laugh::

Alright, I'm done ranting, group will be closed from now on but it's just one of those times where big bad old guy kills Siefer and gets away with it. reg

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Originally posted by Siefer:
Roleplay nice or don't roleplay at all.

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That seems to be the direction Elanthia is going nowdays. reg

B) Your Name was similar to their friends name and the took you on accident, which has happened to me. As in their friends name is Draasion, and they type "Hold Draa" and drag me with them, out the gates and where ever. This is more than likely what happened, Another reason why you should close your group. These things happen and will continue to happen. This is by NO reason to lock out someone. It's your responsiblity to take care of your character while AFK, it's not like someone showed up n the park and blaintly attacked you for no reason while resting. I say get over it, and try typing "Group closed", it only takes a second to do, and it will avoid this kind of problem.

Draack reg

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Originally posted by Siefer:
[B] So, you're trying to tell me that after you hunt, you will sit in a place where you feel safe, a place where none of you friends are, and just stare at the screen waiting for the mind bar to drop.B]

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Most of us try this newfangled 'interaction' thing... It's when you manipulate your character to engage in conversation, or enrich the lives of others, it's really rewarding, you should try it sometime. reg

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Originally posted by Siefer:
Policy Page 18

Exceptions: In general, if you are running a script or are in Rest Mode and are not gaining any =new= experience, skills, money, or an in-game advantage, it does not fall under this policy. Being AFK or in Rest Mode while absorbing experience you have already gained is not a violation of this policy. However, =any= activity that's deemed by staff to be disruptive or not in the best interest of the game or its players can be warned when discovered. (E.g., if you script moving in and out of a room a warning may be issued because it causes undue screen scroll, if you are gaining skills passively a warning may be issued based on your being unresponsive to the gaming environment, if your "Rest Mode" message is determined to be inappropriate a warning may be issued based on the message being Out of Character or disruptive.)

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By the way, this is a direct copy of the scripting policy from dragonrealms, they just decided to apply it here.... the little line about 'passively gaining skills' <such as perception, if someone sneaks into/out of the room, or steals from you> it just doesn't apply here.... and what's to stop the GMs from saying you're gaining an in-game advantage from absorbing experience?

Or if, in the best interests of the game, your sitting there like a bump on a log isn't the best thing to ever happen... I'm sure you turn off your TV when you come to play this, if it's in the other room, so why not turn this off when you go there? it's so simple... reg

There's nothing wrong there. Nothing at all. Some people may not like that, but they don't make the rules. reg

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Originally posted by Siefer:
Being AFK or in Rest Mode while absorbing experience you have already gained is not a violation of this policy.

There's nothing wrong there. Nothing at all. Some people may not like that, but they don't make the rules.

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Guess what... nowhere in the scripting policy does it say that scripting AFK supercedes the basic fundamentals of the game, which is a ROLEPLAYING game. You wanna roleplay the town idiot and sit unresponsive in a public area...fine, but you'll likely be treated the same as the town idiot would.

>policy 2

Role-playing

GemStone III is a Role-playing Game. This means that players interact in the world playing the part of their characters in a medieval fantasy environment. This is known as "in character" (IC) and means that the player is acting out the part believably. The term "out of character" (OOC) means that the player is behaving inconsistently with their character's situation in the game.

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Does this game even have quests that you don't have to pay $30-50 to do? The only one I can think of is the one with that dome out in the broken lands, but I don't know a thing about it or if it even works anymore. I'd love to know about it though. reg

No offense, but what kinda pea brain would sell something worth 5 million on the market for 7k to the gemshop?

<<but it's just one of those times where big bad old guy kills Siefer and gets away with it.>>

Since you were apparently dragged off, who's to say it was big bad old guy? It could have been little wimp level 1 giantman ya know :P
reg

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Originally posted by Ellarze:
Hmmmm, feels no remorse over stealing / selling someone’s mage rechargeable gem, but is all up in arms over the fact that someone may have (hard to say without a log) dragged his character into danger and lost what amounts to a few hundred coin deed. Karma anyone?

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Imagine if the person he lifted the diamond from was the person that dragged him off and got him killed? Hee reg