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How do you feel about people who feel the need to point hiding people out? Do you feel it's necessary to point hiders out just because you feel you can or have the right?

I have a character who enjoys the shadows. It makes her feel safe because its a darker place. She hides no matter where she rests. So I had her to go the well and hide, just like she always does. A lord felt the need to point her out. I was very polite and asked why he did that. He asked why I needed to hide since it's not safer. I said because I like it. He says it will be a quick way to get me hurt. That confused me. I asked how this would hurt me, he dismissed me and said I obviously want to get hurt. I said he was the first to feel the need to point me out. He continued on saying he had the right to point out hiders whenever he wants. So I shrugged and went elsewhere.

Unless you say "I was robbed and I don't trust hiders" or "I was just stolen from so I'm a bit paranoid" I'll respect that because those are legitimate and ROLEPLAYED responses. But because you feel I shouldn't? I'm supposed to do it because YOU don't like it, end of story? Yeah right.

Well, let me know what you think. I know of people who report people that point out hiders for no reason at all and some people scold the pointers, others scold the hiders. I guess this goes along with the inconsistant policy and GMs topic.

Is hiding a right? Is pointing a right? Is neither a right and should be interacted character wise rather than a personal player decision? I'd love to know how some of you feel about this. reg

I feel that everyone has a right to hide, and I won't point hiders out if I see them.

I think a lot of the distrust stems from the old mechanics where a rogue could hide and safely pickpocket whoever walked by. This isn't the case anymore, as a rogue can steal just as well out in the open as they can hidden.

The other aspect of pointing is clearly OOC. It's just another way for an older character to enforce their will on someone else, which I believe is what was happening with you Crystal. I can almost guarantee he wouldn't point my main character out.

By the way, if you don't mind mentioning names, I'd love to hear who this was. I'm a former well-rester myself and I might know him. reg

I also think "pointing out hiders" is an OOC response to absolutely nothing.

Some people point because they can. Some people hide because they can. Neither of these cases constitutes roleplay, good or bad. They are simply exploiting their use of mechanics, and disrupting roleplay for everyone else.

If your character hides because she prefers the shadows, and your RP this in other aspects of your game time, then you are roleplaying and there's no issue.

If his character roleplays paranoia in other aspects of his game time, then it might be perfectly reasonable for him to do so in this case as well.

R
reg

To point her out just to point her out because the player doesn't like it bothers me. If he would have roleplayed it I would have agreed and gone elsewhere to hide. I won't do the standup "I'll hide here anyway in front of you to prove my point" because that will just stir more conflict and she'd rather not have it.

I said lord before because usually people my age or slightly older will rest at the well and know I'm in hiding and don't care or mind. This is the first one to be walking around, notice me hide and pointed me out then sat there when I've seen him really only sit at the well where the rope is.

Like I said, if he roleplayed a character reason for not liking it, that's fine and I'd listen and respect that. But to point out because you can? Sorry, doesn't fly with me.

I don't like mentioning names... but it starts with an H. That's all I'm saying. ::whistles:: reg

Forgive me if I don't agree with a policy to allow people to do whatever they want as players with their characters with mechanics. I did nothing to warrent getting pointed out. I hid, he searched and searched until he found me (which I found rather humorous considering my character is at least 43 trainings his junior) and pointed me out, I confronted him verbally, was dismissed rather rudely, and I walked away.

I can understand to continue hiding just to spite him is against policy. Doing anything repeatedly after being asked not to would and perhaps should be. But to walk into a room and search people out just to get people out of hiding is unnecessary.

If I can't hide well enough then I shouldn't do it? If I had hid and he saw me hiding, or did one search and found me that's one thing. But he made it a point to find me. Everyone, no matter how well your hiding is, can be found if you do enough searches. Very different aspects if you ask me.

Lovely how they have hiding against policy. ::rolls her eyes:: Of couse we need to focus more on people hiding because that's more important than being OOC being against policy. And personally, OOC should be doing something against what your character would do, not about speaking of RL things. People who do that should just get thrown into a roleplaying cell. ::grins:: reg

It was a beautiful day noted Lord Roblar, and nothing was going stop him from enjoying it to the fullest. So, with relaxation in mind, Roblar sheathed his sword and sought the solace and camaraderie one could only find at the old well down in Wehnimer’s town square.

It took Roblar only a moment to find a spot to his liking, and he soon found himself wrapped up in the banter and bragging that was common for this area. Yet despite the pleasant environment, Lord Roblar could not shake the feeling that something was amiss.

Troubled by this feeling Roblar took a quick scan of the area, but nothing showed awry. As a mater of fact, everything looked to be the model of perfection, but still the feeling lingered. After a few more glances it became apparent what was causing his anxiety, a lone figure lay perched in the shadows off to his right. “Rather odd, that one would guard the shadows on such a day, eh lads?” Roblar remarked to no one in particular. Then as if made of mist, the figure once again drifted from sight.

Perplexed, Roblar once again sought out the lone figure, and soon caught a glimpse of her from the corner of his eye. “Now she’s there,” he said nodding to the left, “quite a strange fellow we have here” he mused outwardly, but the figure was gone before the words had escaped his lips. And so it went, Roblar would find the shadowy figure, and the figure would just as quickly disappear. Roblar soon wondered why no one else thought this was odd…

Ok, I’ll admit that it was a bit wordy to make a point, but in my opinion, pointing out someone who is hiding means that you are calling attention to it(as shown by Roblar's off -hand comments), not actually pointing at a person. And calling attention to someone who is acting peculiar (such as hiding in a populated area for no apparent reason), seems perfectly appropriate and well within character. So why didn’t I say that and spare everyone the whole stupid story? How should I know, I can not explain half the stupid things I do.

But this is just my opinion, take it for what you will.
reg

ive always viewed pointing as "neener neener i see you" type of ordeal, physically pointing at someone.

'lood
nice story too...

reg

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I think hiding in a crowded place is silly, given the current mechanics. I think the more people there, the easier it should be for people to notice

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Actually, hiding in a crowded place is much easier.

'lood
reg