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I need some advice planning out a rogue i gots in mind, if ya knew sicarium kinda like his.

What i want is a rogue thats very heavily reduxed like sicarium had it at 18, an incredible ambusher and double in pick pockets.

I basically need advice on everything Dont know how redux works, what race to choose etcetera, any input would be great.

THanks
Rusval reguba
~In a perm ban but shouldnt be fer much longer. reg

Ask Scintillion.

Simple enough.

Buckwheet reg

Pretty sure it is impossible to have a 'heavily reduxed' rogue at 18. Its possible to receive redux that early.. but it wont be much. I think you might be able to get up to 20% redux or so perhaps.. but that wouldnt make a very good guy getting that much redux that early. Would be alot of singling in as many skills as you can to fit in more stuff.

I played around with a rogue skills, never leaving out 3x stalking, 2x perception, and 2x picking pockets. i think the most redux I got was around 18% at lvl 18... reg

sorry bout heavily reduxed dont understand the stuff just mean ta have it...smirk
but heres what i gonna try, my friend sicarium told me how he made his and is an ideal rogue in my mind


aura, disc, str, ref, int, log, dex, con, wis, char
90+ in aura/disc
80+ str, 75+ ref, try to get nothin below a 40
min roll of at LEAST 650
halfelf
2x cm, 2x armor, 2x edge, 2x ambush,2x hidin,1x phys, 1x shield,1x climb, 1x swim,2x pickpocket, IF 1x perception or mana share save for reg

Based on your training plan I can predict a lot of information about your character, but I will need to know what level you wish me to predict for.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

Lets say 50 cause i guarantee he gets that high, whistle reg
This is what I started you off with...

Name: Rusval Tester Race: Half-Elf Profession: Rogue
Gender: Male Age: 20 Expr: Unknown Level: 0
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 50 .... 0
Dexterity (DE): 60 .... 10
Discipline (DI): 90 .... 15
Logic (LO): 60 .... 5
Intelligence (IN): 70 .... 10
Strength (ST): 80 .... 15
Reflexes (RE): 90 .... 30
Charisma (CH): 40 .... 0
Wisdom (WI): 40 .... -5
Aura (AU): 90 .... 20
Mana: 0

Rusval (at level 0 ), your skill bonuses and ranks are.
Skill Bonus Rank
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Armor Use 10 2
Shield Use 5 1
Combat Maneuvers 10 2
Edged Weapons 10 2
Climbing 5 1
Swimming 5 1
Stalking & Hiding 10 2
Ambush 10 2
Physical Training 5 1
Picking Pockets 10 2

I will post your stats at 50 trainings in a second. reg

The stat calculator is still being worked on, so it will just assume you have the same stats. That will make like a +/-5 difference to your AS/DS.

Rusval (at level 50 ), your skill bonuses and ranks are.
Skill Bonus Rank
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Armor Use 202 102
Shield Use 151 51
Combat Maneuvers 202 102
Edged Weapons 202 102
Climbing 151 51
Swimming 151 51
Stalking & Hiding 202 102
Ambush 202 102
Physical Training 151 51
Picking Pockets 202 102

This is your attack strength info at level 50 with CoL signs up, self cast and with a 4x weapon. (in order from defensive stance to offensive stance)

Edged Weapons : 35 92 150 207 265 323

This is your defensive strength info self cast with signs up, 4x sword, 4x shield and 4x weapon. (in order from defensive to offensive stance)

473 406 339 273 206 140

This is your defensive strength info self cast with signs up, 4x sword, and a 4x shield against bolt attacks. (in order from defensive to offensive stance)

205 196 187 178 169 160

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

First of all, your training plan for skills is lacking what it could have.. I know of quite a few rogues who put in the same skills you just listed plus some.. My rogue is one of them. I could show you how i trained my rogue.. Wasnt primarily for redux. Or a rogue just like Scintillion. Who was mainly rolled for redux I think. Although in his later years he started getting spells and wished to get to 430. He also .5x in picking/disarming. Main thing I saw wrong with yer plan was 2x stalking, and MAYBE perception. You can fit in 3x stalking(Which I really recommend) and 1x-2x perception. Scint went 1x in perception cause he knew he was going to have 402.. He could see pretty much anyone as long as he was fully singled and had 402. My rogue trains 2x in perception mainly because I want to be fairly well at seeing older people hiding from me, as well as help in seeing traps. My rogue picks some.. Another way you could go, is if you feel 3x in stalking is too much.. and perception isnt something you think is needed. You could use the extra TPs to double in shield too.

Second thing, is to Kranar.. Howd you come by all the Defensive strengths for him at a certain lvl he hasnt reached. Do you have a program or something that calculates them? Or a formula? Could you share?
Im a bit lazy and never really thought to calculate defensive strengths for my guys.. But it seems interesting. reg

I programed last week a character trainer.

It works like this... you first start by entering a character profile, the profile includes name, race, gender, profession, spells known, stats and current skills.

Next think you do is enter a training plan, you can enter training ranges as well like:

From 0 to 10 I will train this way, from 11 to 50 I will train this way, and from 51 for life I will train this way.

The character profile is then saved. You can load the character profile and there are several options available. First option is to modify your level and recalculate, so you enter a new level you wish to calculate up to, say 150. The program will use the training plan you entered to re-evaluate your character at 150 trainings.

You can check AS or DS with a shield using various weapons, DFRedux, lockpicking skills, your skills, you info. Plenty of things. There is a prompt to add spells, like you can add wall of force by typing in "cast 150", or "cast 509" etc etc...

It's really a useful program to predict stat growth and other character features who want to see what they might look like at a certain level without having to recalculate it every time.

- Lord Kranar, human Archwizard reg

Race: Half-Elf Profession: Rogue Expr: 0
Gender: male Age: 35 Level: 0
Maximum Mana Points: 3 Health Points: 18
Hair: short, straight, light brown. Eyes: blue
Complexion: tanned
Your family has no fame at this time.

Statistic Bonus
Constitution (CO) : 49 ... 0
Dexterity (DE) : 67 ... 13
Discipline (DI) : 88 ... 14
Logic (LO) : 59 ... 4
Intelligence (IN) : 60 ... 5
Strength (ST) : 81 ... 15
Reflex (RE) : 89 ... 29
Charisma (CH) : 40 ... 0
Wisdom (WI) : 43 ... -3
Aura (AU) : 96 ... 23

Enter C to continue:

Bonus Skill Name (Training pts left: 0 phy 3 mnt)
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10 Armor Use
5 Shield Use
10 Combat Manuevers
10 Edged Weapons
5 Climbing
5 Swimming
10 Stalking & Hiding
10 Perception
10 Ambush
5 Physical Training
10 Picking Pockets
reg

<Duck> Only doubling in hiding? Hmm reg
didnt think it matters, does the triple affect redux that much? and with double wont i be able to hide from things atleast 5 trainins older than me? reg
Stalking and hiding doesnt help redux at all. Some could argue the more you train in stalking the less you get in train in skills that would increase your redux.. therefore it decreases yer redux to train in it... Anyhow. 1x in stalking you can barely hide at all in things your own trains. 2x in stalking aint that great, youll be able to hide 75% of the time or more in most things.. tripled you should be able to hide 90%-98% of the time in things even twice yer age. My lvl 12 rogue can hide very very well in things over twice his age because he is tripled. Of course... most critters no matter the lvl can sniff you out REAL easy no matter how good you are. I think that sucks. reg