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My feelings on the subject are basically--"Hey, if you have the cash to spend, then whatever--it's your money" and while I still feel that way to an extent, I feel something should be done maybe to cut back or control it a bit...because most people don't have that kind of cash so it's hard to come across the nicer high end items, as they tend to circulate through those involved in that crowd. I would think if somehow sales could be cut down or controlled a bit, maybe it would balance out things a bit more--but then again there are other solutions as well...such as maybe the production of more items like that and thrown into boxes. I think it would be pretty nice if some youngun found in his/her box they got off a kobold had a cloak or whatever those things are that make you look like a humanoid shape.

What's your take?

[This message has been edited by Weedmage Princess (edited 04-20-2002).] reg

Of course, what I think doesn't mean squat. Simu has spoken
reg

People buy usually 3 to 5m at a shot. Just so they can equip themselves half way decent. This allows higher end items to sell for coins instead of trades only. Which gets them out of people lockers.

But when I see that people just starting out need to buy 3 to 5m just to equip themselves. There is something else wrong. The treasure system is really messed up. Plus, with no enchanting it has driven prices of items up.

FGB is 7m or more now. Plus, they made it necessary to have padded armor in the lands with all the CM attacks.

Now how else are you going to be able to get enough coins to buy items? Hunting? Not likely. I can make 2 to 3m a day hunting because I am 100 trains above the critters I cash hunt.

Plus, now nice items are not being put into the game except by corrupt GMs doing it for money.

So, by making it impossible to pad, enchant, weight or make decent loot without cash hunting lower hunting areas. They created this market. Now if things was easy to get. Think someone would pay 2 grand for a item they can get done possibly on their own? Nope.

More god auctions. More quality items being put into boxes. Duplicating the awesome items and making them break will destroy that market and make people tons happier in the lands.

But my theory is to many of the upper management makes cash this way. So if they did this they would destroy their extra income. But that would never happen, because they are honest...right?

edge reg

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Originally posted by edge:

So, by making it impossible to pad, enchant, weight or make decent loot without cash hunting lower hunting areas. They created this market. Now if things was easy to get. Think someone would pay 2 grand for a item they can get done possibly on their own? Nope.

More god auctions. More quality items being put into boxes. Duplicating the awesome items and making them break will destroy that market and make people tons happier in the lands.

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Exactly Edge--that's another issue I'd like to see Simu address. If they frown so much upon cash sales--why do they continue to allow it to happen? I understand and agree that they can not (or should not) BAN cash sales--if I had something I took the time and paid the money to acquire, what I do with it is my perogative. I would go as far as saying it's almost unconstitutional--HOWEVER--and this is a big however (hence all caps..hee) if they really wanted to regulate it, they could. Like you said, you basically need some kind of padding once you get to the upper levels with all the CM attacks, and your wizards aren't able to enchant anymore--it's all about supply and demand, and the silver you make hunting can barely by you a decent shield and weapon--let alone anything else..and if you underhunt in an attempt of cash hunting, you step on the toes of people who are trying to learn (I've heard countless complaints to the tune of "I hate those damn cash hunters") So what's the alternative? Like you said, rake up those silvers by buying them for rl cash....or offering a pretty penny to those who are selling what you need.

With this being such a big issue, (it's always been a huge issue and if Simu hasn't considered it one then, they sure as heck have to now with it making the pages of the New York Times) you'd think they'd devote more time to finding alternatives to cut down and balance things out--perhaps get enchanting back in the works, or revamp the treasure system--there are so many alternatives, and brilliant minds working at Simu that I am positive they could come up with plenty of other things to achieve some kind of balance...rather than spend their time coming up with new verbs or "Hot Summer Nights"--I agree those are nice as well but first things first and this is a priority above all those other things.

[This message has been edited by Weedmage Princess (edited 04-21-2002).] reg

Simu's never said they frowned upon it. The only ones that have said that are the lowly vocal GMs with many opinions. Any mention from Simu that makes it sound like they don't like it is just choice wording so as to not piss off those that don't like cash sales. We don't encourage it, but we don't get in the way of it. Hmm, what's that sound to you?

- Pudgee reg

Lets face it...Simu is a fairly medium sized fish in one hell of a big pond, and they'll take whatever they can get their hands on to turn a profit. If its cash sellers, so be it.

Personally, I don't think I'd ever sell something I had for cash...but that doesn't mean that if one day I had a car accident or something, that I wouldn't. I tend to side with those against cash sales for the sake of cash sales though. I never cash hunted and managed along pretty good, and that's without buying silvers or items, and only getting to Warfarers before the treasure system changed. I never saw an emerald or diamond until after.

So...would I be happy if somehow cash sales were banned? Yep. Would I quit if it isn't? Nope. I think I'm not the only one with that response...and that is why Simu doesn't do anything, no one really cares enough.

-Revalos reg